Digital ID.

[ExFlyer]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

You are the problem Flyer. You can figure out how to take info from a few things to find out even more without needing an everything right there one.

You must've had to go all the way to a library and look in several books to do your homework instead of just clicking on Facebook or X.
Once a girl I was chatting nasty with said she looked up my IP and we were in the same town. I realized she had a brain and did the same to her PLUS.
Hey! You live 5 doors down? Why are we texting, CU in a minute or so.
Greatest summer of my life!
When I had the old huge satellite dish, I caught the 14 yr old kids watching a porn channel. They showed ME how they did it. Then I locked it out with an admin code they'd never crack. Which they did by getting one of their Mom's to ask my wife how and listening in. 

The point is, when someone isn't resourceful enough they assume no one else can be either, and get resentful of anyone who is.

I am not sure what you are trying to say.

I do not get my info from facebook or X.

My point is with people like taxi that does not get that he/she is already in a digital ID. world. Anyone with limited skills can get all his/her data or information without leaving their office. He/she making it sound like some communist/WEF/government plot is hysterical...  He/she readily and voluntarily gave anyone that wanted it their information.

 

[taxme]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

How profound.  LOL LOL LOL

More insults ...WOW, that was unexpected LOL

They got your name, number, and everything about you.  Suck it up...you are in their books LOL

Insults is the only thing that you can really understand. They seem to get my darling little comrade troll all riled up. I love it. 🤡

They have your number alright and they now know that they have an imbecile fool on the hook. Keep sucking up the WEF Zionist billionaire bloody bullshit and lies, commie. They like having useful idi0ts like you around, sucker. 🤪

[herbie]

59 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I am not sure what you are trying to say.

I guess not. I meant you are capable of gathering info from multiple sources to learn something, whereas the guys dissing you aren't.
- All the info available in a Digital ID is already available by sorting other IDs, we're only trusting that they're not.
- Four kids working together can crack a code even if one's only a C level like my kid,
- I, despite being only a mid level geek found a girl's address from an online dial up chat.

Some people insist no one can do things, simply because they can't. Believe me, I deal with that every day both in business and socially.
- whadda ya mean, the computer SAYS you can't
_ whadda you know about business practices and taxes you only ran a store in this shitty town for 30 years.

I mean look at all the conspiracies when the reality is the guy in Cubicle A is clueless what's happening in Cubicle B of the DMV. Asks how to spell your name when your old registration is right in front of him. How YOU even have to ask your Doctor what the lab tests say, or ask a utility why they didn't send an email when the posties are on strike, which they've had since you first signed up and they charged you a late fee for regardless.

Edited November 7, 2025 by herbie

[taxme]

1 hour ago, ExFlyer said:

I am not sure what you are trying to say.

I do not get my info from facebook or X.

My point is with people like taxi that does not get that he/she is already in a digital ID. world. Anyone with limited skills can get all his/her data or information without leaving their office. He/she making it sound like some communist/WEF/government plot is hysterical...  He/she readily and voluntarily gave anyone that wanted it their information.

 

Herbie is just like you, totally clueless as to what you both are trying to say. You two dummies are so wrapped up in your phkn lieberalism that you both have lost trying to make any common sense anymore about anything that you are trying to say here. All you two bozos know how to keep doing is to try and mock and attack conservatives when we try to get you two to start using some common sense and logic. Your emotional lieberalism keeps getting in you way. Just saying, lieberals. LOL.

[Venandi]

12 hours ago, taxme said:

you both have lost trying to make any common sense anymore about anything that you are trying to say here.

Not that so much IMO, it's more like people are simply not tuned in to how this stuff can work against them. This is powerful, it's highly efficient, and there is a huge cool factor in it... as an operator in any capacity, you will quickly become enamoured with it as long as it's on your side. 

It boils down to a matter of trust. Would you have trusted JT with this? Would you trust Trump with it right now? My answer is HELL NO, and based on what I see right here on the forum, the breakdown falls exactly along party lines. The possible difference with me is that I don't trust either side not to abuse it.

