Aboriginals think they can now govern 41,000 square kilometers of B.C.

[blackbird]

On 12/9/2025 at 11:21 PM, Moonlight Graham said:

If it's unceded land then it's theirs, by my amateur legal logic. 

Not really how it is.  Some native bands lived along the Skeena River and the Hazelton area in northwest B.C. for example.  They never occupied the thousands of square kilometers east of where their villages are that some of their unelected chiefs now claim.  I lived in that area for decades and have been to a number of their villages.  I'm sure they never occupied the thousands of square kilometers their unelected chiefs now claim.

But when Coastal gaslink company was building a natural gas pipeline through the central interior of B.C. to the west coast, some of those unelected, ancestral elders came along with all kinds of environmentalists from other parts of Canada (and possibly even from the U.S.) and red power activists from anywhere and tried to block construction of the pipeline through the hundreds of kilometers of central B.C.   That was through areas that the ancestors of these elders never lived at all.   It is just vast areas of wilderness they now claim as their "traditional territories", a completely fake claim.  According to NDP ideology, non-natives are supposed to believe this lie and bow down to them and start paying millions of dollars in compensation and/or give them control over resource development on vast areas of B.C.  The BC NDP is so screwed up they don't know left from right or up from down.

Interestingly the elected band councilors, from bands further inland and in a few places along the route of the Coastal Gaslink pipeline reached a deal with the Gaslink company to build the pipeline, but a few unelected chiefs from other places went there to block the construction anyway.  They were removed and a few protesters went to jail.  The few unelected hereditary chiefs came from closer to the coast in villages far from the area of the pipeline and have no legitimate claim over the vast wilderness they are claiming.

Edited December 12, 2025 by blackbird

[herbie]

The area you mention is NOT on the Skeena, that's hundreds of kms west from there.
While you're at it, why not mention the flooded villages and graveyards we screwed them out of along the Nechako and seem to want the right to do more of?

[John Stone]

On 12/12/2025 at 5:00 PM, herbie said:

The area you mention is NOT on the Skeena, that's hundreds of kms west from there.
While you're at it, why not mention the flooded villages and graveyards we screwed them out of along the Nechako and seem to want the right to do more of?

On 12/12/2025 at 5:00 PM, herbie said:

The area you mention is NOT on the Skeena, that's hundreds of kms west from there.
While you're at it, why not mention the flooded villages and graveyards we screwed them out of along the Nechako and seem to want the right to do more of?

On 12/12/2025 at 11:01 AM, blackbird said:

Not really how it is.  Some native bands lived along the Skeena River and the Hazelton area in northwest B.C. for example.  They never occupied the thousands of square kilometers east of where their villages are that some of their unelected chiefs now claim.  I lived in that area for decades and have been to a number of their villages.  I'm sure they never occupied the thousands of square kilometers their unelected chiefs now claim.

But when Coastal gaslink company was building a natural gas pipeline through the central interior of B.C. to the west coast, some of those unelected, ancestral elders came along with all kinds of environmentalists from other parts of Canada (and possibly even from the U.S.) and red power activists from anywhere and tried to block construction of the pipeline through the hundreds of kilometers of central B.C.   That was through areas that the ancestors of these elders never lived at all.   It is just vast areas of wilderness they now claim as their "traditional territories", a completely fake claim.  According to NDP ideology, non-natives are supposed to believe this lie and bow down to them and start paying millions of dollars in compensation and/or give them control over resource development on vast areas of B.C.  The BC NDP is so screwed up they don't know left from right or up from down.

Interestingly the elected band councilors, from bands further inland and in a few places along the route of the Coastal Gaslink pipeline reached a deal with the Gaslink company to build the pipeline, but a few unelected chiefs from other places went there to block the construction anyway.  They were removed and a few protesters went to jail.  The few unelected hereditary chiefs came from closer to the coast in villages far from the area of the pipeline and have no legitimate claim over the vast wilderness they are claiming.

Yeah, UNDRIPA really fk'd things up - and it was so unnecessary. 

UNDRIPA carried no legal weight - it was a resolution passed by the U.N. General Assembly (2007??)

The British Columbia Court of Appeal (Dec 5th, 2025) confirmed UNDRIPA be incorporated into the B.C. positive law with immediate effect???

Justin Trudeau officially adopted UNDRIP 2010. The legislation to implement UNDRIP was passed by the LIberal Government in June 2021 - receiving royal assent June 21, 2021. 

UNDRIP will have a huge effect broadly  IMO 

What UNDRIP basically does is challenge Freehold Ownership - which gives the property owner the legal entitlement  to do whatever he pleases with land that he/she purchases. 

Thanks Justin. 

[herbie]

7 hours ago, John Stone said:

What UNDRIP basically does is challenge Freehold Ownership

It does not but some of you will undoubtedly claim it does over and over to convince yourselves otherwise.

Edited December 21, 2025 by herbie

[eyeball]

7 hours ago, John Stone said:

Justin Trudeau officially adopted UNDRIP 2010. The legislation to implement UNDRIP was passed by the LIberal Government in June 2021 - receiving royal assent June 21, 2021. 

And yet the courts and federal government are still ruling and stating that its not a veto.

It's a powerful tool for sure but it's not the toolbox 

[John Stone]

Have the lights been turned off in the U.N.  building yet? 

 

[blackbird]

On 12/21/2025 at 12:28 PM, herbie said:

It does not but some of you will undoubtedly claim it does over and over to convince yourselves otherwise.

So why the court ruling on Richmond private proporties?  Tell the truth for a change.

[herbie]

The Court said dick about private property. Neither did the Band.
Only alarmists want you to think it is being threatened.
That is the truth.