Canadian Political Polls

[madmax]

The NDP and Greens are raising at the expense of the CPC. Will those GP votes stay parked for an election or will they naturally go to the NDP, when people realize voting for the Greens is a wasted vote.

I don't believe that any vote is a wasted vote. I don't believe that votes "naturally" go to one party or another. It is my opinion that such thinking is disrespectful towards the electorate.

[Catchme]

The NDP and Greens are raising at the expense of the CPC. Will those GP votes stay parked for an election or will they naturally go to the NDP, when people realize voting for the Greens is a wasted vote.

I don't believe that any vote is a wasted vote. I don't believe that votes "naturally" go to one party or another. It is my opinion that such thinking is disrespectful towards the electorate.

By natural I meant the environmental, and feminists votes.

[jdobbin]

Latest Decima poll. Tories marginally ahead.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/070523/...liberals_growth

The poll gives the Tories 33 per cent support overall, with 31 per cent for the Liberals, 17 per cent NDP, 10 per cent Green and eight per cent favouring the Bloc Quebecois.

The Tories are up 3 points from the last Decima poll, The Liberals stay the same.

Statistical tie says the pollster.

[Michael Bluth]

Confirms the results of the last Strategic Counsel poll.

Conservatives still leading. Liberals can't take a lead no matter what they do.

[jdobbin]

The poll today also shows that there is more room for growth for the Liberal vote than the Tory vote.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...23?hub=Politics

A new poll suggests that while the Conservatives and Liberals remain in a dead heat in political support, the Liberals have more room for growth.

The Decima survey says 80 per cent of voters are decided or leaning to one of the five federal parties, but almost a quarter say the Liberals would be their second choice, while only 18 per cent say the Tories or the NDP would be their second pick.

The poll suggests that 39 per cent of those who support or are leaning to the Conservatives would vote Liberal as a second choice.

[Canuck E Stan]

The poll today also shows that there is more room for growth for the Liberal vote than the Tory vote.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...23?hub=Politics

A new poll suggests that while the Conservatives and Liberals remain in a dead heat in political support, the Liberals have more room for growth.

The Decima survey says 80 per cent of voters are decided or leaning to one of the five federal parties, but almost a quarter say the Liberals would be their second choice, while only 18 per cent say the Tories or the NDP would be their second pick.

The poll suggests that 39 per cent of those who support or are leaning to the Conservatives would vote Liberal as a second choice.

........and the rest of the story that wasn't quoted.

And 35 per cent of those who support the Liberals say they'd go Tory as a second choice.

[jdobbin]

........and the rest of the story that wasn't quoted.

And to repeat what the pollster said: More room for Liberal growth than the Tory vote. If you can find happiness in the lower growth potential than the Liberal vote, by all means.

[Canuck E Stan]

And to repeat what the pollster said: More room for Liberal growth than the Tory vote. If you can find happiness in the lower growth potential than the Liberal vote, by all means.

and let's not forget that he also said.....

Pollster Bruce Anderson said these results suggest that voters aren't solidly partisan.

"While politics in Ottawa sometimes presents the impression of Liberals and Conservatives as each other's mortal enemies, the reality among voters is that they are each other's favourite second choice," said the Decima CEO.

[Michael Bluth]

Stan, quit pointing out the flaws in dobbin's logic.

You know it really gets him upset.

[Vancouver King]

Sounds like a saw off.....but wait, what did the pollster say about where melting NDP support would flow?

"Among those decided or leaning to the NDP, 42% said the Liberals would be second choice, with another 20% prepared to go the Greens. Only 18% of these nominal NDP votes would go to the Tories as second pick".

By a margin of over 2-1, New Democrats voting strategically favor the Liberals over the Conservatives. I suspect similar grim news for Tories among wavering Green voters.

[jdobbin]

and let's not forget that he also said.....

Pollster Bruce Anderson said these results suggest that voters aren't solidly partisan.

I also remember the last time he spoke, he also mentioned that Afghanistan and the environment are issues that the Tories find themselves on the wrong side of the fence.

[Michael Bluth]

Sounds like a saw off.....but wait, what did the pollster say about where melting NDP support would flow?

By a margin of over 2-1, New Democrats voting strategically favor the Liberals over the Conservatives. I suspect similar grim news for Tories among wavering Green voters.

Melting NDP support? Wavering Green voters?

Where do this fallacious adjectives come from?

[jdobbin]

Sounds like a saw off.....but wait, what did the pollster say about where melting NDP support would flow?

"Among those decided or leaning to the NDP, 42% said the Liberals would be second choice, with another 20% prepared to go the Greens. Only 18% of these nominal NDP votes would go to the Tories as second pick".

By a margin of over 2-1, New Democrats voting strategically favor the Liberals over the Conservatives. I suspect similar grim news for Tories among wavering Green voters.

