fellowtraveller Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 the Liberals win a majority in the next election? It is quite possible that the Libs could sweep Ontario, pick up a few more seats in Quebec and the Maritimes. I wonder if our country is already so polarized that the regions will be driven even further apart by a Liberal win? By 'uniting' the country, could a wedge be driven so deeply that the separatists in Quebec and Alberta gain some serious ground? Quote The government should do something.
mikedavid00 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 the Liberals win a majority in the next election?It is quite possible that the Libs could sweep Ontario, Firstly it's not possible. Rather it's impossible. And if they did get a majority, there would party in fighting, then our country would slip into second world status as we loose G8. People would loose their homes and cars. Interest rates would rise, 500,000 immigrants would come in each year, and this would be a completely disfunctional country. Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). And I would do my best to get out of here. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
M.Dancer Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 the Liberals win a majority in the next election?It is quite possible that the Libs could sweep Ontario, pick up a few more seats in Quebec and the Maritimes. I wonder if our country is already so polarized that the regions will be driven even further apart by a Liberal win? By 'uniting' the country, could a wedge be driven so deeply that the separatists in Quebec and Alberta gain some serious ground? It would be quite the long shot and the canny gambler would win big. The Liberals have quite a few fences to mend before the trust they once took for granted will be given again. And once they have regained that trust, your questions will be moot. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
hiti Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Separatists in Alberta number in the hundreds. They are a dying breed whose time has come and gone. Even the Tory party in Alberta is on the decline and it will not be replaced by the likes of an Alberta Alliance. This fact was proven in the election for Premier when some 50,000 plus plunked down $5 to make sure that Morton did not win. These weren't Tories either. I suspect the Liberal vote in Alberta in the next federal election to go up significantly. Cons didn't do so well in BC either last election and that decline should be greater in the next. I suspect that Cons in Saskatchewan and Manitoba will decline as well. Especially since Steve and Chuckie are trying to sc**w the farmers over on their grain marketing. T'will be sweet. Quote "You cannot bring your Western standards to Afghanistan and expect them to work. This is a different society and a different culture." -Hamid Karzai, President of Afghanistan June 23/07
Figleaf Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Dissatisfaction with Tory mis-steps and Dion's integrity and good sense are signs that the Liberals could indeed win a majority next time. The last poll I saw had the Liberals ahead in every province except Quebec and Alberta. Based on that, it seems Canadians outside of those provinces are looking for a government that represents the whole country and not just a geographic interest group. Quote
guyser Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 the Liberals win a majority in the next election? It is quite possible that the Libs could sweep Ontario, Firstly it's not possible. Rather it's impossible. And if they did get a majority, there would party in fighting, then our country would slip into second world status as we loose G8. People would loose their homes and cars. Interest rates would rise, 500,000 immigrants would come in each year, and this would be a completely disfunctional country. Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). And I would do my best to get out of here. I would help you pack, but your scenario is so outrageous it wont come to fruition. Quote
Figleaf Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). Last I heard, Canadian provinces are not for sale. Quote
mikedavid00 Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Dissatisfaction with Tory mis-steps and Dion's integrity and good sense are signs that the Liberals could indeed win a majority next time. I don't know how you can make that statement and consider yourself politically savy. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
Black Dog Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Firstly it's not possible. Rather it's impossible. And if they did get a majority, there would party in fighting, then our country would slip into second world status as we loose G8. People would loose their homes and cars. Interest rates would rise, 500,000 immigrants would come in each year, and this would be a completely disfunctional country. Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). And I would do my best to get out of here. All that from one election? Wow. Wait. Sorry. I meant: Quote
blueblood Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 Separatists in Alberta number in the hundreds. They are a dying breed whose time has come and gone. Even the Tory party in Alberta is on the decline and it will not be replaced by the likes of an Alberta Alliance. This fact was proven in the election for Premier when some 50,000 plus plunked down $5 to make sure that Morton did not win. These weren't Tories either. I suspect the Liberal vote in Alberta in the next federal election to go up significantly. Cons didn't do so well in BC either last election and that decline should be greater in the next. I suspect that Cons in Saskatchewan and Manitoba will decline as well. Especially since Steve and Chuckie are trying to sc**w the farmers over on their grain marketing. T'will be sweet. Too bad it'll be snowing in August before a western canadian farmer votes for the liberal party, what Steve and Chuckie did is a mere pittance to what the Liberals have done Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
uOttawaMan Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 I'd move to Ireland to be honest. Quote "To hear many religious people talk, one would think God created the torso, head, legs and arms but the devil slapped on the genitals.” -Don Schrader
geoffrey Posted December 13, 2006 Report Posted December 13, 2006 I suspect the Liberal vote in Alberta in the next federal election to go up significantly. You've obviously never been here. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
