How do you know who got banned?

[Cameron]

Craig Read had an interesting point of view. He was a conservative that's for sure. You can see that in his web page. He did have a tendency to be abusive to other members when there was a discussion going on, and that was the reason why he was banned. It's an unfortunate consequence but he didn't abide by the rules. But above and beyond that he has an interesting point of view, one that I enjoyed.

Why did I ever click that link? I had just about fully recovered from the mass brain cell suicide that occurred everytime I endured that twerp's garbage and now...alas. I've only myself to blame.

Black Dog, if you didn't like his page you didn't have to visit. Making posts like this just shows that you are chauvinistic and pompous, a person merely looking for attention. If you don't like it, don't read it or at leased try and make an intelligent post.

[ft.niagara]

You can see that in his web page. He did have a tendency to be abusive to other members when there was a discussion going on, and that was the reason why he was banned. It's an unfortunate consequence but he didn't abide by the rules.

I am curious, how was he abusive. Did he call someone an idiot, or stupid. Part of his language would also follow the context of the conversation. What was the language of the other poster?

My concern is only that a Black Dog complained to Greg over and over, and Puff, Gone.

[RB]

Well, to clarify my previous post on this thread.

Firstly, as an observer and contributor of this forum, I didn't often agree with Mr Read's politics but I respected that he had a different take on issues. He was motivated, and eager like the politicians, and especially at times rather very creative in his thoughts, in his fluency of writing and imagery. I mean it forced curiosity and stimulated discussions.

Plus he seem to be widely read i.e could easily expand ideas, was intellectual.

I also felt that he respected others in the forum. Well he must have read the majority of contributions at that time because he had an opinion in many areas and he replied to as many posts.

Read always insisted that he mostly attack ideas put forward by others and I agree with him. I find that the folks become very sensitive when they spend their enormous amounts of time to articulate their points only to have it shaken apart. I guess some of us weaver easily.

Anyway, I felt the posting war we don't want at Mapleleaf. I mean its human nature and all, people feel like they are being attack, then they denounce and blame someone else for their lack of tact and exposing to them to say "new information", and further reducing the attack folks to live dangerously.

What I can say though is I am of the opinion that Read was sincere in his politics, his write-ups and in what he contributed here however radical or "right" he may have been. That's all.

[ft.niagara]

Anyway, I felt the posting war we don't want at Mapleleaf. I mean its human nature and all, people feel like they are being attack, then they denounce and blame someone else for their lack of tact and exposing to them to say "new information", and further reducing the attack folks to live dangerously.

RB, thank you for your thoughtful writeup. I think I understood everything except the above paragraph. Was he responsable for his own fate, or was he a victim of his political persuasion. I guess that is the question. It sounds like he was a powerful and intelligent poster. Perhaps too much so.

[geoffrey]

I have seen many posters come and be banned. Sometimes reasonable posters get banned for 'posting while drunk' others get band because they cannot have a discussion without resorting to personal insults.

I can get banned for posting while drunk?

[Riverwind]

I can get banned for posting while drunk?

Depends if you are the type of person that shoots your mouth off when you drink ;-) I am referring to otherwise reasonable posters that suddenly go ballistic (e.g. Monty Burns). I am guessing that 'posting while drunk' might have been a factor.

[Canuck E Stan]

I can get banned for posting while drunk?

Yes,so make sure you don't post and drink.....Greg of the MLW posting police may ask you to take a breathalyzer by blowing into your microphone or ask you read two threads on the same topic at the same time.

Or the worst test .....

reading the rules without slurring you words or hurting your brain.

So, best not post and drink(excessively).

Remember : Getting Banned, it can happen to you.....even if the other guy deserves it more.

[RB]

Anyway, I felt the posting war we don't want at Mapleleaf. I mean its human nature and all, people feel like they are being attack, then they denounce and blame someone else for their lack of tact and exposing to them to say "new information", and further reducing the attack folks to live dangerously.

RB, thank you for your thoughtful writeup. I think I understood everything except the above paragraph. Was he responsable for his own fate, or was he a victim of his political persuasion. I guess that is the question. It sounds like he was a powerful and intelligent poster. Perhaps too much so.

The war comment is a simplistic view of how war get started such as a war in Iraq

Anyway, there are the forum rules.

Then there are subtle demands (unwritten):

- can you be modish? while complaisant? while relentless?

