waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 ]I don't equate the two, but the term 'deniers' is out there and used because the holocaust is usually the first thing people think of when they here that term. It's optics and perception which is working. only those bent upon distortion and fabrication, on casting doubt and uncertainty... would even attempt the equate, as you do. Sorry, you'll need to reach for something other than the American Stinker rag clearly, Altaboy... I would think you'd prefer to offer your profound insight and knowledge on the debate subject... it's unfortunate you've found solace in the lazy man's drive-by Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 clearly, Altaboy... I would think you'd prefer to offer your profound insight and knowledge on the debate subject... it's unfortunate you've found solace in the lazy man's drive-by I don't debate with fanatics. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 I don't debate with fanatics. drive on by, Altaboy... drive on by Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 drive on by, Altaboy... drive on by A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Winston Churchill Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
scribblet Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 only those bent upon distortion and fabrication, on casting doubt and uncertainty... would even attempt the equate, as you do. Sorry, you'll need to reach for something other than the American Stinker rag clearly, Altaboy... I would think you'd prefer to offer your profound insight and knowledge on the debate subject... it's unfortunate you've found solace in the lazy man's drive-by What part of - I don't equate the two - didn't you get? It is the GW warmists who are using the label to smear and cast doubt on the skeptics. I don't know what the American Stinker rag means or is. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What part of - I don't equate the two - didn't you get? It is the GW warmists who are using the label to smear and cast doubt on the skeptics. I don't know what the American Stinker rag means or is. oh really Labelling people deniers is a good ploy, it's intent is to denigrate and to put them on a par with holocaust deniers. it was your above statement that turned the latest discussion to the equate you seem to suggest you don't actually make... clearly... your ends justified your means. The American Stinker rag is the one you quoted from. Altaboy - I defer to your famous quote cut&paste prowess... Winston Churchill, no less. I'm whipped, I'm done! Clearly, I acknowledge your ignorance and accept that It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 William G. McAdoo, US industrialist, lawyer, & politician (1863 – 1941) said: It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Thats a great quote although I think you fail to see the irony of you posting it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
bloodyminded Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What part of - I don't equate the two - didn't you get? It is the GW warmists who are using the label to smear and cast doubt on the skeptics. Ah. so the skeptics aren't calling cc proponents "liars," "greedy whores," "fraudsters," and so on. Nope, never. Insults are fine, evidently...so long as they move in the proper direction. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 William G. McAdoo, US industrialist, lawyer, & politician (1863 – 1941) said: It is impossible to defeat an ignorant man in argument. Thats a great quote although I think you fail to see the irony of you posting it. no irony, whatsoever... read it again, I most purposely, most pointedly, attached the ignorance where it belongs - I rightfully acknowledged you and attributed accordingly. If only you could get beyond quote mining and actually contribute to the debate based on the debate subject - what a concept! Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 no irony, whatsoever... read it again, I most purposely, most pointedly, attached the ignorance where it belongs - I rightfully acknowledged you and attributed accordingly. If only you could get beyond quote mining and actually contribute to the debate based on the debate subject - what a concept! What in the sentence " I don't debate with fanatics" do you not understand? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What in the sentence " I don't debate with fanatics" do you not understand? you rarely, if ever (?) have contributed anything to any of the numerous climate change related threads. You shouldn't be afraid to engage in meaningful discourse/debate, regardless where it originates. Labeling anyone you don't agree with a 'fanatic' is a non-starter... you shouldn't feel threatened by your apparent lack of knowledge and understanding related to AGW climate change. Quote
bloodyminded Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What in the sentence " I don't debate with fanatics" do you not understand? I would think that bothering to respond at all, the anorexic nature of this repeated response aside, constitutes some sort of discourse. What you are doing is saying, over and over, "I'm not talking to you"...an assertion contradicted by its very existence. Quote As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand. --Josh Billings
