How Gullible are we

[margrace]

We hear howls of protest on here when some suggest that maybe 911 isn't what it appears to be. Then when we suggest that maybe our cars and such are facilitating the speed up of our global warming we hear more howls of conspiracy.

Well I have a conspiracy the tops them all. For over a thousand years the so called Chrisian and Mohammed religions have been used to control us.

In the spirit of conspiracies how do you prove all this. Is there a God and who or what is he? Did Jesus really exist and isn't it convenient that his birhtday supposedly falls on the time of the old celebrations from centuries ago.

Why would we believe one conspiracy, to control us, and get so upset at the suggestion that there are others?

[MightyAC]

Hard to argue with that.

[Leafless]

We hear howls of protest on here when some suggest that maybe 911 isn't what it appears to be. Then when we suggest that maybe our cars and such are facilitating the speed up of our global warming we hear more howls of conspiracy.

Well I have a conspiracy the tops them all. For over a thousand years the so called Chrisian and Mohammed religions have been used to control us.

In the spirit of conspiracies how do you prove all this. Is there a God and who or what is he? Did Jesus really exist and isn't it convenient that his birhtday supposedly falls on the time of the old celebrations from centuries ago.

Why would we believe one conspiracy, to control us, and get so upset at the suggestion that there are others?

All religions have one thing in common and that is, followers of any religion have the RIGHT to believe in their God, WITHOUT LOGICAL PROOF.

Old time religions were OLD TIME POLITICS and just another way to control the masses and Islam for example even though we are in 2006, still remains an ancient, primitive and very convincing religion concerning its followers, especially in Arab countries.

You can not confuse modern harmless domesticated Christian religions with Mohammad religions. Islam for example is a volatile, extreme example of an OLD TIME RELIGION followed by the many Muslim extremist out of pure outright ignorance.

[cybercoma]

All religions have one thing in common and that is, followers of any religion have the RIGHT to believe in their God, WITHOUT LOGICAL PROOF.

Old time religions were OLD TIME POLITICS and just another way to control the masses and Islam for example even though we are in 2006, still remains an ancient, primitive and very convincing religion concerning its followers, especially in Arab countries.

You can not confuse modern harmless domesticated Christian religions with Mohammad religions. Islam for example is a volatile, extreme example of an OLD TIME RELIGION followed by the many Muslim extremist out of pure outright ignorance.

Islam is more volatile than Christianity?

Did you forget that God is the one who told Bush to invade Iraq and Afghanistan?

I'm not going to get into a pissing match about which religion can claim more 'kills', the fact of the matter is that both have been horribly violent and continue to do so.

[jefferiah]

All religions have one thing in common and that is, followers of any religion have the RIGHT to believe in their God, WITHOUT LOGICAL PROOF.

Old time religions were OLD TIME POLITICS and just another way to control the masses and Islam for example even though we are in 2006, still remains an ancient, primitive and very convincing religion concerning its followers, especially in Arab countries.

You can not confuse modern harmless domesticated Christian religions with Mohammad religions. Islam for example is a volatile, extreme example of an OLD TIME RELIGION followed by the many Muslim extremist out of pure outright ignorance.

Islam is more volatile than Christianity?

Did you forget that God is the one who told Bush to invade Iraq and Afghanistan?

I'm not going to get into a pissing match about which religion can claim more 'kills', the fact of the matter is that both have been horribly violent and continue to do so.

You are taking an isolated example. A dog told David Berkowitz to do a few things too. Are dogs violent? Christianity as a religion has not actually promoted any wars. There is nothing in the New Testament that calls the believer to make war with infidels. Islam does. If you want to mention the Crusades it was not sanctioned by the Bible, and nonetheless there are many who would argue the Crusades were not the imperialism they are made out to be, but rather a response to a few hundred years of Muslim imperialism. The Muslims had been successful in imperializing North Africa, Turkey and even made their way into Spain before the Pope and Europe responded.

[cybercoma]

There are far more examples than just the Crusades, which most certainly were a Christian war as much as the current trend of terrorism is an Islamic war. The Bible may not have said specifically for the Crusades to take place but it was backed by the Church, just as the Church turned a blind eye to the holocaust.

Like I said, I'm not going to get to a pissing match about death tolls, the fact is that violence in the name of God is at the very least to the same tune as violence in the name of Allah. Neither one deserves justification and it's insulting to people's intelligence to suggest that any one religion is more violent than the others. They're all violent and that's bad enough for me and hopefully for most people.

