Banker/Wall Street Governance

Riverwind · January 25, 2007

I can quote books and other sources of facts and use lots of historical quotes that show complete agreement with what I am saying.

Sorry, posting links to dubious sites and out of context quotes is not an argument. If you want to make a case you have to be able to restate the case in your own words. If you are not willing to address the arguement then you simply demonstrate that you don't understand the material that you claim to know.

My argument is straightforward: When bankers lend money it has to go somewhere. When you follow the trail of money you realize that it must end up back in a bank. If it is in a bank then a bank must pay interest on it. So no matter what happens a bank has to pay for the money they lend.

So address the argument and stop wasting time claiming you have expertise which you so obviously do not have.

Jenna · January 25, 2007

how about when president andrew jackson said that he was very sorry indeed, and that the country had been sold to the bankers, forever changing the way the government and world politics would be run

he said that in 1936, when the agreement was signed

you really need to do some research

why are doctors, professors, scientists and the like, despite death threats, coming forward and telling us horrible stories about these bankers

rather than invading iraq due to phantom terrorists, does it not make a little more sense that iraq was actually taken over because saddam couldnt pay off his debt to the bankers, the same people who gave him all the money for schools, hospitals, and yes, weapons?

Jenna · January 25, 2007

and why, pre tell, are there masonic symbols all over our money and architecture?

hmm?

ha they even have it on the military uniforms

also, heres a fun fact

notice how george bush wears military gear, for no apparent reason

well well, the only other 2 leaders in history to do that are....

thats right, saddam , and hitler

good times.

rockafeller owns you, how do you feel about that

henry kissinger owns you, how do you feel about that

i cant wait until i get put into a fema camp for protesting, and then labelled as a terrorist

land of the weak, home of the slaves,

welcome to our beloved canada

good to have you.

kimmy · January 25, 2007

how about when president andrew jackson said that he was very sorry indeed, and that the country had been sold to the bankers, forever changing the way the government and world politics would be run
he said that in 1936, when the agreement was signed

Neat trick, considering Andrew Jackson died in 1845.

Would you or Polynewbie supply links to Olbermann or Dobbs speaking about the "new world order"? I'm sure we're all eager to see these.

-k

Ricki Bobbi · January 25, 2007

and why, pre tell, are there masonic symbols all over our money and architecture?

Uhh, that's American money not Canadian.

The only archiecture would be Masonic Temples...

Jenna · January 25, 2007

sorry, 1837

and yes here he is now

ill be happy to provide more

Jenna · January 25, 2007

Jenna · January 25, 2007

and why, pre tell, are there masonic symbols all over our money and architecture?

Uhh, that's American money not Canadian.

The only archiecture would be Masonic Temples...

oi vey

here you go too

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NOOiIenPCtY

if you dont care for the speaker, im sure itll be easy to find another

simple research

Jenna · January 25, 2007

voila, mr olberman

do you see now

Ricki Bobbi · January 25, 2007

oi vey
here you go too

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NOOiIenPCtY

if you dont care for the speaker, im sure itll be easy to find another

simple research

Why would I listen to 21 minutes worth of rambling about ancient symbols as a means of communication?

Masonic symbols on Canadian money?

Simple research provides simple answers.

A 21 minute indoctrination video is just plain freaky...

Jenna · January 25, 2007

well maybe you can listen to dear old olberman talk about it then

guyser · January 25, 2007

also, heres a fun fact
notice how george bush wears military gear, for no apparent reason

well well, the only other 2 leaders in history to do that are....

thats right, saddam , and hitler

Oh yeah good times is right. (pssst.. the only recall I have of GWB wearing miltary fatigues was on the deck of the aircraft carrier)

Heres a fun fact . Saddam and Hitler huh......what about

Pinochet

Castro

Noriega

Amin

Every single leader in East Africa

Mussolini

Stalin

Shall I continue with these fun facts ? Cuz , you know , they are sooo funny and everyone is laughing....at something . Any guesses as to what they are laughing about ? Come on take a wild guess.

