Ricki Bobbi Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Thanks for the information and the compliment. I know almost nothing about Canada, but am learning a bit here. Remember, we have fixed election dates, so there is no precipitating event the way there is in countries with the Westminister system. Canadians don't really have much recent experience with minority governments. The last time a minority government fell with the government actually controlling the timing of the election was 1974. Trudeau won a fair-sized majority after that. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
Jerry J. Fortin Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 We are about to get used to this form of government.......... Quote
Ricki Bobbi Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 We are about to get used to this form of government.......... The most consecutive minorities we have had in history is three. If the spring produces another minority I think we will definitely see some changes for the following election. Another minority and Harper probably resigns (win or lose) without a doubt if he loses. Whoever the new Conservative leader is will definitely not be as polarazing as Harper. MacKay? the Stronach thing hurts him and the sellout of the PCs doesn't help but he is moderate. Something tells me MacKay would lead the party to slaughter. Prentice? The only real strike against him is he is Albertan. Moderate on social issues, good resume, decent French. An honest, good man. Bernard Lord? His ship has probably sailed, but he could win a general big time. Can anyone think of a potential conserative leader who would be more polarazing than Harper? Two kicks at a minority government and an election with a new leader might be enough to allow people to trust the Conservatives with a majority. ***IF*** we don't win a majority in the spring. Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
blueblood Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 We are about to get used to this form of government.......... The most consecutive minorities we have had in history is three. If the spring produces another minority I think we will definitely see some changes for the following election. Another minority and Harper probably resigns (win or lose) without a doubt if he loses. Whoever the new Conservative leader is will definitely not be as polarazing as Harper. MacKay? the Stronach thing hurts him and the sellout of the PCs doesn't help but he is moderate. Something tells me MacKay would lead the party to slaughter. Prentice? The only real strike against him is he is Albertan. Moderate on social issues, good resume, decent French. An honest, good man. Bernard Lord? His ship has probably sailed, but he could win a general big time. Can anyone think of a potential conserative leader who would be more polarazing than Harper? Two kicks at a minority government and an election with a new leader might be enough to allow people to trust the Conservatives with a majority. ***IF*** we don't win a majority in the spring. Well I'm just gonna throw this up in the air, but I have two choices but they are biased just because they are my favorite politicians. I see a leader of a party who demonstrates good leadership skills, can take a peppering from the press and other MP's and has good charisma. Choice 1. Danny Williams, the premier of N.L. Stands up for the little guy, which is an image the tories could use, has a sky high approval rating in his province and is doing a good job as premier, won't back down from a fight which is good because we shouldn't have pushovers running things, and an amazing public speaker, i think he'd attract some left wing votes due to some of his policies, i don't know how his french is though, also he likes running his province and i think that might be as far as he wants to go. Choice 2. John Baird. This guy is a very good public speaker, quick witted (harper knows he won't flub up during question period and interviews with the press), and displays good leadership qualities, i think he commands a lot of respect in the party, i don't think he's as extreme as the other MP's on moral issues, his french seems good, his record seems good, being from ontario might help out too. I am biased towards outspoken politicians though, they are the kind of people who would rather get the job done than worry what people think of them, and to me thats what a true leader is. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
gc1765 Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Bernard Lord? His ship has probably sailed, but he could win a general big time. Bernard Lord seems to be a pretty popular guy. I don't know much about him, but he seems alright based on the little that I know about him. He's young, he's experienced...I think he would have a good chance at winning if he was leader. What is he doing now that he lost the election? Jim Prentice might be a good choice for them too. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Ricki Bobbi Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Bernard Lord seems to be a pretty popular guy. I don't know much about him, but he seems alright based on the little that I know about him. He's young, he's experienced...I think he would have a good chance at winning if he was leader.What is he doing now that he lost the election? Jim Prentice might be a good choice for them too. Lord is still leader of the opposition and an MLA in New Brunswick. Danny Williams as leader? Hmmmmm, don't think his French is so good. Not sure if his level of 'outspokenness' has endeared him to many within the Federal party... Prentice would be a great choice. While the Liberals can have consecutive PMs from Ontario are Canadians really open-minded enough to have consecutive Conservative PMs from Calgary? Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
blueblood Posted October 30, 2006 Report Posted October 30, 2006 Bernard Lord seems to be a pretty popular guy. I don't know much about him, but he seems alright based on the little that I know about him. He's young, he's experienced...I think he would have a good chance at winning if he was leader. What is he doing now that he lost the election? Jim Prentice might be a good choice for them too. Lord is still leader of the opposition and an MLA in New Brunswick. Danny Williams as leader? Hmmmmm, don't think his French is so good. Not sure if his level of 'outspokenness' has endeared him to many within the Federal party... Prentice would be a great choice. While the Liberals can have consecutive PMs from Ontario are Canadians really open-minded enough to have consecutive Conservative PMs from Calgary? what about Baird? Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
Ricki Bobbi Posted October 31, 2006 Report Posted October 31, 2006 what about Baird? I guess. He has done a decent job at the Treasury Board. When a race comes the more the merrier. Just not as long as this Liberal race. My gawd, another month... Quote Dion is a verbose, mild-mannered academic with a shaky grasp of English who seems unfit to chair a university department, much less lead a country. Randall Denley, Ottawa Citizen
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