Poilievre vs Conservatives

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Are the stories about tensions with Houston and Ford completely made up?

Did I say they were. Ford obviously wants the top job and Houston's conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservatives and it's not even remotely the same party. It's like claiming there's friction in the liberal Camp because Carney and smith don't get along. The two have nothing to do with each other. 

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They both could easily have dispelled such well-referenced rumours by making a bigger effort in this election.

Ford is not a CPC conservative. He is in Ontario Progressive conservative. That party has absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservative party. It's clear that he would like to run for the conservative party federally but so did Jean Charest and he's got absolutely nothing to do with the conservatives he was a liberal

 

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All parties have fissures but I’m seeing consistent Tory instability along geographic and political lines. 

You're seeing imaginary fictional things that make you happy. You've taken two parties that have absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservatives at all even a little bit and try to suggest because they're not moving in lockstep with the federal party somehow this is a fracture. It isn't.

When the election is over if the conservatives lose there is going to be a review. There will be serious considerations as to what happened and whether or not the current leader should continue leading. Honestly I suspect he will be invited to continue leading because the result of 39% or better is actually fantastic. And as long as he admits to those things he did that he could have done better and that he'll improve next time then he'll stay. 

I get that your blind hatred tends to cloud you vision but there's just no fractures there. Compare that to when Erin otoole lost, it was pretty obvious there were fractures and the knives came out and that was that. 

 

And i'll remind you, he hasn't lost yet  

 

[SpankyMcFarland]

48 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Did I say they were. Ford obviously wants the top job and Houston's conservatives have absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservatives and it's not even remotely the same party. It's like claiming there's friction in the liberal Camp because Carney and smith don't get along. The two have nothing to do with each other. 

Ford is not a CPC conservative. He is in Ontario Progressive conservative. That party has absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservative party. It's clear that he would like to run for the conservative party federally but so did Jean Charest and he's got absolutely nothing to do with the conservatives he was a liberal

 

You're seeing imaginary fictional things that make you happy. You've taken two parties that have absolutely nothing to do with the federal conservatives at all even a little bit and try to suggest because they're not moving in lockstep with the federal party somehow this is a fracture. It isn't.

When the election is over if the conservatives lose there is going to be a review. There will be serious considerations as to what happened and whether or not the current leader should continue leading. Honestly I suspect he will be invited to continue leading because the result of 39% or better is actually fantastic. And as long as he admits to those things he did that he could have done better and that he'll improve next time then he'll stay. 

I get that your blind hatred tends to cloud you vision but there's just no fractures there. Compare that to when Erin otoole lost, it was pretty obvious there were fractures and the knives came out and that was that. 

 

And i'll remind you, he hasn't lost yet  

 

I never said he had. Who can say? 

But I am a little surprised about the way you talk about Progressive Conservatives. Their voters vote too. 
 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 02:17 AM by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

44 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

I never said he had. Who can say? 

But I am a little surprised about the way you talk about Progressive Conservatives. Their voters vote too. 
 

I never mentioned their voters. I talked about the party. And the only 'way' i talked about even the party  is that they're not CPC's. different party entirely. 

Which is entirely true.  So i'm not sure why that would surprise you. 

For ages people in bc voted for the liberal party if they were conservative and the conservative party federally. Different parties. 

And it would be quite wrong to think that voters choose the same federal party as provincial.  In fact the opposite tends to be true.  For most of the time when there's a liberal federal gov't the ontario people vote "conservative'  provincially, and when it's a liberal gov't provincially they go conservative federally. 

The only party that's basically the same federally as provincially is the ndp, their charter calls for that.