Stockwell Day

[madmax]

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day should back off because a U.S. review determined Arar should remain on the watch list, said Wilkins.

"It’s a little presumptuous of him to say who the United States can and cannot allow into our country," the ambassador told a news conference Wednesday. "Canadian officials would rightly never tolerate any American official dictating to them who they may or may not allow into their country."

"Those Bastards"

[guyser]

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day should back off because a U.S. review determined Arar should remain on the watch list, said Wilkins.

"It’s a little presumptuous of him to say who the United States can and cannot allow into our country," the ambassador told a news conference Wednesday. "Canadian officials would rightly never tolerate any American official dictating to them who they may or may not allow into their country."

"Those Bastards"

And rightly so. There country, their rules. Even though I think they should remove him, I am of no delusions in asking them too.

[leonardcohen]

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day should back off because a U.S. review determined Arar should remain on the watch list, said Wilkins.

"It’s a little presumptuous of him to say who the United States can and cannot allow into our country," the ambassador told a news conference Wednesday. "Canadian officials would rightly never tolerate any American official dictating to them who they may or may not allow into their country."

"Those Bastards"

Well,I hate to admit it,when you look at it that way,he's right.

I mean if the shoe was on the other foot,we'd raise a stink for sure,

but, he , to me exudes an air of sanctimoniousness

that makes me want to wipe that smirk off his face.

The one thing i can't abide it's being lectured to by a man,who up until his

being appointed Ambassador,probably knew as much about Canada as the average

American and could have cared less.

American officials dictating to another country-that would never happen

[tml12]

Public Safety Minister Stockwell Day should back off because a U.S. review determined Arar should remain on the watch list, said Wilkins.

"It’s a little presumptuous of him to say who the United States can and cannot allow into our country," the ambassador told a news conference Wednesday. "Canadian officials would rightly never tolerate any American official dictating to them who they may or may not allow into their country."

"Those Bastards"

Well,I hate to admit it,when you look at it that way,he's right.

I mean if the shoe was on the other foot,we'd raise a stink for sure,

but, he , to me exudes an air of sanctimoniousness

that makes me want to wipe that smirk off his face.

The one thing i can't abide it's being lectured to by a man,who up until his

being appointed Ambassador,probably knew as much about Canada as the average

American and could have cared less.

American officials dictating to another country-that would never happen

We do not know why the U.S. has Arar on the list.

In terms of Wilking, like it or not he's right and has every right to defend American sovereignty. Who cares about how much knowledge of Canadian history he has? That is completely erroneous to this topic. How much knowledge of Mexico do you think our Mexican ambassador has?

[jdobbin]

I think everyone here means Wilkins.

[tml12]

I think everyone here means Wilkins.

That's correct...post edited.

[leonardcohen]

Who cares about how much knowledge of Canadian history he has? That is completely erroneous to this topic. How much knowledge of Mexico do you think our Mexican ambassador has?

I care,but i was just trying to convey my visceral dislike of the guy.I watched a couple of interviews of the guy and i just noticed a supercilious attitude that seemed to emanate from him.

He should,otherwise you as dissing the country.Why should i listen to him if he can't be bothered to know us? It is part of an Ambassadors job description to know his adopted Country inside and out,backwards and forwards,at least it should be

[tml12]

Who cares about how much knowledge of Canadian history he has? That is completely erroneous to this topic. How much knowledge of Mexico do you think our Mexican ambassador has?

I care,but i was just trying to convey my visceral dislike of the guy.I watched a couple of interviews of the guy and i just noticed a supercilious attitude that seemed to emanate from him.

He should,otherwise you as dissing the country.Why should i listen to him if he can't be bothered to know us? It is part of an Ambassadors job description to know his adopted Country inside and out,backwards and forwards,at least it should be

I agree that it should be but I do not think that there is any requirement other than being nominated by the PM in Canada or being nominated by the President and confirmed by Congress in the U.S.

[August1991]

Representatives of the Canadian government regularly discuss with foreigners their treatment of Canadian citizens. It usually falls under the name of "human rights".

If the US government forbids a Canadian to travel to the US, I think Canada has every reason to ask why. If China were to arrest a Canadian citizen, you can be certain that the Canadian government would make enquiries.

The US is not China and what I find strange in this case is that the US considers Arar a risk whereas we don't. Why? (I wouldn't be surprised if the Chinese and Canadian governments disagreed about risk but I do find it strange that Canada and the US disagree.)

If I were Day, I'd pursue that question and I'm sure he has.

The end result is that justice, like a decision to admit a foreigner, is often a black & white decision whereas life is a matter of greys. The US has chosen to err on one side using a "balance of probabilities" rule whereas Canada has opted for the other side using a more stringent "beyond a reasonable doubt" criteria.

The last thing Day (or the Tories) want is for this Arar case to get back in the news. Also, I have a slight fear that Day is pulling a Liberal and showing that he can stand up to the Americans.

[Remiel]

If the U.S. knows something that could be important to our national security, and they aren't telling, aren't they violating a bucketload of alliances? Isn't that, by definition, a betrayal? Or they are lying. Neither paints a positive picture.

[August1991]

If the U.S. knows something that could be important to our national security, and they aren't telling, aren't they violating a bucketload of alliances? Isn't that, by definition, a betrayal? Or they are lying. Neither paints a positive picture.

That's kind of my point, remiel. I'm sure the US has told Day what it is but the information has been provided in such a way that it can't be used - certainly not publicly.

Moreover, the information probably means that Arar is "borderline" and the US has opted for one side and Canada for another. At this point, Day (and the Tories) don't want to take on this issue and put it in the press again so they're just going to live with it.

[tml12]

If the U.S. knows something that could be important to our national security, and they aren't telling, aren't they violating a bucketload of alliances? Isn't that, by definition, a betrayal? Or they are lying. Neither paints a positive picture.

That's kind of my point, remiel. I'm sure the US has told Day what it is but the information has been provided in such a way that it can't be used - certainly not publicly.

Moreover, the information probably means that Arar is "borderline" and the US has opted for one side and Canada for another. At this point, Day (and the Tories) don't want to take on this issue and put it in the press again so they're just going to live with it.

The bottom line is the U.S. is not telling Canada they should do one thing or another with the individual in question, they sre simply saying he can't enter the U.S.

As far as I'm concerned, case closed. The U.S. can do what they want. This is not an issue that should concern Canada anymore.

[Fortunata]

Aren't countries supposed to send a formal protest and get it reviewed or something?

It will be interesting to hear what Senator Leahy will have to say about this when Gonzales sends the promised info to him. Will the Senator be satisfied with what he reads or will he not?

[geoffrey]

Borrrring. He can take the $10mil and pay for his own investigation. We've spent far too much on him already.

I certainly don't want to have more of my tax dollars wasted on some Toronto IT professional. He needs to take his money and get out of our faces. What a piece of work.

[Catchme]

Thought Harper was supposed to get all nasty about it and play tough guy, was waiting all day, to see if he would live up to his talk?

Of course he didn't.

Hopefully, Leahy will get to the bottom of why not!!!!

Wilkins should've known something about Canada, he didn't and doesn't.

[bush_cheney2004]

Looks like the standard rate for getting hosed by the Crown is $10 million CDN (see D. Milgaard - 23 years in prison). I still don't understand how Zaccardelli gets to walk away with a full pension.

As to Arar, he can lease a corporate jet and fly around US airspace, as he will likely be watched for years to come anyway. No matter what, he has no right to enter the USA or overflights.

The 'Merkins banned John Lennon for far less, and look what he got when permitted to enter.