Quebec: Two Tax Forms

[August1991]

Hydro-Quebec knows how much electricity I used.  I receive a Hydro-Quebec statement every two months. I pay it.

Why do I have to file a federal tax statement and a provincial tax statement?

More important, why do I have to file? 

[John Stone]

Quebec residents must file both a fed and prov. tax return due to the province desire for fiscal autonomy from Canada. Quebec collects the tax and pays a portion to the Feds using  some byzantine formula 

Quebec received $14 Billion in equalization payments in 2023 - 2024.

Quebec received the Lion's portion of transfer payments - call it the China argument - developing country?  This transfer of $$ can be rounded up to almost 30 billion if Health Transfer, Social Transfer and the the Equalization $$. is included. 

A Quebec referendum re: Separation is anticipated in 2026. 

 

Alberta receives no equalization $$ - too rich - contributes about 20 percent of GDP

[August1991]

John,

You make two good points:

1. In Canada, we have a byzantine fiscal/tax system that requires - as an individual, in Quebec - two forms.

2. The Quebec government received $14 billion. As an individual, I received nothing from Albertans.

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, August1991 said:

John,

You make two good points:

1. In Canada, we have a byzantine fiscal/tax system that requires - as an individual, in Quebec - two forms.

2. The Quebec government received $14 billion. As an individual, I received nothing from Albertans.

...........suppose it should also be said that Albertan's receive nothing from Ottawa. 

[August1991]

On 2/6/2026 at 8:41 AM, John Stone said:

...........suppose it should also be said that Albertan's receive nothing from Ottawa. 

Nothing? People in Alberta live in a civilised country.

We Canadians get along. 

[John Stone]

 

[paxamericana]

On 2/7/2026 at 11:03 PM, August1991 said:

People in Alberta live in a civilised country

Mmmmhmmm that’s how America sees you Canada, leech off America’s warmth. You can’t even defend your own land. America’s Navy keeps all potential enemies an ocean away.

Edited March 8 by paxamericana

[August1991]

21 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Mmmmhmmm that’s how America sees you Canada, leech off America’s warmth. You can’t even defend your own land. America’s Navy keeps all potential enemies an ocean away.

Albertans enjoy the benefits of being Canadian...

[ExFlyer]

On 2/5/2026 at 9:06 PM, August1991 said:

John,

You make two good points:

1. In Canada, we have a byzantine fiscal/tax system that requires - as an individual, in Quebec - two forms.

2. The Quebec government received $14 billion. As an individual, I received nothing from Albertans.

1. Not in Canada...just in Quebec.

2. I have no idea what you expect to get from Alberta or Quebec??? It's tax time...no get ...all pay LOL

[August1991]

In Ontario, there is provincial police: OPP. (Have you seen the Beatles' album?)

In the west, Manitoba, Alberta and Saskatchewan, you only have the federal RCMP.

In Newfoundland, there is now the RNC. Well said.

[herbie]

Yawn....

just select Quebec in TurboTax and click iconslike other Cdns do.

[August1991]

On 4/6/2026 at 11:41 PM, herbie said:

Yawn....

just select Quebec in TurboTax and click iconslike other Cdns do.

Precisely my point, Herbie.

[herbie]

I have to use the bigger version for self employed and can do extra returns  for a few friends and relatives.as a favour.
Two of them: only ever got 1 disability T4, only 1 T4 and sometimes a T4E
Neither one has ever in their lives filled out ain income tax form, they're both over 60. Paid one of those places in the mall their whole lives.
Just tole the kids this year they can use my program and file their own themselves. My daughter calle once with a question and once to tell me how easy it was and e-file the return. Ans he's the one with multiple accpunts, investments, stocks, etc.

Neither of those friends had an RRSP - one of those guys worked the pipeline and made a huge income last year, I had to convinve him to start an RRSP or else owe taxes!