Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 I feel at this point we are at war with a third world invasion of the west and a Liberal agenda to destroy Chirstianity, and family values. Then sign up! Off you go, there's a good lad. I heard poeple saying this 10 years back and thought these guys were American right wing 'wackos'. But after this show, it's a sign. Those wacko's have done nothing but prove themselves to be right over the years. In Bizzaro world, maybe. Quote
stignasty Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 Well there was that one really stupid/paranoid guy. The funny thing is that the more I read on these forums the more I'm inclined to believe that people like him exist. Dont' you see? The show is creating a false stereo type that you are believe in. Dude, it's not the show that's making me believe in the stereotype, it's you. You act just like the paranoid ignoramus on the show who sees monsters in every closet (or terrorists in every parish hall). You are living evidence that guys like him exist. As long as you continue to act the way you do, I'll continue to question whether the writers of the show got it right. Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
mikedavid00 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Posted January 10, 2007 Again, how is CBC content really relevant to the discussion of whether or not we should have a public broadcaster? I love how you are trying to dodge that one. The CBC *is* a content based organization. It's content should be to report news in Canada's intereset, not hold a political left wing agenda. This is determined by it's content. It's kind of irrelevant what they broadcast; Your trying to sound 'clever' as they say in the UK. It is of complete relevance as they are a 'broadcaster'. The difference being is that it's funded by our tax dollars thus, we the people own it. Unlike CanWest. We have a say on it's content and it's mandate (correction: we should have a say). The role of a public broadcaster is not to promote a social or political Agenda. Little Mosque on the prarie does this while funded by my tax dollars. you're just opposed to their receipt of tax money in general. So why do you avoid that issue and focus on criticizing their relatively innocuous content? Ultimately, I think, avoiding the real issue just hurts your argument. I've said since day 1 that I don't beleive the CBC should be funded or they should stick to radio news. This was years back. Little Mosque on the Prarie took things to new levels. It's promoting a political and social agenda from a religious minority group while degrading Canada. This is not the role of the CBC. Unless, of course, your motives are just to get people to watch CBC. I don't watch or listen much to the CBC. I never even heard of Corner Gas since last week. (note: I listened to the CBC this morning for 2 min and SURE ENOUGH, there's an anti-alberta story being run about the oil sands and polution.) Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Black Dog Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 (note: I listened to the CBC this morning for 2 min and SURE ENOUGH, there's an anti-alberta story being run about the oil sands and polution.) md00 makes me think of this guy. Can you make out the image of Jesus and Mary in the rock pictured with this story? Cornell Neace says he can. In fact, it’s the fourth time in the past year the Bartlett man has claimed he’s seen the image of Jesus in the rocks he collects. Quote
mikedavid00 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Posted January 10, 2007 But the theme has limited scope in a comedic environment. I would disagree. Many great sitcoms have been based off taboo social issues. This is the modern sitcom with tons of potential. It has so much potential to run for years and years. It can only get racier and racier. Almost any show will promote an agenda if it runs for long enough and over the years I think you'll see this show get more racy and finally cause controversy. I don't think there's much more that can be done to insult Canadians. There's lots of room for cameo appearances. I'm sure Arar will eventually appear on the program seing as they made a reference to him already. There's an unlimited possibility of new actors to join the show. And of course, it's a matter of time before the daughter falls in love with a non-mulsim boy. That's definately in the cards. What I can say is the end result will always positively potray Islam and it will slowely brainwash the minds of the Canadians. (oh yes, and I loved the way they attacked the CPC). Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
mikedavid00 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Report Posted January 10, 2007 As long as you continue to act the way you do, I'll continue to question whether the writers of the show got it right. Hehehe.. you don't know me personally. My hi5 profile doesn't agree with your statement. I am personal friends with Muslims and have dated one actually. A love interest with another in school. I think I should know about Muslims, immigrants, and cultures. My circle of friends are from parent who came to Canada during a time when we had good immigrants and people integrated in with our society. Now, just anyone is coming. That includes terrorists and sympathisers. This is not an issue of friends though, it's about bad apples ruining it for everyone. I do believe that our security, culture, and way of life is threatened by those bad apples. This is also a Liberal agenda that would like the same. It's in the signs of things that are happening, it's in the numbers. