Hydraboss Posted November 23, 2006 Report Posted November 23, 2006 Canadian clinical psychologist warns that Stephen Harper cannot seduce women. Can Harper seduce women? John Ivison, The National Post Published: January 9, 2006 TORONTO and LAMBETH, Ont. - Carolina McBride represents the Holy Grail for the Conservative party. A 36-year-old clinical psychologist and new mother who lives in downtown Toronto, she voted Liberal in 2004 but has been impressed with a number of Tory policies this time around. [snip] When it comes to women voters, Harper is going soft Women's support was 38% last month, suggesting some softening toward Mr. Harper. [snip] Psychologist doesn't like Harper's personality "I don't like Harper's personality. He strikes me as cunning and not trustworthy. I don't like his position on same-sex marriage, I don't think he'd be a good representative for Canada internationally and I don't think he cares if Quebec separates from Canada. [snip] NDP supporter hates Stephen Harper "I hate Stephen Harper with a passion," said Lauren, 23, an NDP supporter from Milton, Ont., who was among four young women from the book publishing industry cornered in a downtown Toronto Starbucks. [snip] Women believe that Harper is only after one thing Unfortunately for the Conservative leader, many women voters still seem to believe that he's only after one thing -- their vote -- and won't respect them the morning after the election. http://www.equalvoice.ca/harper_090106.html I know we're supposed to comment on topics, but I'm almost speachless. This is the National Post telling us this. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
normanchateau Posted November 23, 2006 Report Posted November 23, 2006 When it comes to women voters, Harper is going softWomen's support was 38% last month, suggesting some softening toward Mr. Harper. Any idea where the 38% figure came from. It seems very high. Here are other figures from last month: "Now, the poll suggests, the Liberals have taken the lead in that demographic despite their leaderless status. The Decima Poll was conducted between October 12 and October 16 based on a sample of 1,038 Canadians, with a margin of error of 3.1 per cent, 19 times out of 20. It suggests 34 per cent of female voters support the Liberals, 28 per cent support the Tories, and 16 per cent support the NDP." Source: http://weblogs.ucalgary.ca/ekmullin/blog/2...th_the_xx_crowd Quote
August1991 Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 John Ivison, The National PostPublished: January 9, 2006 Huh? This was published two weeks before the election. Is this news now?I'll admit that there was (and may still be) a gender deficit. Is it Harper the man or Tory policies? Quote
jdobbin Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 Canadian clinical psychologist warns that Stephen Harper cannot seduce women.This is the National Post telling us this. Perhaps if he wears more sweaters women will like him. Quote
jefferiah Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 lol. This is funny. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
jefferiah Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 Maybe we should take a list of people Carolina McBride doesnt like and refuse to acknowledge these people. Quote "Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu
Hydraboss Posted November 24, 2006 Author Report Posted November 24, 2006 August, of course this isn't news. I just figured if we're going to flood the board with mindless, baseless chatter then I might as well start some myself. This "story" has about as much meat to it as the "merging of Canada and the US". Can anyone think of any threads that are about as intelligent? Edit: I'm just going for the coveted "I Hate Harper" award this month. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
Wilber Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 "Now, the poll suggests, the Liberals have taken the lead in that demographic despite their leaderless status. I don't know that being leaderless is much of a disadvantage when it comes to polls. Their opposition has no firm target so the Liberals can be all things to all people until they make a decision and have to put a leader up to scrutiny. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
Higgly Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 The National Toast seems to be getting a little desperate. Next thing they'll be printing nude fold-outs of David Frum and Ann Coulter... Yikes. Quote "We have seen the enemy and he is us!". Pogo (Walt Kelly).
