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Just as one storm cloud cleared over Caledonia, another settled in over cigarette billboards along Highway 6 that advertise Six Nations tobacco products and stores. Some of the signs are on the reserve, some of them are off the reserve and some are within provincial highway right-of-ways. A Health Canada official said they have notified their inspectors in the region and an investigation has been launched. Tobacco companies are banned from advertising on billboards in Canada but the Six Nations people argue they are a sovereign nation and therefore not governed by Canadian laws. A spokesperson for the federal health minister said any contravention of the ban on tobacco advertising would be "unforgivable." Six Nations spokespeople were enraged by the controversy, saying it was just a ploy to divert attention from the main issue: land claims. "We are not Canadians and we are not subjected to Canadian laws," said spokesperson Hazel Hill. "We adhere to the Great Law and Canada had better just back off. They're trying to force their taxes on us. They have no say on what happens on Six Nations." Even if signs are off the traditional reserve land, Hill said they are within 10 kilometres of the Grand River and therefore part of their territory. "I could put a sign in the middle of Caledonia and it'd be our territory. This is about land claims. (Canada) stole the land and now they have to deal with it." Ontario's Aboriginal Affairs Minister David Ramsay said the tobacco signs won't scuttle talks at the main table -- set to resume Friday -- because they do not have anything to do with the land claims. "There has to be an even application of the law, and that's all that's happening," he said, adding day-to-day issues come up in every community. Tobacco was a hot issue at the rally Sunday in Caledonia organized by a Richmond Hill couple. Haldimand Mayor Marie Trainer complained she would not be allowed to put an election sign where some of the tobacco signs are because of highway right-of-way regulations. "It's two different laws. (Caledonia residents) want the signs down," she said. Jim Watson, the province's minister of health promotion, pointed to one billboard which has a cartoon bull on it as an old "trick" used by tobacco companies to attract young people. "This is a health issue: no one should be advertising tobacco products." Six Nations spokesperson Janie Jamieson said if Canada is concerned about the health of First Nations people, there are many unaddressed problems beyond the use of tobacco. Yesterday, Ontario's Transportation Minister Donna Cansfield told the legislature the tobacco billboards were being removed but contradicted herself minutes later, outside the House, when she told reporters the province was investigating the roadside signs to determine if their placement violates Ontario's Highway Traffic Act

One of these days, we fear, there’s going to be real trouble at the site of a long-simmering land dispute in the southern Ontario town of Caledonia. That’s trouble with a capital “T.” Not the kind of minor disturbance we witnessed on the past weekend, when a few hundred protesters gathered at the site to try and stir the government into action. The only real signs of disturbance on the weekend came when cops arrested a couple of protesters for crossing police lines and two others for intoxication. These would be the same police, presumably, who have stood quietly by while Native protesters dug up roads, took over homes under construction and engaged in all manner of violence over the past eight months. We worry that all hell will break loose before this is resolved, and when it does, we wonder how Premier Dalton McGuinty and his buddies at Queen’s Park will be able to look in the mirror. The simple fact that we’re now eight months into the standoff tells us all we need to know about the leadership abilities of the current provincial government. Instead of insisting that the law be applied equally and evenly to all Ontario residents last February, when Natives illegally occupied the housing development site, the government stood meekly aside. Police made one half-hearted attempt early in the occupation to oust the protesters, but backed off as soon as they dug in their heels. Since then there has been plenty of hand-wringing, but the only real action from the provincial government has been to step in and pay a few million dollars to the developer whose land was seized in the uprising. Henco Industries had planned to build 600 homes on the 40-hectare property. About 10 of those homes were under construction when protesters moved in Feb. 28. To this day, the houses sit half-finished — with red-and-yellow Native warrior flags fluttering on top of them, and the Natives vowing to stay for the winter. Meanwhile, the tension between Native and non-Native residents hangs like a heavy mist in the air, while McGuinty mutters about his government and the feds being in the “process of negotiation” with the protesters, and getting “ongoing” advice from police. That simply is not good enough. Laws are there for all Ontarians to obey. None of us gets to pick and choose. That’s a message the premier and his gang seem to have trouble understanding

