Arar affair cost RCMP about $5-million

[Leafless]

The latest take on the Arar case is the RCMP spent a total of $5-million dollars on the Arar case.

It spent $863,589.14 investigating Arar as a so called person of interest and the rest in the forces participation into the inquiry headed by Judge Dennis O'Connor at a cost about $4.1 million.

If this does not encourage the feds to ban all Muslim immigration, WHAT WILL?

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[Black Dog]

If this doesn't encourage the feds to ban all Muslim immigration, WHAT WILL?

Sounds to me like more of an incentive to ban sending Canadian citizens off to be tortured.

[myata]

Bravo! "I screwed up, you pay up".

[watching&waiting]

It disturbs me to see that people still have not learned the lessons behind the Arar case. That being so we will probably repeat it again and again until we do learn them. Canadians should never send any citizen to a foreign country, especiallt while in detention, where we know their are very good chances that they will be tortured. This should have by now sunk down to all levels of the RCMP and CSIS etc. The fact that the RCMP Commissioner took the blame and resigned, dhould not negate the fact that this was done, with the full knowledge of the RCMP and its members. The sad thing is, not one stepoped forward and said this was wrong. That shows then that the whole of the RCMP checks and balances that were in place, just do not work. We need new oversite, and that oversite should not be from the ranks of the police agancies at all.

I realise that there are some things that need to be kept secret for the sake of the country, but there is nothing about the whole mechanism that Arar brought about, that needs secrecy except, to cover up what was a huge mistake by the RCMP to begin with. The people of Canada should demand more and they should also demand that they be now included into the oversite committees, that way we will be less likely to repeat the things.

The cost is small if we learn from it, but it will only grow infinitely higher the longer it takes to learn those lessons. This would be one time where the government of the day can make some very sensible appointments, and save the taxpayers lots of money. I will wait and see if that happens.

[Leafless]

It disturbs me to see that people still have not learned the lessons behind the Arar case. That being so we will probably repeat it again and again until we do learn them. Canadians should never send any citizen to a foreign country, especiallt while in detention, where we know their are very good chances that they will be tortured. This should have by now sunk down to all levels of the RCMP and CSIS etc. The fact that the RCMP Commissioner took the blame and resigned, dhould not negate the fact that this was done, with the full knowledge of the RCMP and its members. The sad thing is, not one stepoped forward and said this was wrong. That shows then that the whole of the RCMP checks and balances that were in place, just do not work. We need new oversite, and that oversite should not be from the ranks of the police agancies at all.

A Canadian citizen was not sent to Syria.

It was a Syrian citizen, a suspected terrorist that was sent to Jordan. BTW- Syria did not even want Arar unless Jordan hand delivered him, which they did.

An $863,589.14 investigation sounds like a pretty impressive RCMP file on a single person.

We will probably never know the true facts why the RCMP commissioner resigned as a result of the Arar inquiry, which could have been a technicality as seen by the inquiry, but perhaps in a court of law would have interpreted the situation differently.

All I know it is apparent Canada is placing Canadian citizens at risk, by accepting immigrants with dual citizenships from terrorist oriented countries.

What kind of irresponsible government would not recognize this simple fact, and that is probably the MAIN REASON our Canadian government wanted Arar exonerated as to remain faultless and blameless.

It beats me how any Canadian citizen can put their trust into a government shielded, secretive inquiry and and actually accept the outcome without knowing anything about the evidence the RCMP produced and what was said concerning how exactly Arar was faulted by the RCMP.

[Black Dog]

A Canadian citizen was not sent to Syria.

It was a Syrian citizen, a suspected terrorist that was sent to Jordan. BTW- Syria did not even want Arar unless Jordan hand delivered him, which they did.

So you're denying Arar's Canadian citizenship. Someone better figure out where he got that passport, then.

You may not accept the validity of Arar's citizenship, but it's an indisputable fact that he is a Canadian.

An $863,589.14 investigation sounds like a pretty impressive RCMP file on a single person.

And yet they couldn't come up with anything to charge him with. Huh.

We will probably never know the true facts why the RCMP commissioner resigned as a result of the Arar inquiry, which could have been a technicality as seen by the inquiry, but perhaps in a court of law would have interpreted the situation differently.

We know why. He perjured himself.

All I know it is apparent Canada is placing Canadian citizens at risk, by accepting immigrants with dual citizenships from terrorist oriented countries.

How? If Arar is such a threat, why was he taken back in and why hasn't he been charged with any crime?

It beats me how any Canadian citizen can put their trust into a government shielded, secretive inquiry and and actually accept the outcome without knowing anything about the evidence the RCMP produced and what was said concerning how exactly Arar was faulted by the RCMP.