mikedavid00 Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 All that from one election? Well no one wants to face the fact that we are in a social services crisis. No one realises that we don't have enough money to fix our own healthcare system. A poltician is not about to tell you all this. People have been engireered in Canada to look up to a dictator that will solve problems. This has been proven not to work. Canada has not always been a social country. The 1970's and onward was the birth of social engineering and it's fooled everyone here. Facts are, we are spending at our limits right now and are not able to provide pensions or healthcare for our seniors. Canada has also become politically currupt. We have a disfunctional parlimentary style of gov't which is proving more than ever not to work. Our politicians are not about having policy to fix these problems, but rather getting elected and staying in power. The Liberal party is the most succsful political franchis in modern history of first world countries. This is actually a BAD thing because when this happens it leans to a dictorship style of gov't. We are at our limits now. Reports have just come out saying that Canada is lagging behind the rest of the world in growth. We will lose our G8 status if somethhing isn't done. So much for immigration eh? We let in millions of people and we aren't growing as compared to other country who let in not even a fraction of people per capita. Why? Because *modern* immigration is not working. It's not functioning and it doesn't work. A point system is something almost NO other country does. Thus, we are getting people who are coming not to open business and hire Canadians (like my grandfather did), but we are letting in people who are primamary interested in living an easy life with social services and healthcare. As long as these people vote Liberal, they believe they will keep coming into Canada. Then suprise suprise, before the last election Volpe wanted to increase the number to 500,000 people.. and.. guess what.. try to figure out a way to get them to settle in other provinces like? Like where? Like... wait for it.. ALBERTA! Gee I WONDER WHY? This sort of political corruption is killing us. This country can't be about Trudeau. His dreams and hopes is that of idealisms - not reality. And each one of you are fooled. Our net is full and it's about to burst. Make no mistake. If they get back in power, I see a 12% GST because we'll have to spend so much on the environment and other social services. I see terrorism, I see an 'Alberta tax' that will basically tax oil refiners in the name of 'emmisions'. I see the Liberals getting elected and re-ellected and Alberat getting *swamped* with immigrants that will vote Liberal. Or, Alberta seperation will become a topic again and they may hold a refurendum becuase people are losing their houses, jobs, cars, and livelyhood. I see our dollar value plumeting. I see Belinda trying to take over power in the liberal party. And I see univeral childcare which will cost us so much we'll need to be taxed even more. You have to understand, Chretien made the largest cuts to transfer payments in history. This is beyond conservative principles. He forced the provinces to close hospitals. But the dude was fiscally responsible. Martin owned a business, he understood how to balance books and manage money. Now we're talking about Ignatieff, Dion, and other non experienced intillectuals who are driven off 'idealisms' and are not in the reality that Martin was in. Chretien and Martin were smart, they were a do nothing gov't that were able to balance the books. Dion, Volpe, Ignatieff and the other clowns are NOT of this breed. That's why I think it will be a disaster. Again, people from Calgary and Edmonton need to know crystal clear, that if they Liberals are elected, they WILL be seing possibly TEN THOUSAND immigrants and refugees entering into Calgary each month. ** In 5 years, they will not recognize their own province. And guess what, Alberta will slowely but surely become Libearl. Suprise Suprise. This is NOT a healthy way to govern a country and will lead to our destruction. (** Refers to a program that was talked about where immigrants would be processed faster if they agreed to settle in other provinces. Alberta/Sask was at the top of the list.) Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
B. Max Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 I suspect the Liberal vote in Alberta in the next federal election to go up significantly. Cons didn't do so well in BC either last election and that decline should be greater in the next. T'will be sweet. Yeah up the creek where it usually is. Quote
madmax Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 the Liberals win a majority in the next election?It is quite possible that the Libs could sweep Ontario, pick up a few more seats in Quebec and the Maritimes. I wonder if our country is already so polarized that the regions will be driven even further apart by a Liberal win? By 'uniting' the country, could a wedge be driven so deeply that the separatists in Quebec and Alberta gain some serious ground? I would be very surprised if the liberals could sweep Ontario come an election in 2007. Quote
AndrewL Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). If that happened i would buy a gun, learn how to make IEDs, and begin planning a guerrilla war against anybody who tried to do such a thing. Andrew Quote
JerrySeinfeld Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). Last I heard, Canadian provinces are not for sale. You haven't heard of Quebec? Quote
AndrewL Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 Alberta would threaten to seperate to the US (becuase more than half of people polled said that it's an issue worth examing). Last I heard, Canadian provinces are not for sale. You haven't heard of Quebec? They are a nation first, a province second. Apparently. Andrew Quote
Figleaf Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 Dissatisfaction with Tory mis-steps and Dion's integrity and good sense are signs that the Liberals could indeed win a majority next time. I don't know how you can make that statement and consider yourself politically savy. Yeah, but there's likely a whole lot of other things you don't know as well. Quote
Figleaf Posted December 14, 2006 Report Posted December 14, 2006 No one realises that we don't have enough money to fix our own healthcare system. A poltician is not about to tell you all this. And what expertise makes you so sure it's impossible? ... we are spending at our limits right now and are not able to provide pensions ... The CPP is adequately funded. The Liberal party is the most succsful political franchis in modern history of first world countries. This is actually a BAD thing because when this happens it leans to a dictorship style of gov't. Sort of like people say about the provincial government of Alberta, except less of course. But really, if people keep voting the same way in fair elections, who is to say they're not right? We are at our limits now. Reports have just come out saying that Canada is lagging behind the rest of the world in growth. We will lose our G8 status if somethhing isn't done. Source? If they get back in power, I see a 12% GST because we'll have to spend so much on the environment and other social services. I see terrorism, I see an 'Alberta tax' that will basically tax oil refiners in the name of 'emmisions'. I see the Liberals getting elected and re-ellected and Alberat getting *swamped* with immigrants that will vote Liberal. Or, Alberta seperation will become a topic again and they may hold a refurendum becuase people are losing their houses, jobs, cars, and livelyhood. And when does the anti-Christ show up, in this scenario? Again, people from Calgary and Edmonton need to know crystal clear, that if they Liberals are elected, they WILL be seing possibly TEN THOUSAND immigrants and refugees entering into Calgary each month.** Yeah, Belinda will lead them there playing a golden flute. Quote
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