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Under the Prohobition of alcohol in the early part of the 1900's, there were many people doing illegal things, and knowingly break the law. We can actually compare weed to this prohobition of alcohol. But, alcohol was eventually legalized and now it is a huge social problem just like any other illegal drug.

So are you admitting that marijuana is less of a social problem with its current illegal use and possession status? Why add more "social problems"? Just to be fair to dopers? In any event, "booze" is a regulated, legal product for sale and consumption.

We can also see how it is glamourized in a Simpson's eppisode about Homer being the Beer Baron.

But of course...Canada should base policy on this animated American sitcom.

People who drink alcohol legaly can get charged with some of the side effects that one can get with alcohol. Like drinking and driving is illegal. But people do it. So charge them for it. Let those criminal records show and tell as well. Drinking in public, giving alcohol to minors, ect ect ect....

Ummm...we already arrest and prosecute for such crimes....with a record.

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So are you admitting that marijuana is less of a social problem with its current illegal use and possession status? Why add more "social problems"? Just to be fair to dopers? In any event, "booze" is a regulated, legal product for sale and consumption.

Let me be more clearer here. When alcohol was illegal, there were social drawbacks. Even when it is legal, there are still drawbacks. Compare the illegality of weed to the time of prohobition. Legalizing alcohol got rid of some social problems. Or maybe social stigmatas. Legalizing pot will do just the same. It will solve some social problems. But not all. Legalizing booze did not solve all of the social problems that came with it. It just now allows a venue to actually help the people with the problem without a social stigmata attached to the person. But alcoholics are viewed in the same way a drug addict is. If you think I am wrong with this statement, then now it is up to you to show us the differences. it would be a hard case to make.

But of course...Canada should base policy on this animated American sitcom.

If it is good for the US, then it is good for us.

Ummm...we already arrest and prosecute for such crimes....with a record.

And that can carry over to the leagalization and regulation of pot. Driving drunk or high is 100% unacceptable.

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All we are going to do is put the poor in jail with these fines.

A 500.00 dollar fine is not going to put the poor in jail. You must know by now that we do not jail for non-payment of finds any more right? We will suspend driver licenses and garanshee wages, etc, even take tax returns. But we do not jail them. A court may make him do mandatory public service, if he is totally without means.

Alcohol is by far safer legal than not , by far!

This fine or that fine?

Ah I think you mean alcohol is by far more dangerous, and yes in some cases it is especially when it is abused. But for the most part it is not abused and when used this way it has no fines for it, because it is legal. If you abuse it then yes fines and criminal records and such do happen. So the answer is DO NOT ABUSE IT!

No its the wrong way to go and as such I can not continue to comment on these types of views.

You have your own views on this and by god I will fight for you to have them

Mandatory surprise drug testing of all school teachers by next Monday morning will have cannabis legalized pretty quickly.

Well, you and I will have to disagree on this, because I really do not believe that teachers are the big drug users you think thye are. Sure they will have some who regularly do so, but you are hinting at the majority, and I would have to see that first before accepting that at face value.

Its not the addicts on the street keeping demand up for drugs.

You mean to tell me that it is only the casual user that makes the dealers able to make the money they do? :blink: The addicts are just there to break even right? It just sounds ridiculous. Sure there may be a fairly large casual user population, but I would think the addicts would be where the money is. I could be wrong of course as if the casual user uses as much as you say then he would become the addict now would he not?

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