deirdrie Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.html here is diane been seen once in caledonia since may is this who harper pays not to do a job please do not allow a person like her stand for you Quote
betsy Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/latestnews.htmlhere is diane been seen once in caledonia since may is this who harper pays not to do a job please do not allow a person like her stand for you I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources? Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources?Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long. Land disputes is a federal responsibility. Quote
Leafless Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources? Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long. Land disputes is a federal responsibility. Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem. If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance. I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date. Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues. Quote
Riley Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables. Not wanting to damage progress is not a good excuse for doing nothing, if the progress is not reported to the people (residents and native protesters) Quote
jdobbin Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem. If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance. I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date. Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues. The reason he hasn't is because the federal government has supported an appeal of the judge's decision. If you don't believe it, look it up. Quote
Temagami Scourge Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long. I have to agree with Betsy on this one. It's too bad that it took a Native blockade before the media realized just how lawless Caledonia really is. But then again, only the Caledonians can change this perception of themselves. I think that merely curtailing the abuse of strong drink in public would do wonders for Caledonia's image. Quote There is are no such things as stupid questions, just stupid people.
Hicksey Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 Gimme a break, the immediate responsibility of upholding the law is a provincial responsibility, AKA as Mr. Mc.Guinty's problem. If he can't do it why does he not call federal authorities for assistance. I've heard somewhere along the way that Mc.Guinty does not want to take action as to not upset the progress made to date. Mc.Guinty's name is spelled all over why this problem continues. The reason he hasn't is because the federal government has supported an appeal of the judge's decision. If you don't believe it, look it up. The idiots that are negotiating with McGuinty haven't a clue. If they left the land it would likely be handed over in due course. How can there be meaningful negotiation when the natives already possess the land in question for all intensive purposes? What reason is there for them to even be at the table short of political correctness? Quote "If in passing, you never encounter anything that offends you, you are not living in a free society." - Rt. Hon. Kim Campbell - “In many respects, the government needs fewer rules, but rules that are consistently applied.” - Sheila Fraser, Former Auditor General.
Riverwind Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables.This artical takes about the negotiation process:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home Decisions are reached by consensus at gatherings of whoever happens to be on the site that day. But consensus can be long in the making, and the porous nature of the native lines means decisions are often ephemeral.To the non-native observer this can seem chaotic; to government negotiators, it is downright exasperating. “There's a constant dynamic inside the place; it's like a swirling cauldron,” said David Peterson, the former Ontario premier who negotiated the removal of the blockade of two main roads in Caledonia. “Nobody answers to anybody. They all answer to each other.” Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
Riley Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 He may not want to damage any progress made, fair enough. However, no one knows what progress has been made, since no one is saying anything. The only progress I know of, is to get more people on the negotiators payroll - 1 main table and 4 side tables.This artical takes about the negotiation process:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...y/National/home Decisions are reached by consensus at gatherings of whoever happens to be on the site that day. But consensus can be long in the making, and the porous nature of the native lines means decisions are often ephemeral.To the non-native observer this can seem chaotic; to government negotiators, it is downright exasperating. “There's a constant dynamic inside the place; it's like a swirling cauldron,” said David Peterson, the former Ontario premier who negotiated the removal of the blockade of two main roads in Caledonia. “Nobody answers to anybody. They all answer to each other.” My question on the negotiations was not on how the natives achieve a decision, but on the progress of negotiations between the natives and the respective levels of government. We (as residents of Caledonia), have not been given any information from the government. Our only means of info has been through websites, and from, ironically, MNN. I won't comment on the bias of their reports, but they do have some useful information. McGuilty and his cronies have repeatedly commented on the progress of negotiations, but that's all they comment on, the progress of negotiations... Quote
geoffrey Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 I forgot what her position is in the government. I thought she's with Human Resources? Anyway, what is Liberal McGuinty doing? He is the premier of Ontario after all. And lawlessness in Caledonia had been a major problem for too long. Land disputes is a federal responsibility. It's not a land dispute issue. The judge ruled in accordance to the law the Indians have to go. The OPP won't touch it... It's McGuinty's law enforcement issue, not Harper's land claims issue. The decision has been made, time to arrest the squaters. Quote RealRisk.ca - (Latest Post: Prosecutors have no "Skin in the Game") --
jdobbin Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 It's not a land dispute issue. The judge ruled in accordance to the law the Indians have to go. The OPP won't touch it...It's McGuinty's law enforcement issue, not Harper's land claims issue. The decision has been made, time to arrest the squaters. If that is true, why are the feds supporting McGuinty? Quote
deirdrie Posted August 14, 2006 Author Report Posted August 14, 2006 maybe the feds are scared of the natives the feds have been dragging there heels for years they need to sort out the land claims now not 10 years from now Quote
Tsi Nikayen' Enonhne' Posted August 14, 2006 Report Posted August 14, 2006 She:kon! It is no longer a "land dispute". The government has acknowledged that Six Nations holds title to the entire tract. It is a federal issues becuase the people squatting on our territory are Canadians and the federal government has to look after their business interests...I mean.....those people produce a lot of goods and losing them would put a serious dent in the Canadian economy. O:nen Quote
skyclad Posted August 15, 2006 Report Posted August 15, 2006 The federal govt responsiblity is limited to the reserves only, the DCE land is not reserve land, therefore the feds can't do any thing. Unless McQuinty asks for help, which is strange as asking for the feds to step in, will take the pressure off of him for the upcoming election. Quote
jdobbin Posted August 15, 2006 Report Posted August 15, 2006 The federal govt responsiblity is limited to the reserves only, the DCE land is not reserve land, therefore the feds can't do any thing. Unless McQuinty asks for help, which is strange as asking for the feds to step in, will take the pressure off of him for the upcoming election. And yet the feds are backing the appeal of the judge's decision. Quote
skyclad Posted August 15, 2006 Report Posted August 15, 2006 I'm not defending the feds, but I believe they just said, negotiations were the best way, I don't recall the feds supporting the appeal. However, I could be wrong.. Quote
deirdrie Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Posted August 23, 2006 diane`s new web site http://www.wakeupdianefinley.com/ Quote
Ottawa Core Posted August 23, 2006 Report Posted August 23, 2006 But then again, only the Caledonians can change this perception of themselves. I think that merely curtailing the abuse of strong drink in public would do wonders for Caledonia's image.i hear they are still dunking witches there. Quote
deirdrie Posted August 23, 2006 Author Report Posted August 23, 2006 i think the onily witches near caledonia is janie jamieson and hazel hill Quote
deirdrie Posted August 24, 2006 Author Report Posted August 24, 2006 here is what ottawa core thinks of people on this forum Grand River wrote: The site was "mapleleaf" I think gotta watch the campaign there to paint canada white. just thought i'd consider the source of information as 1. unsubstantiated rumour, 2. innocent rumour, 3. cretinous racist rumour mongering. of course, there are degrees of all. i would rank many of the mapleleaf writers as seriously demented and absolutely racist to the core. it would serve their purpose if all of us believed their lies/rumours/campaign. are there really professional sh** disturbers paid to write these comments? anything's fair: love, war, and politics. if you are living in caledonia, pop into the minivan and check it out for us, truth seeker. _________________ Ottawa Core www.ottawacore.com Quote
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