Tourism to the USA is cratering

[CdnFox]

On 12/11/2025 at 6:27 PM, Radiorum said:

The world does not feel welcome in the USA, and they are staying away. Tourism to the USA is cratering.

What does the rest of the world know that the US doesn’t?

 

 

 

20.4 million Canadians visited the U.S. in 2024. But the 2025 numbers are dismal. Nearly half of Canadians said they canceled or delayed U.S. trips specifically because of Trump’s America. According to reporting:

Border car crossings: down 37% year-over-year.

Flights: down 26%.

Bookings: down as much as 40% earlier in the year.

And now the DHS has proposed a new rule that would require all tourists visiting the US to share the past five years of their activity on social media, as well as their contacts -  names and phone numbers. I will stay away, thanks.

This apparently seems to be true. If the reports from America are accurate there's also a large number of Canadians selling off their properties down there and not buying properties when properties used to be sold to Canadians pretty frequently.

Obviously there is an impact to the trade war and Donald Trump's insults and that was to be expected. That's one of the reasons Donald was so upset over Ontario's ads

However it is also true that many Canadian businesses have packed up and gone south. Trump is betting that more businesses will go south then business in the form of Tourism will stay north. We'll see if that's how it works out

[CdnFox]

On 12/12/2025 at 12:21 AM, Down East said:

And fewer Americans are touring abroad. Big whoop!  Who really needs to see a bunch of 300 lb. Canadian slobs wearing a speedo and black socks on our beaches anyways.

Domestic tourism in the US is up substantially in 2025 to the tune of 900 billion dollars and may pass the 1 trillion mark.  The visitations to our national parks and other attractions continue to go up.

So anyways, just stay where you are because nobody gives a shit outside of a few niche shops along the border. 

 

Well that is obviously untrue. 

As seen below it's actually having a massive impact and MANY states are suffering and domestic tourism isn't offsetting that. 

And you probably know that, that's why there's no link to your "quote". 

Conservatives don't lie about facts,  we address the facts as they are like adults. you need to stop that. 

And it's not just canada

US Tourism Faces Steep Decline as Tougher Immigration Policies and Rising Costs Drive Foreign Travelers Away – Major Cities Like Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and Miami Hit Hard - Travel And Tour World

As to your quote , the domestic tourism industry isn't up.  IT's always been around the 1 trillion mark. It's about the same right now as it's always been except for covid.  So the drop in international tourism is a straight loss for the tourism industry. 

state complains canadian tourism down - Google Search

 

Multiple U.S. states and business organizations are currently reporting significant declines in tourism and visitor spending from Canada, a trend that is severely impacting businesses, particularly those in border regions. This decline is largely attributed to political tensions, new border crossing rules, and economic factors. 

 

States Affected by the Decline

A recent report by the U.S. Senate Democrats' Joint Economic Committee highlighted that every state along the U.S.-Canada border is facing financial hardship due to fewer Canadian visitors. The affected states include: 

• Alaska
• Idaho
• Maine
• Michigan
• Minnesota
• Montana
• New Hampshire
• New York
• North Dakota
• Vermont
• Washington state 

Other states popular with Canadian snowbirds, such as Florida, Nevada (Las Vegas), and Arizona, have also seen substantial drops in visitor numbers and spending. 

 

Key Reasons for the Decline

Business owners and officials cite a combination of factors for the drop in Canadian tourism: 

• Political Climate and Rhetoric: Many Canadians report feeling hesitant to travel to the U.S. due to the political climate, trade disputes, and perceived hostility, leading some to "boycott" U.S. travel.
• Border Friction: Increased scrutiny and confusion over new border entry requirements and potential changes to immigration policies have created anxiety for travelers.
• Economic Pressures: The weak Canadian dollar against the U.S. dollar, combined with the rising cost of living in Canada, has reduced Canadian purchasing power for U.S. goods and services.
• Domestic Travel Push: Canadian provincial leaders have encouraged residents to spend their tourism dollars within Canada, further contributing to the shift in travel patterns. 

