TreeBeard Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 25 minutes ago, Venandi said: Then we've arrived at the cross road and there's nothing more for me to do than show up on election day to cancel your vote and hope the mess you make can be unfuc%ed in a timely manner. As it stands now, I think we're 20 years away from solving some of the other messes you created but I'm optimistic it can still be done. Some European countries have left these things a bit late IMO. They will soon be left with one of two stark choices: - shrug their shoulders and accept fundamental changes in the fabric of their country without having had so much as a rational discussion about it; or - take on the sort of draconian measures (no one wants to see) in order to preserve it knowing full well those measures could have been avoided by doing things right in the first place. I would also point out, and I think this is telling, that had you tried to sell MAID in the form that you're currently "happy with" that it absolutely wouldn't have passed muster in Canada. I'd ask you how much MAID is too much but it doesn't actually matter since I stand opposed to what you've already accomplished anyway. Your doom and gloom scenarios of “taking back the country” are asinine. You lost the culture. No one wants your theocratic nonsense. Quote
Venandi Posted April 16 Report Posted April 16 (edited) 9 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Your doom and gloom scenarios of “taking back the country” are asinine That's not quite the context of what I was saying though and you know it.... so don't go all Herb like here. Sarcasm and ridicule rarely mitigate human nature and thinking it does is a potential fail point that is becoming increasingly common with narrative driven individuals. Maybe they'll all shrug and accept the change of state, maybe not. I'm not wild about what's currently happening in the US but it does serve as an example of the opposing scenario. I'd have anticipated that backlash though (instead of ignoring it). It was actually the act of ignoring its potential that created it in the first place. You were somehow expecting a different outcome were you? I'd say that hurting people actually is my definition of "gloom" and your milage is clearly different if you think that isn't already happening; it was easily avoided by following the law; which you refused to do BTW. You created a situation where backlash was inevitable and still refuse to believe that predictable consequences should be considered part of planning... you had no plan, only narrative and it was the fallout from narrative that caused the backlash. I think there's also the potential for a worse reaction in some European countries (in the future) due to demographic concentrations influencing political outcomes; but heh, I'm rooting for ya. After all, you've been sooooooo right about everything else eh? Thanks for playing. Edited April 16 by Venandi Quote
Army Guy Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 On 4/15/2026 at 9:25 PM, TreeBeard said: What happened to the deaf person? How do you know that it wasn’t legitimate? The family is making an accusation, but there’s no evidence. Are you in favour of capital punishment? I would say closer to 75% of media are lying rightwing rags. Even that CTV article only contains accusations and no evidence. It’s media rage-bait. He was granted MAID, hence the topic, like i said you did not read Black birds source it tells his story ... Well he is not suffering from any life threatening aliment, he is depressed but that has not been approved as a reason yet... The evidence is he was approved for maid and now no longer with us.... Are you suggesting that they are the same, capital punishment and maid....One is not legal yet here in Canada, and the other is legal and in the near future almost any reason will be granted...including if your mentally impaired you see the irony in that we can legally put anyone that requests MAID to death...but can't put someone else that has taken a life for no reason, other than pleasure or has raped children, etc those people we can't put to death...explain that liberal logic to us... Time to get out of moms basement big fella, CTV has been accused millions of times for having a left wing bias...how far out in left field do you need to satisfy your quest for the truth...i guess it would not matter what source i gave you...Goggle can be your friend...it is not bais it has both the left and right opinions on it....try it... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Venandi Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Army Guy said: He was granted MAID, hence the topic And to make it worse, he was denied several times and had to go "shopping" for it. The fact that different standards of assessment can be applied within the framework of existing laws is something that should concern all regardless of their general position on MAID... especially with an expansion of MAID eligibility on the horizon. I'm starting to wonder who I should be most afraid of here, government, voters, or doctors. I'm leaning toward voters at present. Edited April 17 by Venandi 1 1 Quote
TreeBeard Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 37 minutes ago, Army Guy said: The evidence is he was approved for maid and now no longer with us.... That’s not evidence that he should have been ineligible. Quote
Army Guy Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: That’s not evidence that he should have been ineligible. Have you read the terms of MAID you , should start there....and tell us how a deaf guy was accepted after being refused a couple of times.... Do you think being deaf is life threatening...which is the terms of maid, or the original terms any ways...now the fact he was eventually approved means you don't need a life threaten condition nor was he in any pain, anyone can apply and be accepted and in the near future, we are going to accept mentally challenged people as well...are many cases in the media of people being approved that did not meet the minimum conditions of MAID....there is at least 4 cases of military members being offered maid , and all they had was PTSD...which can be treated... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: how a deaf guy was accepted after being refused a couple of times.... No idea what deaf guy you’re talking about. Quote
Army Guy Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: No idea what deaf guy you’re talking about. now you just being a dick...you know who we are talking about....I'm tapping out... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
TreeBeard Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 3 minutes ago, Army Guy said: now you just being a dick...you know who we are talking about....I'm tapping out... What? You keep mentioning a deaf guy with no citation. Quote
Army Guy Posted April 17 Report Posted April 17 1 minute ago, TreeBeard said: What? You keep mentioning a deaf guy with no citation. I gave you a source a page ago....from CTV, don't bother responding, i'm done talking to someone that can't keep up... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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