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Who's Doing What? Posted January 10, 2007 Report Posted January 10, 2007 I would disagree. Many great sitcoms have been based off taboo social issues. This is the modern sitcom with tons of potential. It has so much potential to run for years and years. It can only get racier and racier. Almost any show will promote an agenda if it runs for long enough and over the years I think you'll see this show get more racy and finally cause controversy. I don't think there's much more that can be done to insult Canadians. There's lots of room for cameo appearances. I'm sure Arar will eventually appear on the program seing as they made a reference to him already. There's an unlimited possibility of new actors to join the show. And of course, it's a matter of time before the daughter falls in love with a non-mulsim boy. That's definately in the cards. What I can say is the end result will always positively potray Islam and it will slowely brainwash the minds of the Canadians. (oh yes, and I loved the way they attacked the CPC). Man now even I'm starting to think you are a CBC plant who is promoting the show. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Canadian Blue Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I think the movie Crash was funnier, and had a more pertinent social message than Little Mosque on the Prarie does. I wouldn't sweat it, how many people do you think even watch the show. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
geoffrey Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 2.1 million people watched it, it took away viewers from other commerical networks. In other words, the CBC was far outside of their mandate. They have no business in producing anything that is commerically viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
apollo19 Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I forced myself to watch the whole show, to see what all the fuss was about. What I saw was disgusting. Stereotyping white people, stereotyping Toronto people, stereotyping rural people. I have to wonder why the CBC would allow such a sub-par production to be allowed. Also, I don't see why many Muslims feel the need to overrepresent themselves in the world. Why did the CBC, a public broadcaster, allow a show about Muslims and their "hardships"? They are a smaller minority than others, yet they get disproportionately larger attention. The show is a slap in the face, although I guess it was green-lighted as I found it to have the little "Canadian" smugness in it -- showing an airport security person saying "oh you're a muslim, you aren't getting on this plane!"... ha-ha. I equate that to the typical Canadian who says "oh that American thinks we live in igloos! what a dumb country the US is!".. ha-ha. Hopefully it is pulled from the air promptly. Quote
Riverwind Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 2.1 million people watched it, it took away viewers from other commercial networks.Not surprising given the press buzz. The important numbers will be for episode three.In other words, the CBC was far outside of their mandate.There mandate is to produce Canadian programming but they are not given enough funding so they are forced to sell advertising. Provide the CBC with adequate funding and it would not need to run ads.They have no business in producing anything that is commercially viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further.Yada, yada, yada. If the produced a show that was not commercially viable then you would be complaining that it was a waste of money. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
geoffrey Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 They have no business in producing anything that is commercially viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further.Yada, yada, yada. If the produced a show that was not commercially viable then you would be complaining that it was a waste of money. It would be. Why do millions of Canadian's subsidize an unhealthy habit (watching TV) for a very select minority (CBC viewers)? More people play hockey in Canada than regularly watch CBC. With the billion CBC gets, you could outfit nearly a million people in hockey gear ($1000 each). With the quantity discount, you may be able to provide every willing Canadian with free hockey gear. Hrrmph. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
madmax Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 Well like I mentioned in the other thread on this topic, hmm, who had to start a new thread on the same topic? Well anyways, like I said, the show wasn't that funny, a bit of a yawner, typical sitcom stuff. But here, wow, this thread is funny. I can find the stereo types and the wackos that I would want to put in a TV show. But alas, they don't pay enough. Quote
BubberMiley Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 They have no business in producing anything that is commerically viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further. I still don't get why you people can;t just be upfront with your argument--that you simply do not believe in public broadcasting. Why do you have to make these lame-ass criticisms of the content? Because this approach is really a non-starter when you can criticize them for stating an opinion, criticize them for not stating an opinion, criticize them for being popular, criticize them for not being popular, blah, blah, blah. Besides, they obviously only did so well because of their grassroots campaign to generate buzz (e.g., MikeDavid00). Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jdobbin Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 2.1 million people watched it, it took away viewers from other commerical networks. In other words, the CBC was far outside of their mandate.They have no business in producing anything that is commerically viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further. That just might make it the number 1 show this week. Quote