It's what happened to Liberal support in the provincial election. I said early on that when it came to race between the Tories and the Conservatives, Liberal votes went to the NDP candidate.

On the federal level such strategic voting usually goes the Liberal way.

[Vancouver King]

Sounds like a saw off.....but wait, what did the pollster say about where melting NDP support would flow?

By a margin of over 2-1, New Democrats voting strategically favor the Liberals over the Conservatives. I suspect similar grim news for Tories among wavering Green voters.

Melting NDP support? Wavering Green voters?

Where do this fallacious adjectives come from?

The melting will commence when polls during the next election point to a possible Conservative majority.

[jdobbin]

The melting will commence when polls during the next election point to a possible Conservative majority.

I don't think there is a pollster who have commented in recent weeks who didn't think that some of electorate are parking their votes with the NDP until the election.

[Michael Bluth]

The melting will commence when polls during the next election point to a possible Conservative majority.

So you expect to see at least a 7 point rise in the Conservatives level of support from current levels at some point during the next election?

I think you are probably correct, just didn't expect to hear it from you.

[Vancouver King]

The melting will commence when polls during the next election point to a possible Conservative majority.

So you expect to see at least a 7 point rise in the Conservatives level of support from current levels at some point during the next election?

I think you are probably correct, just didn't expect to hear it from you.

A rare slip; substitute the word "if" for "when". By the way my vote might end up with Liberals, Greens or with the godless socialists.

[Michael Bluth]

A rare slip; substitute the word "if" for "when". By the way my vote might end up with Liberals, Greens or with the godless socialists.

So you are admitting your characterization of "melting" NDP support and "wavering" Green support was false? Good for you again.

You mean you will vote anything but Conservative. Never would have guessed that from your posts.

I don't think there is a pollster who have commented in recent weeks who didn't think that some of electorate are parking their votes with the NDP until the election.

What are you trying to say with this? Seriously. Maybe you are tired, or drunk or high. Whatever floats your boat, but it is really tough to follow.

Are you saying that NDP support is artificially high?

They are still lower than they were during the last election.

[gc1765]

Are you saying that NDP support is artificially high?

They are still lower than they were during the last election.

Actually, they are right about where they were during the 2006 election...but support for the Green party has gone up quite a bit. It's likely that a lot of those new Green votes came from the NDP.

[Vancouver King]

Are you saying that NDP support is artificially high?

They are still lower than they were during the last election.

Wrong again Michael, the NDP is not below their showing of last election.

What has changed is this: there is no longer a corrupt Liberal regime to toss out of office; left of centre voters will have other priorities, ie. denying Conservatives a majority govt.

[Michael Bluth]

Actually, they are right about where they were during the 2006 election...but support for the Green party has gone up quite a bit. It's likely that a lot of those new Green votes came from the NDP.

Yeah, 1/2 a point down isn't such a big deal.

So if the jump in Green support is coming from the NDP are you saying that the NDP has replaced that support from former Conservative voters?

[gc1765]

Yeah, 1/2 a point down isn't such a big deal.

So if the jump in Green support is coming from the NDP are you saying that the NDP has replaced that support from former Conservative voters?

It could be from former Conservative voters, or it could be from former Liberal voters (where the Liberal votes are in turn replaced by former Conservative voters). It's likely a bit of both, but I'm not sure how that is relevant.

[Michael Bluth]

Wrong again Michael, the NDP is not below their showing of last election.

Here is the quote from the article.

The poll gives the Tories 33 per cent support overall, with 31 per cent for the Liberals, 17 per cent NDP, 10 per cent Green and eight per cent favouring the Bloc Quebecois.

In the 2006 election the NDP got 2,589,597 of the 14,845,680 votes cast. That is 17.44% of the total votes cast.

Seems to me like 17% is less than 17.44%.

Do explain why I'm wrong again.

Angry, angry, angry....

[Vancouver King]

Wrong again Michael, the NDP is not below their showing of last election.

Here is the quote from the article.

The poll gives the Tories 33 per cent support overall, with 31 per cent for the Liberals, 17 per cent NDP, 10 per cent Green and eight per cent favouring the Bloc Quebecois.

In the 2006 election the NDP got 2,589,597 of the 14,845,680 votes cast. That is 17.44% of the total votes cast.

Seems to me like 17% is less than 17.44%.

Do explain why I'm wrong again.

Angry, angry, angry....

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[Shakeyhands]

In the 2006 election the NDP got 2,589,597 of the 14,845,680 votes cast. That is 17.44% of the total votes cast.

Seems to me like 17% is less than 17.44%.

Do explain why I'm wrong again.

Angry, angry, angry....

hahaha!! Are you serious? .44%... you are hanging your hat on .44????

you joker, joker, joker.....