I'm going to bold and capitalize the next sentence because I think it's important... there seems to be a fundamental reversal in logic here and I say that even though I fully appreciate that some of the advantages of this comes with huge benefits for everyone. 

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT HAVING ACCESS TO "YOUR STUFF", IT'S ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOUR ACCESS TO (WHAT IS OR SHOULD RIGHTLY BE CONSIDERED) YOUR STUFF AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXERCISE YOUR  RIGHT TO THINGS YOU CONSIDERED AS ABSOLUTE BEFORE THIS CAME ALONG

And again, the question comes down to trust, you may trust this government now but what about the next one; or the one after that?

Machinations within the banking sector in Vietnam is something of a cautionary tale when it comes to the lowest level of freedom imaginable, that being compliance or the ability to simply opt out... punishing people for non-participation is about the lowest threshold of trust I can think of. 

I won't spoil it for you, check it out.

Edited November 8, 2025 by Venandi

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, taxme said:

Insults is the only thing that you can really understand. T

What is there to understand except you are such a pitiful example of a conservative you need to resort to insults, name calling a n cursing...like your LOSER of a leader LOL

[ExFlyer]

14 hours ago, taxme said:

Herbie is just like you, totally clueless as to what you both are trying to say. You two dummies are so wrapped up in your phkn lieberalism that you both have lost trying to make any common sense anymore about anything that you are trying to say here. All you two bozos know how to keep doing is to try and mock and attack conservatives when we try to get you two to start using some common sense and logic. Your emotional lieberalism keeps getting in you way. Just saying, lieberals. LOL.

AHA!!! 

Another poster sees you as a simpleton and makes a valid point so you need to insult both of us.

How sad all you have is cursing, swearing, insults and name calling. So typical of a LOSER conservative.

Can't win the argument so become obnoxious. That is why you keep LOSING LOL

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

Not that so much IMO, it's more like people are simply not tuned in to how this stuff can work against them. This is powerful, it's highly efficient, and there is a huge cool factor in it... as an operator in any capacity, you will quickly become enamoured with it as long as it's on your side. 

It boils down to a matter of trust. Would you have trusted JT with this? Would you trust Trump with it right now? My answer is HELL NO, and based on what I see right here on the forum, the breakdown falls exactly along party lines. The possible difference with me is that I don't trust either side not to abuse it.

I'm going to bold and capitalize the next sentence because I think it's important... there seems to be a fundamental reversal in logic here and I say that even though I fully appreciate that some of the advantages of this comes with huge benefits for everyone. 

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT HAVING ACCESS TO "YOUR STUFF", IT'S ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOUR ACCESS TO (WHAT IS OR SHOULD RIGHTLY BE CONSIDERED) YOUR STUFF AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXERCISE YOUR  RIGHT TO THINGS YOU CONSIDERED AS ABSOLUTE BEFORE THIS CAME ALONG

And again, the question comes down to trust, you may trust this government now but what about the next one; or the one after that?

Machinations within the banking sector in Vietnam is something of a cautionary tale when it comes to the lowest level of freedom imaginable, that being compliance or the ability to simply opt out... punishing people for non-participation is about the lowest threshold of trust I can think of. 

I won't spoil it for you, check it out.

I agree and would like to add that it is not just government that has access to you and your life but anyone that has computer skills.... for good or bad reasons.

Almost every day we learn about one company, corporation, government agency being hacked and personal information is stolen. All because we already have our lives within the Digital ID world.

[Venandi]

On 11/7/2025 at 7:31 PM, herbie said:

I meant you are capable of gathering info from multiple sources to learn something, whereas the guys dissing you aren't.

Not the issue at hand and no one is arguing that isn't the case.... only that it isn't the point of concern.  