Jenna · January 25, 2007

even better, stalin too

awe-some

and just because you only recall seeing bush wearing it once, doesnt mean he didnt wear it more than once

i dont take offense when you say youre laughing, or so and so is laughing, etc etc

meh

ive given you credible reporters to refer to, and what they say isnt confusing, and cant be taken to mean anything but what it is

guyser · January 25, 2007

even better, stalin too
awe-some

and just because you only recall seeing bush wearing it once, doesnt mean he didnt wear it more than once

i dont take offense when you say youre laughing, or so and so is laughing, etc etc

meh

ive given you credible reporters to refer to, and what they say isnt confusing, and cant be taken to mean anything but what it is

Ahhh...the classic internet post when someone has been shown to have no credibility in their arguements.

Thats okay, because I have a secret decoder ring and it takes every third letter out of your post , then it translates whats left.....lets see now...here comes the real message in your post......hang on.....

"I am sorry to waste everyones time with my delusions of banks, bankers,nations , 9-11 eating this world and now my mommy says dinner is ready and I have to take a bath after"

Cool decoder ring dont you think ? It also beeps when people walk by in tin foil hats. Damn thing never shuts up when this thread is opened.

I am done---good night, last word is yours !

Jenna · January 25, 2007

lol

i guess you didnt take the time to watch those news clips then huh

its k

instead of attacking others who dont share your conditioned beliefs, and finding every opportunity to belittle them and discredit their every word, simply because YOU think you are better or smarter than they, is immature, and typical

thats the difference between us

i dont need to be defensive and abusive, because im not confused and angry

youll see, sweetpea

once you know the deal, youll be a-ok

unless of course its too late by then

<3 <3

geoffrey · January 25, 2007

even better, stalin too
awe-some

and just because you only recall seeing bush wearing it once, doesnt mean he didnt wear it more than once

i dont take offense when you say youre laughing, or so and so is laughing, etc etc

meh

ive given you credible reporters to refer to, and what they say isnt confusing, and cant be taken to mean anything but what it is

Perhaps he was wearing military gear because he was flying a military plane at the time. I think I'd be wearing some protective measures flying a military aircraft, but hey, that's just me. I'm sure Tony Blair, the stylish man that he is, would have landed his Harrier wearing a Hugo Boss suit.

Canadian Blue · January 25, 2007

lol
i guess you didnt take the time to watch those news clips then huh

its k

instead of attacking others who dont share your conditioned beliefs, and finding every opportunity to belittle them and discredit their every word, simply because YOU think you are better or smarter than they, is immature, and typical

thats the difference between us

i dont need to be defensive and abusive, because im not confused and angry

youll see, sweetpea

once you know the deal, youll be a-ok

unless of course its too late by then

<3 <3

Who taught you english, a mentally handicapped monkey. I'm no english professor, but seriously try to make you're posts neater.

I think you're paranoid and delusional. Probably suffering from mean world syndrome as well.

geoffrey · January 25, 2007

Lou Dobbs in an inexperienced, worthless pseudo-journalist/silver spoon academic hack. I've seen more intelligent stuff on Strombopolous's The Hour.

When your market is generally poor, blue collar workers... generally white people would believe the immigrants are taking over... it doesn't take facts to sell commericals, it takes spin and anger. He creates anger in the poor trailer trash communities to sell commericals. His purpose can't possibly be greater than that.

If I were Harvard, I'd revoke his degree for the disgrace that his ignorance brings to the school.

I put free trade naysayers in the same category as flat Earthers and global warming deniers.

It's here, it's happening, it's real and unavoidable... and it's in the best interest of EVERYONE to pursue it with vigour. If you lose with free trade, it just outlines how unsustainable and poorly managed your economy was to begin with.