geoffrey Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I still don't get why you people can;t just be upfront with your argument--that you simply do not believe in public broadcasting. I think I've made my views rather clear. I have no problem saying I'm genuinely opposed to public broadcasting. Besides, they obviously only did so well because of their grassroots campaign to generate buzz (e.g., MikeDavid00). Yup, people like Mike are the main reason this show did so well. I wonder if he realises that. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Riverwind Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 It would be. Why do millions of Canadian's subsidize an unhealthy habit (watching TV) for a very select minority (CBC viewers)?I would argue that a significant miniority, if not a majority, of Canadians watch or listen to CBC programming regularily. They just don't listen/watch all of the programming. I think this is why the CBC still exists. If it did not have a broad base of support it would have went the way of Via rail. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
mikedavid00 Posted January 11, 2007 Author Report Posted January 11, 2007 I wouldn't sweat it, how many people do you think even watch the show. http://www.thestar.com/News/article/169770 A lot, and many all over the world. "An audience of more than a million is considered a huge number for a Canadian show. CTV’s Corner Gas, the private broadcaster’s big sitcom hit and one of the country’s highest-rated shows, pulls in close to 1.5 million viewers a week. American powerhouse shows like Desperate Housewives and House routinely get just over two million Canadian viewers a week. " Basically it was a smash succsess. I'm very respectfully and nicely asking people here to maybe open up to the idea that there are a lot, a LOT of mulsims and immigrants in Canada. Just because you might be from Winnipeg, or Calgary and you might not see it front of your face, come here to the GTA and you will not even hear English. When you go to the Bay at the mall near my house, there is a sign outside offering service in 'the following languages'. There is a board with flags showing all the languages you can get service in. I should take a picture for proof. I predicted the show would be a huge, massive succsess and I has right. It will have a run for more than 2 years I predict. Why did it do well? We have TONS of muslims and immigrants in Canada who are interested in these things. Sure enough the show is a blockbuster and the highest rated Canadian show. I wish I was living in a city that took in 4% of immigrants like Calgary. Or I could move to Colorado, Ohio, etc. (made BBC news of course) Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
geoffrey Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I wish I was living in a city that took in 4% of immigrants like Calgary. Ed Stelmach is currently trying to get Alberta equality with Quebec on running it's own immigration show. Most Albertans want more immigration because Easterns won't move out of welfare to work our jobs. We need to import people, Calgary won't be only 4% for long. I'd suggest we haven't been for some time either. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I think I've made my views rather clear. I have no problem saying I'm genuinely opposed to public broadcasting. I see no immediate changes to the broadcast policy in Canada. What is the Conservative policy on public broadcasting? Quote
geoffrey Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 I think I've made my views rather clear. I have no problem saying I'm genuinely opposed to public broadcasting. I see no immediate changes to the broadcast policy in Canada. What is the Conservative policy on public broadcasting? I don't think there is a policy on it. Status quo. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
Catchme Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 2.1 million people watched it, it took away viewers from other commerical networks. In other words, the CBC was far outside of their mandate.They have no business in producing anything that is commerically viable. Time to pull the plug before they damage the industry further. That is the other networks fault that their programming was/is lame, not the CBC's. Why should the 2.1 million people who watched it be deprived of an opportunity to view what they want and be forced to view the pap put out by Global and CTV? We the watchers and listeners of CBC pay for CBC too ya know, it is not just YOU! In fact, I will suggest, that you think about your tax dollars going to the military, where I do not want my tax dollars going, and that my tax dollars are funding the CBC where you do not want your tax money going. And sure they should produce things that are commercially vialble, to say that they shouldn't makes absolutely NO SENSE. Supporting Canadian actors and the Canadian TV and film industry is a good thing. If they can sell it into syndication even better. Quote When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die. ~Jean-Paul Sartre
blueblood Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 Supporting Canadian actors and the Canadian TV and film industry is a good thing. If they can sell it into syndication even better. No it's not, if I can be like the other free market supporters, why should we support an inefficient industry, there is a wayyy better industry down south, and they can provide us with high quality entertainment for a fraction of the price. Just think of all the money we could save. I wouldn't worry since the Mosque airs on Wednesday now when Lost comes back on this show will be history. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Remiel Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 Do most people have access to coast-to-coast CBC channels? There are at least three opportunities to watch the show on a day its on. Quote
Riverwind Posted January 11, 2007 Report Posted January 11, 2007 No it's not, if I can be like the other free market supporters, why should we support an inefficient industry, there is a wayyy better industry down south, and they can provide us with high quality entertainment for a fraction of the price. Just think of all the money we could save.Just think of all of the money we would save if closed down the federal gov't and just let Americans run the country. Ensuring a place in the market for Canadian production is at least as important to Canadian sovereignty as having a well equipped military. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
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