19 hours ago, Venandi said:

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT HAVING ACCESS TO "YOUR STUFF", IT'S ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOUR ACCESS TO (WHAT IS OR SHOULD RIGHTLY BE CONSIDERED) YOUR STUFF AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXERCISE YOUR  RIGHT TO THINGS YOU CONSIDERED AS ABSOLUTE BEFORE THIS CAME ALONG

Since I perceive that you aren't a Trump fan I'll use him to illustrate my concern with this.

We will all acknowledge that he can find out virtually anything he wants to know about you. And we're all pretty sure that he could weaponize that information in some manner and use it against you in an effort to influence / modify your actions, movements, access to services etc. He can't realistically (as a practical matter of logistics) use that in a similar coercive manner across the board for the entire population or selected segments of it (like democratic voters) though... and that's a good thing IMO.

SO....

If all of our collective personal data is fused into a convenient easily accessible single source APP do you trust him not to use it in a coercive, manipulative, behaviour modifying  manner?

Do you seriously believe that he wouldn't find a way to weaponize that, or at a minimum seek to capitalize on it in some manner? 

I DON"T TRUST HIM FOR A SECOND... and I don't want to sustemically enable a single point of vulnerability and simply trust him not to exploit it.  

People may opine that China is an extreme example and the dark side of all this could never happen here... 10 years ago I might have agreed with that but I sure don't anymore. 

I think this all boils down to trust and it sounds like you (and others) trust the present Trump and all future Trump's in perpetuity way more than I do. Once implemented, this won't go away.

Off topic a bit but I'd put MAID in the same (potential for abuse) category. As originally conceived, you could probably convince me to go along with it. My hesitation was (and is) based on the sure and certain prospect of it being expanded in a manner I couldn't even think of at the time.... and you wouldn't have either.

If I would have predicted that a veteran (with injuries sustained while serving in Afghanistan) who was seeking financial assistance to build a wheelchair ramp would be offered MAID instead you would have been the first to reply unkindly and call me a liar, Trumper, conspiracy theorist or whatever.

How is it that people who despise the intrusive nature of photo radar aren't the least bit bothered by this?

 

Edited November 9, 2025 by Venandi

[taxme]

On 11/8/2025 at 4:56 AM, Venandi said:

Not that so much IMO, it's more like people are simply not tuned in to how this stuff can work against them. This is powerful, it's highly efficient, and there is a huge cool factor in it... as an operator in any capacity, you will quickly become enamoured with it as long as it's on your side. 

It boils down to a matter of trust. Would you have trusted JT with this? Would you trust Trump with it right now? My answer is HELL NO, and based on what I see right here on the forum, the breakdown falls exactly along party lines. The possible difference with me is that I don't trust either side not to abuse it.

I'm going to bold and capitalize the next sentence because I think it's important... there seems to be a fundamental reversal in logic here and I say that even though I fully appreciate that some of the advantages of this comes with huge benefits for everyone. 

THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT HAVING ACCESS TO "YOUR STUFF", IT'S ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT CONTROLLING YOUR ACCESS TO (WHAT IS OR SHOULD RIGHTLY BE CONSIDERED) YOUR STUFF AND YOUR ABILITY TO EXERCISE YOUR  RIGHT TO THINGS YOU CONSIDERED AS ABSOLUTE BEFORE THIS CAME ALONG

And again, the question comes down to trust, you may trust this government now but what about the next one; or the one after that?

Machinations within the banking sector in Vietnam is something of a cautionary tale when it comes to the lowest level of freedom imaginable, that being compliance or the ability to simply opt out... punishing people for non-participation is about the lowest threshold of trust I can think of. 

I won't spoil it for you, check it out.

Government is the problem, and never the solution and after ten years of lieberal government corruption and what they have already done to Canada in the past ten years, how can anyone in their right mind keeps on wanting to trust and support this liberal Marxist scum in Ottawa. We truly are living in an insane asylum here in Canada. The time for talk is over. It is time for some action in Canada. Just saying.