gc1765 Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 Okay, I'll bite: when was he told and by whom was he told and who is it that is saying so? (I'm hoping your not going to say it's Dan Rather who is saying so.) Read the 9/11 commission report. You can find a copy of it Here Here's some select quotes: Clarke has written that on the evening of September 12,President Bush toldhim and some of his staff to explore possible Iraqi links to 9/11. “See if Saddam did this,” Clarke recalls the President telling them.“See if he’s linked in any way.” Responding to a presidential tasking, Clarke’s office sent a memo to Riceon September 18, titled “Survey of Intelligence Information on Any Iraq Involvement in the September 11 Attacks.” Rice’s chief staffer on Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalilzad, concurred in its conclusion that only some anecdotal evidence linked Iraq to al Qaeda.The memo found no “compelling case” that Iraq had either planned or perpetrated the attacks..... .....Arguing that the case for links between Iraq and al Qaeda was weak, the memo pointed out that Bin Ladin resented the secularism of Saddam Hussein’s regime. Finally, the memo said, there was no confirmed reporting on Saddam cooperating with Bin Ladin on unconventional weapons. Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
sharkman Posted October 1, 2006 Author Report Posted October 1, 2006 How exactly would they impeach him right now? He is doing his best to wield dictatorial power over this kind of stuff. He would say, " You can't impeach me, I'm a president during war time, blah, blah, blah... " When exactly did they US make an actual declaration of war, and against whom? You can't declare war on a tactic, and the two actual " wars " are over, so all of his bull about his powers is a load of crap. If any of the Republicans had any spine, -maybe- they could pull it off, but as long as it is coming from anyone but the Republicans, they will just spin more lies and commit more crimes. So he's the dumbest president who's ever been in office, while at the same time outsmarting the Dems at every turn, eh? Whatever. If they had the evidence they would impeach him. They do not, and all the crappy accusations of Bush lying are without merit, otherwise THEY WOULD IMPEACH HIM. And this nonsense of Clarke, he's the guy who had a book to sell and an axe to grind. How come they didn't impeach Bush based on Clarke's testimony ? Because he wasn't the be all and end all on Iraq's activities. There were other organizations in play, and not just American ones. Quote
jdobbin Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 So he's the dumbest president who's ever been in office, while at the same time outsmarting the Dems at every turn, eh? Whatever.If they had the evidence they would impeach him. They do not, and all the crappy accusations of Bush lying are without merit, otherwise THEY WOULD IMPEACH HIM. At the moment, Bush's presidency is basically stuck because of Iraq. Almost every initiative from the White House is being stymied by Republicans who fear the war is hurting their election prospects. Quote
Remiel Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 Besides, don't you need a majority vote in either the Senate or Congress to impeach the President? And, well, the Republicans have a majority in both, so it falls to Republicans to do the right thing, except we know they are incapable of that. After the November mid-term, maybe something will actually start to materialize if the Democrats win a majority. If they don't, I think we can basically kiss U.S. " democracy " good-bye. Quote
Riverwind Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 So he's the dumbest president who's ever been in office, while at the same time outsmarting the Dems at every turn, eh? Whatever.Bush is incompentant when it comes to running a country - getting elected requires a different set of skills. Unfortunately, the democrats in the US seem to be lacking the 'getting elected' skills at this time.If they had the evidence they would impeach him. They do not, and all the crappy accusations of Bush lying are without merit, otherwise THEY WOULD IMPEACH HIM.Incompetance, unfortunately, is not an impeachable office (as we discovered in the Reagan era). Bush has plausable deniability when it comes to whether he deliberately lied or he willfully misintepreted intelligence. The ballot box is the only way to punish Bush and the Republicians. Unfortunately, the Democrats have not been able to present an alternative that appears to be less incompetant leaving Americans no choice but to choose between the idiots in charge now or the idiots who would like to be in charge. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
jdobbin Posted October 1, 2006 Report Posted October 1, 2006 Besides, don't you need a majority vote in either the Senate or Congress to impeach the President? And, well, the Republicans have a majority in both, so it falls to Republicans to do the right thing, except we know they are incapable of that. After the November mid-term, maybe something will actually start to materialize if the Democrats win a majority. If they don't, I think we can basically kiss U.S. " democracy " good-bye. You are correct that an impeachment doesn't come from majority led Congress that is equally culpable for a decision like going to war. Quote
BubberMiley Posted October 2, 2006 Report Posted October 2, 2006 You need control of congress to impeach. Perhaps if the Dems have any balls, they'll ITMFA next year. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
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