PolyNewbie · January 25, 2007

Geoffrey:... and it's in the best interest of EVERYONE to pursue it with vigour. If you lose with free trade, it just outlines how unsustainable and poorly managed your economy was to begin with.

Please explain how free trade is beneficial to the working class. Its beneficial to the investment class and wouldn't debate anyone on that. Its good for the uber rich.

PolyNewbie · January 25, 2007

These guys will first say our ideas are only of conspiracy theorists and they will never reach mainstream because they are wacky.

Then when the ideas reach mainstream they say the messengers are insane.

When you ask them about what they have read on the topic and where their knowledge comes from they shut up.

So what does this tell us Jenna ?

Charles Anthony · January 25, 2007

Please explain how free trade is beneficial to the working class. Its beneficial to the investment class and wouldn't debate anyone on that. Its good for the uber rich.

It is better for the uber-poor.

We import coffee, sugar and bananas from foreign countries. If we had to produce those things in Canadian greenhouses, they would cost a fortune. The uber-poor would starve but the greenhouse companies would get rich. Now, do you understand?

At the risk of driving myself further insane, we import coffee, sugar and bananas from foreign countries. If we had to produce those things in Canadian greenhouses, they would cost a fortune. The uber-poor would starve but the greenhouse companies would get rich. Now, do you understand?

The vast majority of everything we consume is imported. Forget about money and think about time. How do you suppose we are able to find the time to produce, let alone afford, everything we consume?????? Now, do you understand?

Lou Dobbs in an inexperienced, worthless pseudo-journalist/silver spoon academic hack. I've seen more intelligent stuff on Strombopolous's The Hour.

To be fair, Lou Dobbs is in show-business and he has to get ratings. I put him in the same category as professional wrestling.

You watch the CBC??? Where does that put YOU?

and it's in the best interest of EVERYONE to pursue it with vigour.

Technically, that is wrong. Free-trade is NOT in the best interests of the protected industries.

If you lose with free trade, it just outlines how unsustainable and poorly managed your economy was to begin with.

Unsustainable, yes. Poorly managed, no.

PolyNewbie · January 25, 2007

Charles Anthony:We import coffee, sugar and bananas from foreign countries. If we had to produce those things in Canadian greenhouses, they would cost a fortune. The uber-poor would starve but the greenhouse companies would get rich. Now, do you understand?

Of course I understand that but free trade does not bring their standards of living up it only brings ours down. We have to go to war to set up these systems that work for us.

Bananas are too cheap in price for their economic value. I think a banana should cost about 50 cents to a dollar.

The only real problem that our civization faces is over population. This can be managed using other methods than war and dipravity.

The truth is out there, ex intelligence officers are saying it, ex presidential advisors are saying it, its in the history books, its been on TV as 60's era documentaries and must importantly its in a wide ranging set of quotes throughout history. Its in books you can buy at Coles and mainstream news anchors are starting to say it.

Its just not on TV every day and its very shocking so you can't handle it and bury your head in a tube.

PolyNewbie · January 25, 2007

Charles Anthony: Free-trade is NOT in the best interests of the protected industries.

How is that ?

Jenna · January 25, 2007

i made a point of calling harper's office this morning, as i was told that if i mentioned the nau, that they would deny it existed.

not surprisingly, they did say that "there is no north american union"

and yet as you disaree with me about the details of it, you know it is real

why then are our own government offices lying about it?

oh i know, it must be because of all the hidden benefits we're not supposed to know about

Charles Anthony · January 25, 2007

Of course I understand that but free trade does not bring their standards of living up it only brings ours down.

No, you do not understand free trade. I have already explained it in extremely simplistic terms and you do not get it.

I highly recommend taking a high-school introductory economics course to teach the elementary mechanics of supply and demand. Otherwise, you have no hope to understand free trade. If you are lucky, you can find a local school that offers evening continuing education courses. Often, the schools have very lax requirements for people who are taking courses for personal enrichment.