[jefferiah]

We hear howls of protest on here when some suggest that maybe 911 isn't what it appears to be. Then when we suggest that maybe our cars and such are facilitating the speed up of our global warming we hear more howls of conspiracy.

Well I have a conspiracy the tops them all. For over a thousand years the so called Chrisian and Mohammed religions have been used to control us.

In the spirit of conspiracies how do you prove all this. Is there a God and who or what is he? Did Jesus really exist and isn't it convenient that his birhtday supposedly falls on the time of the old celebrations from centuries ago.

Why would we believe one conspiracy, to control us, and get so upset at the suggestion that there are others?

Jesus Birthday does not fall on Christmas. Everyone knows this. All Christians know this. Nobody knew when he was born. But there was a holiday season in the formerly pagan countries where Christianity became big so instead of changing the dates of holidays they Christianized them. Alot of Christians will not celebrate Christmas either because of its connection to a formerly pagan holiday. In Roman Catholicism I would say that the power the priest supposedly holds over the Eucharist ceromony is a good example of tweaking the religion to use it to control people. Catholic doctrine says that the priest (and only the priest) has the power to convert the bread and wine into the body and blood, and that taking this sacrament is necessary for salvation. But there is nothing about this in the bible. All Jesus ever said was to "do this in memory of me."

Upon examination of the New Testament the only thing in there that could be used to control people without adding complex doctrines in the way Roman Catholicism did, are the statements about giving to Caesar what is Caesar's and respecting authority. It never says that authority is infallible however. I would say that this means it is better to be a gullible sheep than to be a brilliant tyrant. People who try to revolutionize always end up being worse than what they deposed. I would rather have been buddies with Nicholas than Lenin.

[betsy]

How gullible are we?

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=6461

Gee....I'm not sure. Maybe, very?

[Leafless]

All religions have one thing in common and that is, followers of any religion have the RIGHT to believe in their God, WITHOUT LOGICAL PROOF.

Old time religions were OLD TIME POLITICS and just another way to control the masses and Islam for example even though we are in 2006, still remains an ancient, primitive and very convincing religion concerning its followers, especially in Arab countries.

You can not confuse modern harmless domesticated Christian religions with Mohammad religions. Islam for example is a volatile, extreme example of an OLD TIME RELIGION followed by the many Muslim extremist out of pure outright ignorance.

Islam is more volatile than Christianity?

Did you forget that God is the one who told Bush to invade Iraq and Afghanistan?

I'm not going to get into a pissing match about which religion can claim more 'kills', the fact of the matter is that both have been horribly violent and continue to do so.

Of course Islam is more harmful and volatile than Christianity.

What George W. Bush said about making reference to God was part of an impassioned attack on Islamic militants. What exactly would have you liked to hear Mr. Bush say 'America wants to get those rebel rousing Islamic militants'.

No, of course not.

President Bush chose God to impress a distinction between 'good and evil'.

BTW- If all this boils down to a power struggle concerning 'a clash of civilizations' I'll chose and support the West any day especially being in the position of the world's 'top cop'.

It seems you support groups hanging headless bodies out to dry.

[margrace]

How gullible are we?

http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=6461

Gee....I'm not sure. Maybe, very?

Exactly how gullibal are we? Did you beleive that one or not or did you decide as I did that it may have happened once or twice but not in any great numbers and someone has taken a good story and run with it.

The same as Constantine did with the New Testament, gave him a great way to control a lot of people. Is there a God?

[margrace]

Christianity and Mohammedism are all one item. The sell themselves to the gullible. It is being used by both religions to sell their particular brand of control. Chiristainity cannot control as much in North America except in the deep south and central America where a lot of people are dirt poor.

Mahammadism has a much furtile field to work on.

Is There a God?

[DarkAngel_]

well lets see...

GOD IS DEAD!!!

i once believed the wind helped me do my homework...

what religion needs is a more personalized existance, if not then well i'm moving to the omega-11 system, good chip dip... hersay? well ask a mad men if he would blindly kill in his madness, and i'm sure he'd try to kill,

anybody feel an emotional response from reading that in bold letters above? well thats genrally what makes madmen, i say we personalize our belief and use it to find truth.

ask a terrorist this: "after you convert the world, what then?" they think they know truth, if you ask me they are too young to be the world dominator, they even want eachother dead... pathetic...

other then that, i feel sorry for them, got the @$$-end of every deal.