Then the other questions are:

- can you debate

- find that usual finesse

- can you separate what is simple, singular or extraordinary from dross

- concur with others when assailed

- respect yourself and others, like take responsibility for brazen behaviour (includes posting while drunk)

Or of course you get to decide:

- I wish to be an irascible "man" who flies into a temper

- I can take on the mob and exacerbate an issue to a zenth level.

well, there are the forum rules ... and it is enforceable, there is a banned feature.

I can't answer why Mr Read was banned, perhaps it lies in the subtle demand.... any other questions, ... you decide

Thanks

[ft.niagara]

Then there are subtle demands (unwritten):

- can you be modish? while complaisant? while relentless?

I can't answer why Mr Read was banned, perhaps it lies in the subtle demand.... any other questions, ... you decide

You remind me of Nostradamus (SP?), your writing is like a puzzle. Was Craig Read modish? while complaisant? while relentless? If he was, was that a good thing or a bad thing?

[RB]

Then there are subtle demands (unwritten):

- can you be modish? while complaisant? while relentless?

I can't answer why Mr Read was banned, perhaps it lies in the subtle demand.... any other questions, ... you decide

You remind me of Nostradamus (SP?), your writing is like a puzzle. Was Craig Read modish? while complaisant? while relentless? If he was, was that a good thing or a bad thing?

Well an enthusiast he was for sure. (a good thing)

I can certainly compliment a man for his commanding style of writing. Argus has a similar style..intimidating and forceful. (a good thing).

But, also I have observed that those who follow through with their points do not need to inquire of others what they should say, because they already represent what/who they are. It is reflected in the opinions, their research, the assemble of facts, the links provide etc. (a good thing)

Good thing, I am done with compliments to Mr Read.

Some of us just cannot see what is action, until it is done. (bad, very bad)

So now for the homage, it takes more wariness in my private estimates to write on disappointment - i mean how can one blame "failure to follow rules" to overshadow interaction with a fine person.

Cheers

[ft.niagara]

So now for the homage, it takes more wariness in my private estimates to write on disappointment - i mean how can one blame "failure to follow rules" to overshadow interaction with a fine person.

Cheers

Again, I say that your writing is almost poetic.

[geoffrey]

I can get banned for posting while drunk?

Depends if you are the type of person that shoots your mouth off when you drink ;-) I am referring to otherwise reasonable posters that suddenly go ballistic (e.g. Monty Burns). I am guessing that 'posting while drunk' might have been a factor.

Hmm. I tend to turn more Liberal I think. Depends if I'm having a nice glass of wine or a beer I guess.

[Greg]

My concern is only that a Black Dog complained to Greg over and over, and Puff, Gone.

That isn't how it went down, Craig Read and I disagreed over the nature of the rules and he was removed. There wasn't a specific incident that lead to his removal, but rather a series of oversights on his part.

Why do you care so much about Craig Read and something that happened over 2 years ago?

[RB]

My concern is only that a Black Dog complained to Greg over and over, and Puff, Gone.

That isn't how it went down, Craig Read and I disagreed over the nature of the rules and he was removed. There wasn't a specific incident that lead to his removal, but rather a series of oversights on his part.

Why do you care so much about Craig Read and something that happened over 2 years ago?

A ban is a ban and respected.

The forum demands you defend and respond to what you post.

I don't think there are too many proud Canadians around who can spout about political ideologies, opinions, & stuff without fear.

I mean folks are always cautious to be politically correct, and also have to defend what is politically correct.

I am not sure if we wrote to Read via his website he would feel such a pressure to respond as he might when he contributed in the forum.

[ft.niagara]

My concern is only that a Black Dog complained to Greg over and over, and Puff, Gone.

That isn't how it went down, Craig Read and I disagreed over the nature of the rules and he was removed. There wasn't a specific incident that lead to his removal, but rather a series of oversights on his part.

Why do you care so much about Craig Read and something that happened over 2 years ago?

Cameron "Craig Read, by far the person I miss the most from this forum. He was posting back when there was 250 members and this place was like Club54...a neat little group." RB also said that he was her favorite. Black Dog said CR offended his brain cells.

The point is CR was passionate, intelligent, and may have been one of the best posters ever. Black Dog's negative comment was not only negative, it was painfully negative. If only for that reason, I miss not having experienced him.