Liberals Using sexist Card via Stronach

[jefferiah]

I certainly think Peter Mckay should have watched his tongue about Stronach. Calling her a dog is not good PR for the Conservatives. But I also think the liberal reaction was sort of out of this world. And its things like this that make me leary about supporting liberals. Somehow calling Belinda Stronach a dog became the ultimate sexist remark in the liberals minds. It was even equated with "discouraging women from entering politics in the future". Something of that nature. McKay called Stronach a dog, not all women. As far as I know, there are alot of people who don't like Stronach out there, and most of them are not her ex-boyfriend. I think the luberals should stick to the real reason for demanding an apology. Belinda Stronach was offended by being called a dog, not all women. How does this really relate to all women? And when the media gave a little attention to her affair with Tie Domi (and it wasnt all that much really), which you have to expect since she is a public figure, she said that was sexism too. Isn't that a little bit ridiculous?

[scribblet]

I'm a bit taken aback at the ferocity of their attacks, surely there are more important issues than an inference to a dog - and it was only that, he actually didn't call her a dog. Guess they kind find much else to bark about. Either way, she should go back to her kennel and lie down.

[B. Max]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

[Leafless]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

McKay should have all along played it smart and only date waitresses.

[Drea]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

Why?

Did Belinda screw a bunch of men?

Was it reported in the news?

Does your wife know Miss Stronach personally?

Or was she simply parroting YOUR views?

She wants to be a good li' wife afterall, and you gotta be a big strong leader kinda guy

Hmmmmmm....

[B. Max]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

Why?

Did Belinda screw a bunch of men?

Was it reported in the news?

Does your wife know Miss Stronach personally?

Or was she simply parroting YOUR views?

She wants to be a good li' wife afterall, and you gotta be a big strong leader kinda guy

Hmmmmmm....

No I had never made my views known. Personally I had always thought she looked like she make a good lay. Never had any use for as a politician though.

[Drea]

So what made your wife call her a slut then?

Men have crossed the floor and never once have they ever been called a slut or whore.

These are derogatory terms used exclusively to demean women.

Calling a woman a "dog" or inferring that a woman is a "dog" demeans her. When a man says "She's a dog!" he certainly does not mean "what a hardworking woman."

Calling a man a "dog" is different. A guy says "You Dawg!" to another guy -- means he's soo totally cool and has done something the guy #1 admires.

Big difference.

[jefferiah]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

Why?

Did Belinda screw a bunch of men?

Was it reported in the news?

Does your wife know Miss Stronach personally?

Or was she simply parroting YOUR views?

She wants to be a good li' wife afterall, and you gotta be a big strong leader kinda guy

Hmmmmmm....

This is just another example of the same kind of thing Drea. B. Max says his wife called her a slut and automatically you assume B. Max is a dominating husband and she is saying this as a submissive wife. This is what I cant stand about liberals. They turn everything and everyone who disagrees with them into "a bible-thumping nazi, women hating fascist." Its ridiculous!

[jefferiah]

So what made your wife call her a slut then?

Men have crossed the floor and never once have they ever been called a slut or whore.

These are derogatory terms used exclusively to demean women.

Calling a woman a "dog" or inferring that a woman is a "dog" demeans her. When a man says "She's a dog!" he certainly does not mean "what a hardworking woman."

Calling a man a "dog" is different. A guy says "You Dawg!" to another guy -- means he's soo totally cool and has done something the guy #1 admires.

Big difference.

The term dog may be demeaning, but he meant it toward Belinda Stronach. If it wasnt insulting it would not be a very effective insult would it. But because it applies to a woman, does not mean he meant it for all women. He meant it for her. Its not demeaning to women. It's demeaning to Stronach. That't it, that's all. Do you really think he meant to say "Belinda Stronach as the divine representative of all feminity is a dog therefore all women are dogs and should not be in politics." Give me a break. He doesnt like Stronach. Alot of people dont.

