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Posted
23 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Yes, the main reason for the investment is energy independence and a byproduct of that is reducing carbon emissions.  Not complicated....

 

 

Then why did I have to explain it to you?

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You're wasting time.... get me those affordability facts.

The ones I already presented and in fact also the ones I borrowed from you and you're still crybabying about because you look like a twat? 

There right where i left them the first time kiddo ;) 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
1 hour ago, User said:

Lapping the US… as you say you are not bragging.

That isn’t a fact, it’s a cheerleading characterization.

 

You're a sensitive little thing around all things Trump aren't you...  China taking the lead in critical area's is not bragging, it's fact and has been happening through multiple US presidents regardless of party.  Get over it... and vote for a better option next time around.

Posted
3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

What are you even trying to argue against, or are you just compelled to talk....?

I was addressing your point.  Are you saying you didn't HAVE a point? That's possible, you often come across as pointless ;) 

You cannot look at china and claim they have a good environmental record. Which is what you were alluding to. 

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted
3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You're a sensitive little thing around all things Trump aren't you...  China taking the lead in critical area's is not bragging, it's fact and has been happening through multiple US presidents regardless of party.  Get over it... and vote for a better option next time around.

No. Just pointing out that you are obsessed with hating him. You can't stop talking about him even now. 

"Taking the lead" how? What is your point in bringing this up?

This is why what you are doing is silly. 

 

 

 

Posted
24 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I was addressing your point.  Are you saying you didn't HAVE a point? That's possible, you often come across as pointless ;) 

You cannot look at china and claim they have a good environmental record. Which is what you were alluding to. 

I made my point to User, but as usual you're compelled to talk so that you can hear yourself...

I never said China had a good environmental record, did I...?   I said China is still a developing country that relies on conventional energy, but also leads the world in clean energy investment.   What don't you understand about that?

Posted
26 minutes ago, User said:

No. Just pointing out that you are obsessed with hating him. You can't stop talking about him even now. 

"Taking the lead" how? What is your point in bringing this up?

This is why what you are doing is silly. 

 

And you're obsessed with defending him... so who's right or wrong?  The difference here though is that I have far more talking points than you do to show he's a waste of oxygen.  

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, User said:

No. Just pointing out that you are obsessed with hating him. You can't stop talking about him even now. 

"Taking the lead" how? What is your point in bringing this up?

This is why what you are doing is silly. 

 

Hey User....  just listening to the demented orange guy talk and he's saying that you're actually doing pretty good with the price of gas, because he thought oil would go over $200 bbl.

This is awesome!  Hopefully the message gets to every country and industry sector on the planet that is getting hammered so they'll realize it could have been a lot worse if not for Trump.  The guy is freaking brilliant... just ask him.

Seriously.... you voted for that idi0t?

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Posted
2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

And you're obsessed with defending him... so who's right or wrong?  The difference here though is that I have far more talking points than you do to show he's a waste of oxygen.  

Brilliant logic. 

My pointing out that you keep bringing up Trump and are obsessed with Trump isn't even defending him. 

See, once again, you still have to keep trying to hate Trump. 

 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Hey User....  just listening to the demented orange guy talk and he's saying that you're actually doing pretty good with the price of gas, because he thought oil would go over $200 bbl.

This is awesome!  Hopefully the message gets to every country and industry sector on the planet that is getting hammered so they'll realize it could have been a lot worse if not for Trump.  The guy is freaking brilliant... just ask him.

Seriously.... you voted for that idi0t?

Yet again, Iran is the one who threatened global oil supply by attacking and targeting civilian shipping in international and other nations' waters. 

You are so obsessed with hating Trump, though.  

 

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, User said:

Brilliant logic. 

My pointing out that you keep bringing up Trump and are obsessed with Trump isn't even defending him. 

See, once again, you still have to keep trying to hate Trump. 

 

Here's the bottom line....  If Trump didn't do or say something stupid multiple times a day I wouldn't have any material. He's a machine though with his idi0cy and the material it provides....  So see, not my fault.

9 minutes ago, User said:

Yet again, Iran is the one who threatened global oil supply by attacking and targeting civilian shipping in international and other nations' waters. 

You are so obsessed with hating Trump, though.  

Did you go fill up after hearing how good your gas prices actually are because of his war might?

Posted
18 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Here's the bottom line....  If Trump didn't do or say something stupid multiple times a day I wouldn't have any material. He's a machine though with his idi0cy and the material it provides....  So see, not my fault.

And you still can't let Trump go. You still have to find some other way in this discussion to keep hating Trump. ROFL

19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Did you go fill up after hearing how good your gas prices actually are because of his war might?

Can you ask a more intelligent question, not based on your loading it like this?

I fill up when I need to. Gas prices are what they are, and I am going to need to fill up again regardless. 

I play the long game. I value strategic thinking and can see the end goal and the average overall price in the long run. 

 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, User said:

And you still can't let Trump go. You still have to find some other way in this discussion to keep hating Trump. ROFL

Can you ask a more intelligent question, not based on your loading it like this?

I fill up when I need to. Gas prices are what they are, and I am going to need to fill up again regardless. 

I play the long game. I value strategic thinking and can see the end goal and the average overall price in the long run. 

So...I'm to assume you like Trump inflation, but Biden's was terrible.  

Yes, gas prices are what they are, because of Trump's unnecessary war.