It beats me how anyone can trust a government that by its own admission, provides false information to foreign government's, making them complicit in the abduction and imprionment without charge or trail of one of their own citizens, and then attempts to cover up its involvement after the fact. And here's another brain teaser: if the RCMP provided the inquiry with sooper secret information on Arar, only to have the same inquiry, in the end, clear Arar of all allegations of involvemnt in terrorism, then why the fuck are you yahoos still calling for the man's head?

[Leafless]

It beats me how anyone can trust a government that by its own admission, provides false information to foreign government's, making them complicit in the abduction and imprionment without charge or trail of one of their own citizens, and then attempts to cover up its involvement after the fact. And here's another brain teaser: if the RCMP provided the inquiry with sooper secret information on Arar, only to have the same inquiry, in the end, clear Arar of all allegations of involvemnt in terrorism, then why the fuck are you yahoos still calling for the man's head?

You can not prove outside of the CLOSED, secretive, federal government inquiry, that the RCMP have faulted Arar.

You cannot prove that Arar was exonerated for the simple reason to save Canada's competence concerning its immigration system and not to mar its 'Charter of Rights and Freedom's' nor implicate Canada's entire Muslim community as untrustworthy.

A court of law would have established 'whatever the outcome' as factual, perhaps at the expense of the federal government, something the CLOSED, SECRETIVE INQUIRY could never do, and will always leave the impression of a government cover up, to save its own incompetent butt.

[mikedavid00]

The latest take on the Arar case is the RCMP spent a total of $5-million dollars on the Arar case.

Correction. We spent $5,000,000 on Arar and $100,000's more on providing him and his family social services and healthcare.

It is so unfortunate that we are letting ourselves being taken advantage of from outsiders who couldn't give two damns about us.

Have you heard Arar speak? After all this time he can barely speak English.

GO HOME ARAR! GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!

[Figleaf]

The latest take on the Arar case is the RCMP spent a total of $5-million dollars on the Arar case.

It spent $863,589.14 investigating Arar as a so called person of interest and the rest in the forces participation into the inquiry headed by Judge Dennis O'Connor at a cost about $4.1 million.

If this does not encourage the feds to ban all Muslim immigration, WHAT WILL?

Could you please explain why expensive RCMP a$$-covering should convince us to change immiGration policies?

[Who's Doing What?]

The latest take on the Arar case is the RCMP spent a total of $5-million dollars on the Arar case.

Correction. We spent $5,000,000 on Arar and $100,000's more on providing him and his family social services and healthcare.

It is so unfortunate that we are letting ourselves being taken advantage of from outsiders who couldn't give two damns about us.

Have you heard Arar speak? After all this time he can barely speak English.

GO HOME ARAR! GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY!!

How long has it been since your family were immigrants?

[scribblet]

Is there any actual proof that Arar was tortured, we only have his word that he was? And really, he knew the people he was hanging with were on the FBI, M15 (et al) watch list, his activities were on the suspicious side to say the least. I'm not so sure he's completely innocent, but I guess we can call him the 36m man huh...

[mikedavid00]

Is there any actual proof that Arar was tortured,

NO!

THere is NO proof he was tortured, no visible scars, red cross said he had no signs, and he didn't admit to it till the 7th visit.

There is much more evidence that stacks against his case than for his case.

Either way, he is working on becoming a million air off our tax dollars.

[Saturn]

Is there any actual proof that Arar was tortured, we only have his word that he was? And really, he knew the people he was hanging with were on the FBI, M15 (et al) watch list, his activities were on the suspicious side to say the least. I'm not so sure he's completely innocent, but I guess we can call him the 36m man huh...

We can call you the bullshit spin man, huh...

[Figleaf]

A Canadian citizen was not sent to Syria.

It's comments like that by which you demonstrate your own intense ridiculousness. Arar is indisputably a Canadian citizen and that fact was known to the officials who renditioned him for torture.

An $863,589.14 investigation sounds like a pretty impressive RCMP file on a single person.

Particularly when nothing is discovered!

We will probably never know the true facts why the RCMP commissioner resigned...

Yes, there should be some investigation into why The Zaccster changed his story.

[scribblet]

Is there any actual proof that Arar was tortured,

NO!

THere is NO proof he was tortured, no visible scars, red cross said he had no signs, and he didn't admit to it till the 7th visit.

There is much more evidence that stacks against his case than for his case.

Either way, he is working on becoming a million air off our tax dollars.

Last I heard he still has his Syrian citizenship, if he was treated so badly there, why hang on to it.