 

Impact on U.S. Businesses

The decline has had significant consequences: 

• Businesses in border towns have reported a major drop in Canadian customers, with some seeing a 50% decrease.
• Ferry services and airlines have cut routes and laid off employees.
• The U.S. Travel Association warned that a 10% decrease could result in US$2.1 billion in lost spending. 

In response, some U.S. tourism groups, such as Discover Kalispell in Montana, have launched "Canadian Welcome Passes" with discounts to try and attract visitors back. 

[Down East]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that is obviously untrue. 

As seen below it's actually having a massive impact and MANY states are suffering and domestic tourism isn't offsetting that. 

And you probably know that, that's why there's no link to your "quote". 

Conservatives don't lie about facts,  we address the facts as they are like adults. you need to stop that. 

And it's not just canada

US Tourism Faces Steep Decline as Tougher Immigration Policies and Rising Costs Drive Foreign Travelers Away – Major Cities Like Los Angeles, Las Vegas, and Miami Hit Hard - Travel And Tour World

As to your quote , the domestic tourism industry isn't up.  IT's always been around the 1 trillion mark. It's about the same right now as it's always been except for covid.  So the drop in international tourism is a straight loss for the tourism industry. 

state complains canadian tourism down - Google Search

 

Multiple U.S. states and business organizations are currently reporting significant declines in tourism and visitor spending from Canada, a trend that is severely impacting businesses, particularly those in border regions. This decline is largely attributed to political tensions, new border crossing rules, and economic factors. 

 

States Affected by the Decline

A recent report by the U.S. Senate Democrats' Joint Economic Committee highlighted that every state along the U.S.-Canada border is facing financial hardship due to fewer Canadian visitors. The affected states include: 

• Alaska
• Idaho
• Maine
• Michigan
• Minnesota
• Montana
• New Hampshire
• New York
• North Dakota
• Vermont
• Washington state 

Other states popular with Canadian snowbirds, such as Florida, Nevada (Las Vegas), and Arizona, have also seen substantial drops in visitor numbers and spending. 

 

Key Reasons for the Decline

Business owners and officials cite a combination of factors for the drop in Canadian tourism: 

• Political Climate and Rhetoric: Many Canadians report feeling hesitant to travel to the U.S. due to the political climate, trade disputes, and perceived hostility, leading some to "boycott" U.S. travel.
• Border Friction: Increased scrutiny and confusion over new border entry requirements and potential changes to immigration policies have created anxiety for travelers.
• Economic Pressures: The weak Canadian dollar against the U.S. dollar, combined with the rising cost of living in Canada, has reduced Canadian purchasing power for U.S. goods and services.
• Domestic Travel Push: Canadian provincial leaders have encouraged residents to spend their tourism dollars within Canada, further contributing to the shift in travel patterns. 

 

Impact on U.S. Businesses

The decline has had significant consequences: 

• Businesses in border towns have reported a major drop in Canadian customers, with some seeing a 50% decrease.
• Ferry services and airlines have cut routes and laid off employees.
• The U.S. Travel Association warned that a 10% decrease could result in US$2.1 billion in lost spending. 

In response, some U.S. tourism groups, such as Discover Kalispell in Montana, have launched "Canadian Welcome Passes" with discounts to try and attract visitors back. 

Many reports are stating that the domestic tourism increase in 2025 helped offset the loss of International tourism which is good. 

I know a lot of Canadians are getting a hard on thinking they are sticking it to the USA and wrecking our tourism industry, but it's only about 20% factual. The fact is............we aren't going anywheres.  Covid was much harder on the industry than what is going on now.................and we stuck it out.  Many of the US/Can border tourists traps are now directing their advertising to the US consumer instead of Canada, and it's working.

Another tidbit.......fewer Canadians are traveling anyways due to a weaker Canadian dollar, inflation, and rising cost of living at home.

Elbows up Canada!   ..........or is it buttocks up?

[herbie]

Obvious that some of these turds live nowhere near the border. Those towns and states are practically grovelling to beg Canadians to return. The businesses there that haven't already gone under especially. 

