August1991 Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1. Both were ambitious. 2. Both lacked charm. 3. Both were cutthroat. 4. Both were in thrall to the British crown. ===== Carney is arrogant - smartest guy in the room. King was not like that. Carney speaks decent French. King deferred to a lieutenant. Carney is Catholic, married to a New Zealander. King was probably gay. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted April 17 Author Report Posted April 17 King was born in 1874, the grandson of W. L. Mackenzie. Despite what you read on the Internet, Rockefeller paid for King's education at Harvard. Carney was born in 1965. His family paid for his studies at Harvard and then he worked for Goldman Sachs. Both men are extremely ambitious: I suspect King moreso. Quote
John Stone Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 The rumor is King used a crystal ball and regularly communicated with his deceased mother and received inspiration from the ghosts of Laurier and Leo da Vinci. The crystal ball is now found at Laurier House and gets much use........... aha, pseudo divine intervention for Carney's incredible success and popularity. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 All good but the focus on religion & wives is more 1966 than 1026. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
John Johnston Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1 hour ago, John Stone said: The rumor is King used a crystal ball and regularly communicated with his deceased mother and received inspiration from the ghosts of Laurier and Leo da Vinci. The crystal ball is now found at Laurier House and gets much use........... aha, pseudo divine intervention for Carney's incredible success and popularity. I heard Carney's mother was a Witch and his Father was from the year 2345 in London. Must be true, it's on the Interweb. Meanwhile. Milhouse is busy sticking pins in his Carney voodoo Doll. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted April 22 Report Posted April 22 On 4/17/2026 at 3:46 AM, August1991 said: Both were in thrall to the British crown. You mean Canadian Crown, at least where Carney is concerned. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
August1991 Posted April 23 Author Report Posted April 23 On 4/17/2026 at 10:50 AM, John Stone said: The rumor is King used a crystal ball and regularly communicated with his deceased mother and received inspiration from the ghosts of Laurier and Leo da Vinci. The crystal ball is now found at Laurier House and gets much use........... aha, pseudo divine intervention for Carney's incredible success and popularity. Modern CBC nonsense -Mackenzie King was no fool. Quote
August1991 Posted April 23 Author Report Posted April 23 On 4/17/2026 at 10:59 AM, Michael Hardner said: All good but the focus on religion & wives is more 1966 than 1026. I suspect that King was gay, like Duplessis. Quote
August1991 Posted April 23 Author Report Posted April 23 Whatever their sexual orientation, or whether they use their left/right hand to write: Mackenzie King, like Mark Carney, are smart political operators. Poilievre is not. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 6 hours ago, August1991 said: Whatever their sexual orientation, or whether they use their left/right hand to write: Mackenzie King, like Mark Carney, are smart political operators. Poilievre is not. I don't think that's exactly fair to him. He capitalized on the prevailing winds of populism, but timing was not his friend. I don't think he can say he's not smart as much as you can say. He's unlucky. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
John Stone Posted April 23 Report Posted April 23 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Modern CBC nonsense -Mackenzie King was no fool. King has bragging rights as being the longest serving PM – his strength and ability as a leader was demonstrated in his leadership during times of National crisis. (Depression, WWII – National unity) Although he wouldn’t be my pick for GOAT (Cdn) he is deserving of great respect and worthy of a significant chapter in the Nation’s tome of leaders Quote
August1991 Posted April 25 Author Report Posted April 25 On 4/23/2026 at 8:29 AM, John Stone said: King has bragging rights as being the longest serving PM – his strength and ability as a leader was demonstrated in his leadership during times of National crisis. (Depression, WWII – National unity) Although he wouldn’t be my pick for GOAT (Cdn) he is deserving of great respect and worthy of a significant chapter in the Nation’s tome of leaders King was an insider - like Carney. Both know how to play the game. Quote
August1991 Posted April 25 Author Report Posted April 25 On 4/23/2026 at 6:13 AM, Michael Hardner said: I don't think that's exactly fair to him. He capitalized on the prevailing winds of populism, but timing was not his friend. I don't think he can say he's not smart as much as you can say. He's unlucky. Poilievre is no Trump. He is no Diefenbaker. Quote
John Stone Posted April 25 Report Posted April 25 8 hours ago, August1991 said: King was an insider - like Carney. Both know how to play the game. It has been my experience that in life, to succeed, you need to know how to 'play the game'. Arguably, most Canadians wouldn't know who Diefenbaker was, or King, much less their contributions to the country. Holy fk Batman, Sir John A. MacDonald is being convicted on historical guilt, his legacy is that of being a racist, promoting cultural genocide. Arguably western Canada would have welcomed Manifest Destiny if not for this guy's tenure. Quote
August1991 Posted April 28 Author Report Posted April 28 On 4/25/2026 at 8:25 AM, John Stone said: It has been my experience that in life, to succeed, you need to know how to 'play the game'. Arguably, most Canadians wouldn't know who Diefenbaker was, or King, much less their contributions to the country. Holy fk Batman, Sir John A. MacDonald is being convicted on historical guilt, his legacy is that of being a racist, promoting cultural genocide. Arguably western Canada would have welcomed Manifest Destiny if not for this guy's tenure. Play the game? Mulroney? What a guy! A Catholic who speaks English. On the take.... And yet Pierre Trudeau won votes in 1968 among anglo-protestants. Heck, Laurier did it in 1896. Wait, our first Roman-Catholic PM was John Thompson. : Quote
August1991 Posted April 28 Author Report Posted April 28 Years ago, I asked a young woman in western Ukraine about the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. Why did it collapse? Her answer? Hungarians are unstable/revolutionary. Quote
John Stone Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 5 hours ago, August1991 said: Years ago, I asked a young woman in western Ukraine about the Austrian-Hungarian Empire. Why did it collapse? Her answer? Hungarians are unstable/revolutionary. ................. yeah, def unstable with the rise of Nationalism. Quote
John Stone Posted April 28 Report Posted April 28 5 hours ago, August1991 said: Play the game? Mulroney? What a guy! A Catholic who speaks English. On the take.... And yet Pierre Trudeau won votes in 1968 among anglo-protestants. Heck, Laurier did it in 1896. Wait, our first Roman-Catholic PM was John Thompson. : Doubt Canadians ever experienced a political hack with the personal charisma of Trudeau Sr. Trudeau vs. Stanfield? 😅 Quote
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