kimmy Posted November 24, 2006 Report Posted November 24, 2006 I don't know that being leaderless is much of a disadvantage when it comes to polls. Their opposition has no firm target so the Liberals can be all things to all people until they make a decision and have to put a leader up to scrutiny. As I said elsewhere, people were probably looking forward to The Phantom Menace or the Edsel... until the actual product arrived. Chosing a leader will give the Liberals a face... but that's not necessarily a good thing. The leader that they actually choose might not be as appealing as what people are imagining the next Liberal leader might be. Some people who support the Liberals might be doing so in the anticipation that Dion might be the next leader and will be disappointed when Ignatieff wins. Or vice versa. Some people who might not be following the race closely might support the Liberals in the belief that they'll choose "somebody good" to lead them and might be disappointed with the outcome no matter who wins. I completely agree that "leaderless" is not the disadvantage that people are making it out to be. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
normanchateau Posted November 25, 2006 Report Posted November 25, 2006 John Ivison, The National PostPublished: January 9, 2006 Huh? This was published two weeks before the election. Is this news now? That explains it. 38% of women supported him in January versus a mere 28% now that they've seen him in action. But then again, he's probably written off woman voters as he has most special interest groups except so-cons and militarists. Quote
Wilber Posted November 25, 2006 Report Posted November 25, 2006 But then again, he's probably written off woman voters as he has most special interest groups except so-cons and militarists. It's just so easy to write people off with labels. Quote "Never trust a man who has not a single redeeming vice". WSC
gerryhatrick Posted November 25, 2006 Report Posted November 25, 2006 I know we're supposed to comment on topics, but I'm almost speachless.This is the National Post telling us this. Any more/less speachless than over this topic: http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index.php?showtopic=7270 ? Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
normanchateau Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 But then again, he's probably written off woman voters as he has most special interest groups except so-cons and militarists. It's just so easy to write people off with labels. As Stephen Harper did when he wrote off those voters whose sexual orientation he disapproved of when he voted to deny them rights that other Canadians enjoy. Quote
geoffrey Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 As Stephen Harper did when he wrote off those voters whose sexual orientation he disapproved of when he voted to deny them rights that other Canadians enjoy. Like when those that supported C-250 voted to eliminate the rights of free expression that other Canadians enjoy? Oh wait, it's only restricting freedom when it's a minority involved. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
normanchateau Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 As Stephen Harper did when he wrote off those voters whose sexual orientation he disapproved of when he voted to deny them rights that other Canadians enjoy. Like when those that supported C-250 voted to eliminate the rights of free expression that other Canadians enjoy? Oh wait, it's only restricting freedom when it's a minority involved. But hate crimes legislation already covers race, ethnicity and religion. Sounds like a majority are alreadsy covered by hate crimes legislation. Or do religious extermists like Harper want to remove religion from that list? Quote
sharkman Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 But then again, he's probably written off woman voters as he has most special interest groups except so-cons and militarists. It's just so easy to write people off with labels. As Stephen Harper did when he wrote off those voters whose sexual orientation he disapproved of when he voted to deny them rights that other Canadians enjoy. The thing is there are some who wear their sexual orientation on their sleeve and there is just no pleasing them, and I think Harper realizes this. Quote
normanchateau Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 But then again, he's probably written off woman voters as he has most special interest groups except so-cons and militarists. It's just so easy to write people off with labels. As Stephen Harper did when he wrote off those voters whose sexual orientation he disapproved of when he voted to deny them rights that other Canadians enjoy. The thing is there are some who wear their sexual orientation on their sleeve and there is just no pleasing them, and I think Harper realizes this. That's my point. Harper has written off many people as special interest groups. There's no pleasing them except for so-cons and militarists. For example, even though 69% of the Canadian population and most political parties favour decriminalization of marijuana rather than permanent criminal records and jail time, Harper has chosen to please the so-cons. Quote
sharkman Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 For example, even though 69% of the Canadian population and most political parties favour decriminalization of marijuana rather than permanent criminal records and jail time, Harper has chosen to please the so-cons. 69%? No doubt a poll conducted by the "Pot Rules" activist group at parties and on the beach. They need to be protected from hurting themselves, just like with booze. But I think I'll bow out of this thread now, you seemed to have found a way to work the discussion off of the actual title and onto your two faves again. Quote
normanchateau Posted November 26, 2006 Report Posted November 26, 2006 For example, even though 69% of the Canadian population and most political parties favour decriminalization of marijuana rather than permanent criminal records and jail time, Harper has chosen to please the so-cons. 69%? No doubt a poll conducted by the "Pot Rules" activist group at parties and on the beach. Actually it was SES Research in February, 2003 which came up with the 69% figure. Here's the link: http://www.sesresearch.com/library/polls/POLNAT-W03-T113.pdf Currently the Liberals and BQ favour decriminalization. The Green Party favours outright legalization. And the NDP seems to waver between decriminalization and legalization. But Harper has chosen to please his so-con constituency. This certainly won't win him seats in the cities where the percentage favouring decriminalization is higher than the 69% nation-wide figure. Quote
Hydraboss Posted February 23, 2008 Author Report Posted February 23, 2008 So we're back to dredging up old press releases? Okay. Has anyone's opinion (of the female persuasion) changed for the good or bad with regards to Harper the Liberal? Just curious. Quote "racist, intolerant, small-minded bigot" - AND APPARENTLY A SOCIALIST (2010) (2015)Economic Left/Right: 8.38 3.38 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: 3.13 -1.23
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