[jefferiah]

The term Jerk is used mostly exclusively for males. I have never heard someone call a girl a "Jerk". But when a woman uses the demeaning term "Jerk" to describe a man, no one says it's sexist. Because calling a man a jerk does not mean you are calling all men jerks, or generalizing about men, right. Same with dog. Even though the insult may apply to women only, Drea, it doesnt make it sexist.

[B. Max]

So what made your wife call her a slut then?

Men have crossed the floor and never once have they ever been called a slut or whore.

These are derogatory terms used exclusively to demean women.

Calling a woman a "dog" or inferring that a woman is a "dog" demeans her. When a man says "She's a dog!" he certainly does not mean "what a hardworking woman."

Calling a man a "dog" is different. A guy says "You Dawg!" to another guy -- means he's soo totally cool and has done something the guy #1 admires.

Big difference.

Well there is a big difference between men and women. Women are emotional creatures and can be very vindictive towards other women for various reasons I guess. My wife seemed to think that see screwed her way to were she is today. I would say there is reason to believe that by the way she has shopped her self around.

[Drea]

So what made your wife call her a slut then?

Men have crossed the floor and never once have they ever been called a slut or whore.

These are derogatory terms used exclusively to demean women.

Calling a woman a "dog" or inferring that a woman is a "dog" demeans her. When a man says "She's a dog!" he certainly does not mean "what a hardworking woman."

Calling a man a "dog" is different. A guy says "You Dawg!" to another guy -- means he's soo totally cool and has done something the guy #1 admires.

Big difference.

Well there is a big difference between men and women. Women are emotional creatures and can be very vindictive towards other women for various reasons I guess. My wife seemed to think that see screwed her way to were she is today. I would say there is reason to believe that by the way she has shopped her self around.

Aha! Your wife was jealous.

Shopped herself around? What does that mean?

Your conservative wife is jealous of this educated, intelligent, articulate, good looking woman.

Rightly so, considering you'd like to sleep with her. Maybe you called out "Bellliinda!" in your sleep one night

I have never in my life been vindictive. Of course I was smart, like Belinda, and "shopped around" rather than desperately marrying the first man who paid attention to me. I've never had reason to be vindictive toward another woman -- I've never worried that my husband would want someone more intellectual to talk to (the sexretary syndrom) as have so many wives and mothers who have lost their "personhood" to marriage. You are all she's got so she guards it jealously.

[Ricki Bobbi]

\I've never worried that my husband would want someone more intellectual to talk to (the sexretary syndrom) as have so many wives and mothers who have lost their "personhood" to marriage. You are all she's got so she guards it jealously.

OMG that is just hateful and mean. You actually presume to judge the quality of B. Max's marriage by what he posts on this board? A little perspetive ... please.

[B. Max]

Shopped herself around? What does that mean?

Your conservative wife is jealous of this educated, intelligent, articulate, good looking woman.

Rightly so, considering you'd like to sleep with her. Maybe you called out "Bellliinda!" in your sleep one night

Shopped herself around is self explanatory. My wife is anything but jealous, nor am I infatuated with Belinda in any way. Just because I said she looked like a good lay wouldn't put her at the top of any such list.

[Drea]

It was not meant to be hateful and mean.

I have ONE child. I will not be able to have another. My relationship with him I guard jealously.... well maybe not jealously... but NOTHING is more important to me.

So, for the wife with no career, her husband and children are all she has. If my hubby decided to split, I would be a-okay. Would a stay at home mom and wife? No. So therefore she guards her husband jealously. Any women (especially those he works with daily) become suspect.

Shopping around means finding the RIGHT mate. And yah, of course yah gotta try on the shoes before you buy them!

[B. Max]

Shopping around means finding the RIGHT mate. And yah, of course yah gotta try on the shoes before you buy them!

Is that like why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free.

