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http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.html

here is diane been seen once in caledonia since may is this who harper pays not to do a job please do not allow a person like her stand for you

I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources?

Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long.

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I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources?

Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long.

Land disputes is a federal responsibility.

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I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources?

Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long.

Land disputes is a federal responsibility.

Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem.

If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance.

I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date.

Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues.

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He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables.

Not wanting to damage progress is not a good excuse for doing nothing, if the progress is not reported to the people (residents and native protesters)

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Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem.

If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance.

I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date.

Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues.

The reason he hasn't is because the federal government has supported an appeal of the judge's decision. If you don't believe it, look it up.

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Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long.

I have to agree with Betsy on this one. It's too bad that it took a Native blockade before the media realized just how lawless Caledonia really is.

But then again, only the Caledonians can change this perception of themselves. I think that merely curtailing the abuse of strong drink in public would do wonders for Caledonia's image.

There is are no such things as stupid questions, just stupid people.

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Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem.

If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance.

I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date.

Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues.

The reason he hasn't is because the federal government has supported an appeal of the judge's decision. If you don't believe it, look it up.

The idiots that are negotiating with McGuinty haven't a clue. If they left the land it would likely be handed over in due course.

How can there be meaningful negotiation when the natives already possess the land in question for all intensive purposes? What reason is there for them to even be at the table short of political correctness?

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He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables.
This artical takes about the negotiation process:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

Decisions are reached by consensus at gatherings of whoever happens to be on the site that day. But consensus can be long in the making, and the porous nature of the native lines means decisions are often ephemeral.

To the non-native observer this can seem chaotic; to government negotiators, it is downright exasperating.

“There's a constant dynamic inside the place; it's like a swirling cauldron,” said David Peterson, the former Ontario premier who negotiated the removal of the blockade of two main roads in Caledonia. “Nobody answers to anybody. They all answer to each other.”

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He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables.
This artical takes about the negotiation process:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home

Decisions are reached by consensus at gatherings of whoever happens to be on the site that day. But consensus can be long in the making, and the porous nature of the native lines means decisions are often ephemeral.

To the non-native observer this can seem chaotic; to government negotiators, it is downright exasperating.

“There's a constant dynamic inside the place; it's like a swirling cauldron,” said David Peterson, the former Ontario premier who negotiated the removal of the blockade of two main roads in Caledonia. “Nobody answers to anybody. They all answer to each other.”

My question on the negotiations was not on how the natives achieve a decision, but on the progress of negotiations between the natives and the respective levels of government. We (as residents of Caledonia), have not been given any information from the government. Our only means of info has been through websites, and from, ironically, MNN. I won't comment on the bias of their reports, but they do have some useful information.

McGuilty and his cronies have repeatedly commented on the progress of negotiations, but that's all they comment on, the progress of negotiations...

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I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources?

Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long.

Land disputes is a federal responsibility.

It's not a land dispute issue. The judge ruled in accordance to the law the Indians have to go. The OPP won't touch it...

It's McGuinty's law enforcement issue, not Harper's land claims issue. The decision has been made, time to arrest the squaters.

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It's not a land dispute issue. The judge ruled in accordance to the law the Indians have to go. The OPP won't touch it...

It's McGuinty's law enforcement issue, not Harper's land claims issue. The decision has been made, time to arrest the squaters.

If that is true, why are the feds supporting McGuinty?

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She:kon!

It is no longer a "land dispute". The government has acknowledged that Six Nations holds title to the entire tract.

It is a federal issues becuase the people squatting on our territory are Canadians and the federal government has to look after their business interests...I mean.....those people produce a lot of goods and losing them would put a serious dent in the Canadian economy.

O:nen

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The federal govt responsiblity is limited to the reserves only, the DCE land is not reserve land, therefore the feds can't do any thing.

Unless McQuinty asks for help, which is strange as asking for the feds to step in, will take the pressure off of him for the upcoming election.

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The federal govt responsiblity is limited to the reserves only, the DCE land is not reserve land, therefore the feds can't do any thing.

Unless McQuinty asks for help, which is strange as asking for the feds to step in, will take the pressure off of him for the upcoming election.

And yet the feds are backing the appeal of the judge's decision.

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But then again, only the Caledonians can change this perception of themselves. I think that merely curtailing the abuse of strong drink in public would do wonders for Caledonia's image.
i hear they are still dunking witches there.
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here is what ottawa core thinks of people on this forum

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The site was "mapleleaf" I think

gotta watch the campaign there to paint canada white. just thought i'd consider the source of information as 1. unsubstantiated rumour, 2. innocent rumour, 3. cretinous racist rumour mongering. of course, there are degrees of all. i would rank many of the mapleleaf writers as seriously demented and absolutely racist to the core. it would serve their purpose if all of us believed their lies/rumours/campaign. are there really professional sh** disturbers paid to write these comments? anything's fair: love, war, and politics. if you are living in caledonia, pop into the minivan and check it out for us, truth seeker.

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