AI -We Get This All Wrong

[August1991]

Pierre Trudeau, Brian Mulroney.

Years ago, I knew such people. They typically had to schedule their life.

Secretaries. Robert Bourassa always had a beautiful woman.  

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Mark Carney, Justin Trudeau and Elon Musk still have a scheduling assistant.

I have many scheduling problems to solve too.

I have more choices.

[August1991]

Trudeau, Mulroney, Clinton...

Assistant?

Who can you trust? 

[August1991]

Let me back up. AI -artificial intelligence is not about ChatGPT, fake YouTubes, new music, LLM, cheating on tests.

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AI is a helper for old people like me.

Done right, AI is not what many people do. It is what I do.

It requires trust. 

Edited November 30, 2025 by August1991

[John Stone]

On 11/30/2025 at 12:55 AM, August1991 said:

Let me back up. AI -artificial intelligence is not about ChatGPT, fake YouTubes, new music, LLM, cheating on tests.

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AI is a helper for old people like me.

Done right, AI is not what many people do. It is what I do.

It requires trust. 

Trust??

That's like saying HOPE is a strategy. 

[August1991]

10 hours ago, John Stone said:

Trust??

That's like saying HOPE is a strategy. 

Artificial Intelligence is all about sophisticated pattern recognition.

1) AI should learn what I do and help me. I have my own way of organising files.

2) AI should decode the human DNA.

[John Stone]

Artificial Intelligence, political hacks notwithstanding  is capable of learning  and most important - original thought. 

Don't laugh when I say that in the not too distant future, for some people, the laptop will be their best friend - marriage and even conjugal visits might evolve. 

The oceans will be littered with  nuc powered weapons that will have dwell time of years. 

Fighter a/c will become obsolete - rather flying platforms will determine targets and conduct stream attacks with drones and/or missile

Hollywood will be impacted in huge way - look ma, no bio actors (deep fake)

Jobs - anyone that works behind a desk needs to be concerned (very)

Unemployment will skyrocket - guaranteed income will be a debating point - people will be in the streets.

I laugh when I hear, 'technology creates jobs' - how naive. 

The only limiting factor wrt technology is science. 

There could not be  enough solar panels to power what is coming - fusion might save us.

There are more people alive today on the earth than have ever lived on the earth - concerning? 

OMG

 

 

Edited December 2, 2025 by John Stone

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, John Stone said:

Artificial Intelligence, political hacks notwithstanding  is capable of learning  and most important - original thought. 

Don't laugh when I say that in the not too distant future, for some people, the laptop will be their best friend - marriage and even conjugal visits might evolve. 

The oceans will be littered with  nuc powered weapons that will have dwell time of years. 

Fighter a/c will become obsolete - rather flying platforms will determine targets and conduct stream attacks with drones and/or missile

Hollywood will be impacted in huge way - look ma, no bio actors (deep fake)

Jobs - anyone that works behind a desk needs to be concerned (very)

Unemployment will skyrocket - guaranteed income will be a debating point - people will be in the streets.

I laugh when I hear, 'technology creates jobs' - how naive. 

The only limiting factor wrt technology is science. 

There could not be  enough solar panels to power what is coming - fusion might save us.

There are more people alive today on the earth than have ever lived on the earth - concerning? 

OMG

 

 

Dude, august isn't a bad guy and every now and then he's got something intelligent to add to a conversation. He goes through these little crazy patches where he brings up weirdly random crap and it's not really terribly rational. Most of us find it best to just let him go through it and engage with him when he's having his more lucid moments  

At this point it sounds like he's mad that he's missed another doctor's appointment and technology hasn't solved that problem for him.

As far as technology goes every single time there's an advancement that's the one society says is going to bring down the fall of mankind. I've already been through the computers are going to destroy jobs and leave people out of work, the internet is going to destroy jobs and leave people out of work phases and I doubt AI will be any different from what I can see.

Just promise him you'll tell him when his next doctor appointment is and let's go back to discussing things that are sane  

[August1991]

On 12/2/2025 at 8:28 AM, John Stone said:

Artificial Intelligence, political hacks notwithstanding  is capable of learning  and most important - original thought. 

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JS, you lost me there.