[Down East]

My relatives and their kids are all mostly from Newfoundland, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, and PEI......... a couple live Montreal these days.

They all made their annual trips down to Maine, Boston,Virginia, Florida, and Myrtle Beach like they do every year.  My house had guests off and on from May till Sept this year.  They love using my place as stop over, or main visit destination. They have visited the wife and I for the past 40 years and now their kids come to stay as well.

Yeah, there's been a dollar hit in 2025 but who the hell cares if some liberal Canadians actually believe that they are going to ruin US Tourism. It isn't going to happen. 

 

[Down East]

24 minutes ago, herbie said:

Obvious that some of these turds live nowhere near the border. Those towns and states are practically grovelling to beg Canadians to return. The businesses there that haven't already gone under especially. 

The US will adjust like it always does.   It's not like it's the first time that certain businesses have suffered under policy changes...................and that goes for ignorant Democrat enacted policies as well.

But of course, you and the rest of the hard core lunatic liberals will ignore this fact.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Down East said:

Many reports are stating that the domestic tourism increase in 2025 helped offset the loss of International tourism which is good. 

And I can't find that, so post a couple examples and we can take a look at it together

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I know a lot of Canadians are getting a hard on thinking they are sticking it to the USA and wrecking our tourism industry,

There is something fundamentally wrong with you if the first place your brain goes to is thinking about males hard ons the moment someone challenges your position politically   I mean, we're not here to judge you. But we're probably going to.

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but it's only about 20% factual. The fact is............we aren't going anywheres.  Covid was much harder on the industry than what is going on now.................and we stuck it out. 

Well you didn't stick it out, covid was destroying the country. Fortunately it didn't last long. But look what it did to inflation and your debt. Not that anyone did terribly well under covid 

I doubt America is going to collapse into the sea. But the whole point of this exercise was to make america financially more successful and so far it's not really having that effect. And for a lot of states it's actually making things worse considering the candidate was their biggest rating partner

 

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Many of the US/Can border tourists traps are now directing their advertising to the US consumer instead of Canada, and it's working.

Already provided proof that it is failing miserably and they are suffering.

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Another tidbit.......fewer Canadians are traveling anyways due to a weaker Canadian dollar, inflation, and rising cost of living at home.

They're still out there spending the money. It's just the Americans aren't getting it. Tourism to Mexico is up substantially.

An honest trump supporter will look at the situation and say the whole idea here is that yes, we will take some significant losses in some areas but over time the net benefit that comes from more businesses moving to America will outweigh those weaknesses and in the aggregate we will be better off and have a stronger economy.

And you can make that argument. So far it's not quite shown up yet. Trump had a bad quarter followed by what would normally be categorized as a decently strong quarter and we're probably another couple of quarters away to seeing how this is really going to play out. Economies take a long time to react to any changes, anything you do today won't show up for another 6 months to a year.

But there's no doubt that while the GDP is improving inflationary pressures are still strong and upsetting Americans and that some sectors are suffering some pretty significant losses.

So we'll see. It's too soon to call the ball, and if a trump hater tells you that he's failing then that person is lying and if a trump supporter tells you that it's all going great and succeeding than that person is also lying. Right now it's a mixed bag with some positive news and some negative news and it'll be a while before it settles down and we can see where things are landing

[herbie]

6 hours ago, Down East said:

But of course, you and the rest of the hard core lunatic liberals will ignore this fact.

No wonder the isolationism is on the rise. According to your own belief, the entire rest of the world is unworthy left wing liberals out to get you.

Edited December 14, 2025 by herbie

[Down East]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

No wonder the isolationism is on the rise. According to your own belief, the entire rest of the world is unworthy left wing liberals out to get you.

Ahhhh......the isolationism thingy again?

Who exactly is the US isolated from again?  Some tourists?

Name a single European country that has stopped trading with the US............ that was a year ago?

 

[gatomontes99]

On 12/14/2025 at 12:11 AM, herbie said:

No wonder the isolationism is on the rise. According to your own belief, the entire rest of the world is unworthy left wing liberals out to get you.

And you ignored the "fact" he posted, proving him correct.