We all have different ways of looking at things sometimes...

Posted (edited)

Good God, this is the 3rd time since I got my DL that the Middle East caused a gas crisis. And the resident suckhole refuses to see that Donnie Diapersniper is 100% to blame for this one!

So the guys all spewed the expected lines on me, PHEVs are too complicated, cars are all shit these days, I'm too old to ever justify buying a brand new car, I don't drive enough to ever save anything driving an electrified vehicle, it will never be a collectible, etc etc etc.
The women say yeah you're old and you'll be dead before that money invested will amount ot anything meaningful, you like it, you want it, go back when the Credit Union can cut you a bank draft. You deserve it. I like their advice best....
Trade in that bouncy, jiggly, crap radio and heater wind noise generator of a Wrangler....

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Posted
1 minute ago, herbie said:

So the guys all spewed the expected lines on me, PHEVs are too complicated,

Bought a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV a year and half ago and really like it.  Zero issues so far and putting gas in the tank once a month is nice too.  Still wanted ICE for the longer hauls we may do, so mine or my wife's vehicle for that. Her next vehicle will be EV for sure.

Not surprisingly, the PHEV is not complicated at all...

Posted
2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So...I'm to assume you like Trump inflation, but Biden's was terrible.  

Yes, gas prices are what they are, because of Trump's unnecessary war.

We all have different ways of looking at things sometimes...

I don’t like inflation at all, but some is baked into the cake no matter what. 
 

So what specific inflation are you talking about here? 
 

No, once again, Iran is the one who threatened the Strait and brought global commerce going through there to a halt.

 

 

 

Posted
16 minutes ago, User said:

I don’t like inflation at all, but some is baked into the cake no matter what. 
 

So what specific inflation are you talking about here? 
 

No, once again, Iran is the one who threatened the Strait and brought global commerce going through there to a halt.

 

Last months ~3.3% CPI inflation and the impact the price of oil has across the board. Fertilizer that has stopped going through the strait will cause even further food price hikes because of that short supply and smaller crop yields. Oil and gas pricing will be high through the year, and that 3.3% may be the normal.

Yes Iran is threatening the strait, because Trump started the war.

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Bought a Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

Freind boughy one for his wife a couple years ago. She had 2 highschoolers, works in the school office and lives on the other side of the lake.
I used to live out there and in there in the laye 1990s was shelling out $400 q month for my F150 going to work, running back for groceries, taking the kids to scouts, guides, cadet, chairing meetings etc.
They plug their Outlander in overnight and that's it. He actually told here to go shopping out of town, save a few bucks on the groceries and use up some gas before it went stale!

They've also taken the whole family on runs to Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary etc. It's far bigger than I need and 10K more than the Kia I was offered, just me and the mutt rarely anyone else.

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, herbie said:

Freind boughy one for his wife a couple years ago. She had 2 highschoolers, works in the school office and lives on the other side of the lake.
I used to live out there and in there in the laye 1990s was shelling out $400 q month for my F150 going to work, running back for groceries, taking the kids to scouts, guides, cadet, chairing meetings etc.
They plug their Outlander in overnight and that's it. He actually told here to go shopping out of town, save a few bucks on the groceries and use up some gas before it went stale!

They've also taken the whole family on runs to Vancouver, Kamloops, Calgary etc. It's far bigger than I need and 10K more than the Kia I was offered, just me and the mutt rarely anyone else.

 

I/we have the dog, occassional grandkids and my golf clubs so a good size for me.  Not a lot of driving so between the plug in and regenerative charging it's way too convenient, and way cheaper on gas. Point being, you won't go wrong with either an EV or PHEV.  

Posted

Anyone with a some or townhouse is actually foolish not to consider a PHEV or BEV. 
The only legit reason not to is you can't afford the extra $$. All others are excuses a decade out of date.

As I just heard all those reasons from a 30 year old that I had to install a $4000 gaming graphics card who showed me hid $145,000 RAM truck he needs to drive to work in. (surprise -still lived with his Mom)

 

Posted
3 hours ago, herbie said:

Anyone with a some or townhouse is actually foolish not to consider a PHEV or BEV. 
The only legit reason not to is you can't afford the extra $$. All others are excuses a decade out of date.

 

 

The number of town houses are now banning the parking and charging of EVS inside their carports. The risk of fire is too great, and they've received enough information about this that some have actually gotten insurance discounts for this policy

Very few are allowing the installation of chargers.

So once again you demonstrate you have no freaking idea what you're talking about

"That which doesn't kill me...

Had better start running."

Posted

So don't buy one pf those. Who the hell would buy a home with no parking or no outdoor plug for a weed whacker? 

You're acting like the few that aren't the market define the whole market. Like as if most people have one car so there's no market of second car buyers.

Posted
16 hours ago, herbie said:

So don't buy one pf those. Who the hell would buy a home with no parking or no outdoor plug for a weed whacker? 

You're acting like the few that aren't the market define the whole market. Like as if most people have one car so there's no market of second car buyers.

Typical leftist... you think you know what is best for everyone else and they are all dumb for not doing what you think they should be doing. Next step is to mandate they do it and force them. 

 

 

Posted

Typical rsponse from someone who can't tell the difference between a concrete cubicle and a home.
Obviously totally unable to give any advice whatsoever regarding gas prices or ways to save on them.

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