[jdobbin]

I certainly think Peter Mckay should have watched his tongue about Stronach. Calling her a dog is not good PR for the Conservatives. But I also think the liberal reaction was sort of out of this world. And its things like this that make me leary about supporting liberals. Somehow calling Belinda Stronach a dog became the ultimate sexist remark in the liberals minds. It was even equated with "discouraging women from entering politics in the future". Something of that nature. McKay called Stronach a dog, not all women. As far as I know, there are alot of people who don't like Stronach out there, and most of them are not her ex-boyfriend. I think the luberals should stick to the real reason for demanding an apology. Belinda Stronach was offended by being called a dog, not all women. How does this really relate to all women? And when the media gave a little attention to her affair with Tie Domi (and it wasnt all that much really), which you have to expect since she is a public figure, she said that was sexism too. Isn't that a little bit ridiculous?

It is the consistent character assassination on Stronach that has gotten people's back's up. The affair you mention is another example. Domi's wife used it as a negotiating tactic in a settlement. She didn't have to offer any evidence.

Sexist and boorish comments have marked the Conservatives on Stronach for some time. They need to get over her.

[Drea]

Get with the program.

Look at your calendar. It is 2006.

Women have been sexually free for a while now. Do you know that women enjoy sex? That a man isn't the only one who has sex for the sake of the orgasm? That women like me have used men for sex, woke up the next day and never wanted to see him again. That we've dumped men based on lousy sex alone.

Sweetheart men and women are equal in this day and age. I get the popsicle without paying a dime!

[Ricki Bobbi]

Sexist and boorish comments have marked the Conservatives on Stronach for some time. They need to get over her.

Only in your eyes, and the anti-Harper crowd. Any actual evidence of Conservative 'sexist and boorish' comments anytime in the past year?

If all you can come up with is MacKay's oblique reference it shows the weakness of your argument.

I ask for evidence because memory is a beautiful thing. We tend to remember things the way we like them. Perhaps searching for the evidence will jog your memory to the truth ..... naw probably not.

[Guest Warwick Green]

I'm a bit taken aback at the ferocity of their attacks, surely there are more important issues than an inference to a dog - and it was only that, he actually didn't call her a dog. Guess they kind find much else to bark about. Either way, she should go back to her kennel and lie down.

I guess in the eyes of one hockey player she is a hot dog.

The way she jumped put of Peter's bed and sold herself for a Cabinet post in the Lib government means she won't get any sympathy from me.

[gerryhatrick]

I'm a bit taken aback at the ferocity of their attacks, surely there are more important issues than an inference to a dog - and it was only that, he actually didn't call her a dog.

Oh good grief.

Mackay has brought this on himself by not apologizing.

And to demonstrate the silliness of the position you're taking on it I offer this analogy:

I point to my dog and say: "My bitch is in a bad mood today"

You point at your wife and say in response to me: "So is mine"

Now, how much will you protest to your wife that you didn't actually call her a "bitch" while she's righteously chewing your a$$ off?

[jdobbin]

I guess in the eyes of one hockey player she is a hot dog.

The way she jumped put of Peter's bed and sold herself for a Cabinet post in the Lib government means she won't get any sympathy from me.

How about the way MacKay jumped into Harper's bed...uh party, after swearing he'd be true. You give him sympathy for his principled stand?

[admclark]

A couple of months ago my wife referred to her as a slut.

Why?

Did Belinda screw a bunch of men?

Was it reported in the news?

Does your wife know Miss Stronach personally?

Or was she simply parroting YOUR views?

She wants to be a good li' wife afterall, and you gotta be a big strong leader kinda guy

Hmmmmmm....

Geez, I'm getting abit tired of you woman who think that you must try and prove your self better then men!

[B. Max]

I'm a bit taken aback at the ferocity of their attacks, surely there are more important issues than an inference to a dog - and it was only that, he actually didn't call her a dog.

Oh good grief.

Mackay has brought this on himself by not apologizing.

And to demonstrate the silliness of the position you're taking on it I offer this analogy:

I point to my dog and say: "My bitch is in a bad mood today"

You point at your wife and say in response to me: "So is mine"

Now, how much will you protest to your wife that you didn't actually call her a "bitch" while she's righteously chewing your a$$ off?

How about tire biter then.

[admclark]

So what made your wife call her a slut then?

Men have crossed the floor and never once have they ever been called a slut or whore.

These are derogatory terms used exclusively to demean women.

No, they are called traitors, idiots, a$$ holes, etc.