AI is not about original thought.

AI is understanding what I do.  It is my assistant.

[August1991]

On 12/2/2025 at 4:25 PM, CdnFox said:

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At this point it sounds like he's mad that he's missed another doctor's appointment and technology hasn't solved that problem for him.

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Still laughing. But true, CdnFox, I dunno.

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Years ago, I walked through the home of a rich American person in the late 19th century (Sarasota, Fla - Ringling). It had hot and cold running water.

I recall seeing the bathroom of Louis XV. It had a tub.

Versailles? It has a small opera room, similar to many home-theatre rooms in America today.

Here's my point: What rich people did in the past, everyone will do in the future.

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Except Elvis. We will not all have shag carpet.  

[August1991]

I suspect that local banks will lead AI. Maybe Apple.

Nobody trusts the Internet, Facebook, Microsoft or Google anymore. 

Edited December 4, 2025 by August1991

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

Still laughing. But true, CdnFox, I dunno.

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oh don't think i don't empathize  LOL  Damn near missed one this morning. 

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Years ago, I walked through the home of a rich American person in the late 19th century (Sarasota, Fla - Ringling). It had hot and cold running water.

I recall seeing the bathroom of Louis XV. It had a tub.

Versailles? It has a small opera room, similar to many home-theatre rooms in America today.

Here's my point: What rich people did in the past, everyone will do in the future.

 

I remember a joke:  

Dr: " You appear to have gout"

Patient: "What? I thought gout was only a rich man's disease!"

Dr: " that used to be true, but credit cards solved that"

 

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Except Elvis. We will not all have shag carpet.  

I grew up with a shag carpet   And i eat a lot of PBJ.  and i AM a hunka hunka burning love...  heyyyyyy wait a minute....

[John Stone]

7 hours ago, August1991 said:

JS, you lost me there.

AI is not about original thought.

AI is understanding what I do.  It is my assistant.

relax - just trying to scare you - after all, the machine gun was considered a much overrated weapon. 

[August1991]

On 12/4/2025 at 5:50 AM, John Stone said:

relax - just trying to scare you - after all, the machine gun was considered a much overrated weapon. 

Hmmm.

In WWI, the machine gun - self-propelled bullets - was devastating. True.

Artificial intelligence, computers etc, are different.

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At present, no one knows how to monetise AI.  

My point is that AI requires trust. I suspect that banks will introduce AI - at first for old people.  

[John Stone]

6 hours ago, August1991 said:

Hmmm.

In WWI, the machine gun - self-propelled bullets - was devastating. True.

Artificial intelligence, computers etc, are different.

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At present, no one knows how to monetise AI.  

My point is that AI requires trust. I suspect that banks will introduce AI - at first for old people.  

One thing is for certain ............. science and by extension technology cannot be controlled.........fission / fusion weapons are prime but dated examples. Those that developed those weapons weren't so much patriots as they were scientists trying to prove a point .......... to be FIRST. 

Someone once said, 'what is possible is done, what is impossible, will be done'. 

What is somewhat alarming is that some countries during this natural development will have no safeguards ...Democracies will make political and partisan arguments like they always do in pursuit of power. 

Advantage? Those that have no control or moral restraints. 

Edited December 6, 2025 by John Stone

[eyeball]

On 12/3/2025 at 7:26 PM, August1991 said:

JS, you lost me there.

AI is not about original thought.

AI is understanding what I do.  It is my assistant.

What's in it for it?

[eyeball]

On 12/3/2025 at 7:37 PM, August1991 said:

Here's my point: What rich people did in the past, everyone will do in the future.  

Everyone will worry about staying ahead of the Joneses never mind catching up?

What's in it for AI again?

[August1991]

On 12/6/2025 at 7:22 PM, eyeball said:

Everyone will worry about staying ahead of the Joneses never mind catching up?

What's in it for AI again?

Many a Jones wants to signal that they're ahead of Smith. Nothing new in that.

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But at present, Warren Buffet/Vladimir Putin/Woody Allen do not organise their lives the way that I do.

I have to mess with cumbersome passwords, weird screens.

Buffett et al has a trustworthy personal assistant to deal with such problems.  

 

[August1991]

Bump.