again the natives break the law Ontario is asking for Ottawa's help to look into billboards advertising cigarettes posted on a highway leading to the Six Nations' reserve near Caledonia.Ontario is asking for Ottawa's help to look into billboards advertising cigarettes posted on a highway leading to the Six Nations' reserve near Caledonia. There are large signs on and off the Six Nations reserve advertising cigarettes, including one portraying a smiling bull with a feather between his horns, having a smoke. Premier Dalton McGuinty says Ontario's Ministry of Transportation is taking a look to see if the signs violate a provincial ban on tobacco advertising. And he says if the billboards break the law, then the ministry "will be taking action.'' Health Promotion Minister Jim Watson says the Smoke Free Ontario Act's ban on cigarette advertising does not apply to aboriginal reserves, which are a federal responsibility. So Ontario has written Health Minister Tony Clement saying the Six Nations' billboards are clearly in violation of the federal law and asking him to investigate. Watson is also upset that one billboard shows a cartoon bull smoking a cigarette, saying that's exactly the kind of youth-oriented advertising the ban is meant to eliminate. He says the province is also talking with native leaders to enlist their help in fighting tobacco use, especially among young aboriginals.

this is what you get when you talk out in caledonia Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 689 Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 6:36 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems to me that most of the 49th is over here today.I guess they are trying to make excuses for their lame excuse for a rally.What i would like to know is....which one is married to that sorry excuse for a human AnnMarie VanSickle er Sicko er please McGuinty move that poor skank out of her home.She's an embarassment to the country.

this is from our friend the king of trolls please read Tsi Nikayen' Enonhne' Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 262 Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- She:kon! I'll be there on October 15......I'll be the one at the front of the gaunlet inviting Gary to take the first run! I've polished up my war club real pretty like just to show him a good time - Mohawk style! Gary McHale! Come on down! Once you get to the end if the line (if you get to the end of the line......) you'll get to see what is behind door number 2.... (Of course by then you'll be fully on Six nations territory and subject to Mohawk onily in canada folks or is it

http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/

more racism from ottawa core Ottawa Core Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 303 Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 1:59 am Post subject: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Grand River wrote: My source was mapleleaf website... how can you read that trash? aren't you ashamed at some of those white folk? how would you like to encounter that response every day of your life? even if you were christ himself, just because your skin was a different colour, you would be vilified and spat upon for being. gathering perspective sometimes takes patience and respect for others. this quality hasn't been, nor do i see it ever coming forth from you. your innocent search for information you assumed you were entitled to immediately, without the smallest attempt at distinguishing yourself from the racist pigs native people on this site may encounter on a daily basis rolls you into the same type of people you give for your source of white perspective. these extremist views do nothing to help you win friends and influence people. i think you felt emboldened by neighbour, emo, and bearpaws. people like this should be round up and shot. sorry if that scares you and further adds to your absolutes. associating any credibility to this type, as you have by your responses to them, for them, and with them, tends to make you one of them. you can't undo this. you jumped in out of the blue and decided that this one incident is cause for you to validate the point you had in your head before you asked any questions. give me a break. innocent questions with a hidden agenda. duh, where have i heard that before? Grand River wrote: ...the video on the news tonight showing that very incident I asked about dispels that theory and please do not tell me it was an isolated incident. you, apparently know more about the incident than everyone you were querying now. must have been quite the investigatory account. hope it leads to the worst sort of criminal charges the authorities can muster. oh, were there any authorities in the video giving us their perspective or are we convicted by the media. yeah, that's my canada. yeah team.

here is a nice vid http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...amp;q=caledonia

did you not know i have the power like harry potter lol

here is the truth http://www.caledoniawakeupcall.com/news/christmas.html

again you are off the mark you must have real fancy for this person lora did she stand you up one night show me once on the forum where i promote violence and hatred i am standing up for my town you and the other person you are tsi show the world racism every day i will show the world for what you are

watch this space for truth from caledonia vids coming soon the world will soon see what the native realy get up to

still no countries mr make it up as go along

here is what ottawa core thinks of people on this forum Grand River wrote: The site was "mapleleaf" I think gotta watch the campaign there to paint canada white. just thought i'd consider the source of information as 1. unsubstantiated rumour, 2. innocent rumour, 3. cretinous racist rumour mongering. of course, there are degrees of all. i would rank many of the mapleleaf writers as seriously demented and absolutely racist to the core. it would serve their purpose if all of us believed their lies/rumours/campaign. are there really professional sh** disturbers paid to write these comments? anything's fair: love, war, and politics. if you are living in caledonia, pop into the minivan and check it out for us, truth seeker. _________________ Ottawa Core www.ottawacore.com

i think the onily witches near caledonia is janie jamieson and hazel hill