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 Ah. so the skeptics aren't calling cc proponents "liars," "greedy whores," "fraudsters," and so on. Nope, never. Insults are fine, evidently...so long as they move in the proper direction. deniers pride themselves in throwing the "alarmist" tag. Anyway, this latest bunch to jump in, clearly, would rather avoid anything to do with the actual topical discussion... concentrating instead on their combative fall-back that a lack of knowledge and understanding brings forward. They seem perplexed that anyone would dare to sink to their standards and call them on it - go figure! Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 you rarely, if ever (?) have contributed anything to any of the numerous climate change related threads. You shouldn't be afraid to engage in meaningful discourse/debate, regardless where it originates. Labeling anyone you don't agree with a 'fanatic' is a non-starter... you shouldn't feel threatened by your apparent lack of knowledge and understanding related to AGW climate change. What meaningful discourse do you actually believe by posting here on AGW you are contributing something to society? All that you are accomplishing on this forum is expanding your carbon foot print by running your computer, and every minute you spend responding to me your foot print is getting bigger and bigger, or are you buying offsets to make this forum conversation carbon neutral? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 I would think that bothering to respond at all, the anorexic nature of this repeated response aside, constitutes some sort of discourse. What you are doing is saying, over and over, "I'm not talking to you"...an assertion contradicted by its very existence. No it doesn't mean I will not talk to you it means I will not engage in meaningful debate on AGW with any fanatics as it will accomplish nothing. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
wyly Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 I don't debate with fanatics. correct, you don't how to debate... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
wyly Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What part of - I don't equate the two - didn't you get? It is the GW warmists who are using the label to smear and cast doubt on the skeptics. I don't know what the American Stinker rag means or is. it's not a smear when it's true... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 correct, you don't how to debate... Feeling a little left out and hurt are we? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
wyly Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 Ah. so the skeptics aren't calling cc proponents "liars," "greedy whores," "fraudsters," and so on. Nope, never. Insults are fine, evidently...so long as they move in the proper direction. you forgot, "tree huggers, eco nuts, libs, lefties, socialists, commies"... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Bonam Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 too bad so sad for being politically correct drama queen, I don't care...the analogy stands, illogical denial in face of overwhelming evidence = deniers... Sorry but you basically completely lost the argument. You can use the term "denier" all you want since that in itself just means someone who denies something, but you specifically brought up the Holocaust. Appealing to such atrocities to lend weight to your position on global warming is pure folly. It is precisely people like you why so many others refuse to believe in global warming. No matter the strength of the evidence for it, having some idea forced down their throats by a rabid fanatic makes people resist it all the harder. You do more harm to your "cause" than any "denier" ever could. Quote
waldo Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 What meaningful discourse do you actually believe by posting here on AGW you are contributing something to society? All that you are accomplishing on this forum is expanding your carbon foot print by running your computer, and every minute you spend responding to me your foot print is getting bigger and bigger, or are you buying offsets to make this forum conversation carbon neutral? oh snap! Let's all turn off our puters... - Google responds to the continued bizzaro-world lazy dishonest journalism from British, ahem... tabloid "journalist" Jonathan Leake: The Sunday Times clarified its article on the energy consumed by a Google search, accepting our calculation that a single search accounts for about 0.2g of carbon. That means a typical individual's Google use for an entire year would produce about the same amount of CO2 as just a single load of washing. Altaboy... just don't wash your clothes for a week - you'll be ok! Quote
Alta4ever Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 oh snap! Let's all turn off our puters... - Google responds to the continued bizzaro-world lazy dishonest journalism from British, ahem... tabloid "journalist" Jonathan Leake: Altaboy... just don't wash your clothes for a week - you'll be ok! I have no issues my energy consumption but then again I don't advocate like you. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
wyly Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 Sorry but you basically completely lost the argument. You can use the term "denier" all you want since that in itself just means someone who denies something, but you specifically brought up the Holocaust. Appealing to such atrocities to lend weight to your position on global warming is pure folly. the level of denierism is the same, irrational and illogical...the crimes of the humanity are no sacred cow that can't be mentioned in conversation... It is precisely people like you why so many others refuse to believe in global warming. No matter the strength of the evidence for it, having some idea forced down their throats by a rabid fanatic makes people resist it all the harder. You do more harm to your "cause" than any "denier" ever could.when people are acting illogical and stupid, driven merely by partisan politcs they need to have their noses rubbed into it...I've no worries offending those types as they will never change regardless of the evidence in front of them... Quote “Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives.”- John Stuart Mill
Bonam Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 when people are acting illogical and stupid, driven merely by partisan politcs Looked in the mirror lately? Quote
Wild Bill Posted February 24, 2010 Report Posted February 24, 2010 when people are acting illogical and stupid, driven merely by partisan politcs they need to have their noses rubbed into it...I've no worries offending those types as they will never change regardless of the evidence in front of them... Lord, what did we do before we had you to save us all? Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.