Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 4 hours ago, Radiorum said: You've bought Trump's delusion, hook, line and sinker. Say that again, only this time pull your head out of the left's ass. Quote
Aristides Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 25 minutes ago, Deluge said: Say that again, only this time pull your head out of the left's ass. Either MAGA's have their heads up their ass or they want a dictatorship. 2 Quote
Hodad Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 9 hours ago, Aristides said: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-democracy-report-1.7486317 If Americans read this summary of events in any other country we would all recognize it for what it is. ...pardoning 1,500 criminals who supported him; firing independent agency watchdogs without process; purging apolitical police and military brass; ignoring laws; and his unilaterally deleting federal programs, and even a whole organization, created by U.S. Congress. He's just called his predecessor's pardons void and vacated. He gave a bitterly partisan speech at the Department of Justice, demanding the prosecution of the media and certain adversaries. He threatened numerous universities with sanctions. He invoked a 227-year-old war measures law during peacetime — for the first time ever — to deport accused gang members without due process. And, most importantly, when that deportation plan wound up in court, he may have — although it's still in dispute — defied a court order, cracking the ultimate constitutional safeguard. Today's Republicans, however, will pretend that it's not happening. They are eagerly trading democracy to advance their agenda. They simply don't believe in America as an idea. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 10 hours ago, Aristides said: Either MAGA's have their heads up their ass or they want a dictatorship. That's your TDS talking. Go take your meds. Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Hodad said: If Americans read this summary of events in any other country we would all recognize it for what it is. ...pardoning 1,500 criminals who supported him; firing independent agency watchdogs without process; purging apolitical police and military brass; ignoring laws; and his unilaterally deleting federal programs, and even a whole organization, created by U.S. Congress. He's just called his predecessor's pardons void and vacated. He gave a bitterly partisan speech at the Department of Justice, demanding the prosecution of the media and certain adversaries. He threatened numerous universities with sanctions. He invoked a 227-year-old war measures law during peacetime — for the first time ever — to deport accused gang members without due process. And, most importantly, when that deportation plan wound up in court, he may have — although it's still in dispute — defied a court order, cracking the ultimate constitutional safeguard. Today's Republicans, however, will pretend that it's not happening. They are eagerly trading democracy to advance their agenda. They simply don't believe in America as an idea. See, this is why your global democracy doesn't work in our constitutional republic. 1. 1,500 political prisoners, NOT criminals. I'm hearing most, if not all, weren't even given a fair trial. 2. Firing, purging, ignoring, deleting all within the authority of the Executive Branch. I expect the SC to back all of it. 3. Voided pardons: I love it - they were all scumbag criminals. 4. Partisan speech: absolutely necessary when the country is dealing with left-wing radicals in its own backyard. 5. Threatening universities with sanctions is absolutely necessary. If we can't talk the woke out of them then we'll scare the woke out of them. Either way, the woke has to be purged. 4. Peacetime ended when Biden opened the borders. Those illegal aliens are also foreign terrorists, and Biden was their former commander in chief. Everything Trump is doing is necessary to save our Constitutional Republic. Have a problem with that? Then please, get the f*ck out. I'm sure Ellen Degenerate and the other woke cultists would welcome you to their new home countries with open arms. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Hodad said: He invoked a 227-year-old war measures law during peacetime — for the first time ever — to deport accused gang members without due process. And when the federal judge ruled that Trump couldn't use that law for deportation, this is how Trump responded in a post on Truth Social: This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! It's so clear that Trump has gone mad with power. Trump's response drew a rare rebuke from the Supreme Court Chief Justice: In response to media requests for comment about Trump’s online remarks, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. issued a rare public statement. “For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision,” he wrote. “The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.” 2 Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Hodad said: If Americans read this summary of events in any other country we would all recognize it for what it is. When you can articulate an actual substantive argument, let us know. Quote
Aristides Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 (edited) 12 minutes ago, User said: When you can articulate an actual substantive argument, let us know. Another nothing pist from someone who has no substantive response. The free world is watching and it is appalled. Edited March 19 by Aristides 1 Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 20 minutes ago, Radiorum said: And when the federal judge ruled that Trump couldn't use that law for deportation, this is how Trump responded in a post on Truth Social: This Radical Left Lunatic of a Judge, a troublemaker and agitator who was sadly appointed by Barack Hussein Obama, was not elected President - He didn’t WIN the popular VOTE (by a lot!), he didn’t WIN ALL SEVEN SWING STATES, he didn’t WIN 2,750 to 525 Counties, HE DIDN’T WIN ANYTHING! I WON FOR MANY REASONS, IN AN OVERWHELMING MANDATE, BUT FIGHTING ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION MAY HAVE BEEN THE NUMBER ONE REASON FOR THIS HISTORIC VICTORY. I’m just doing what the VOTERS wanted me to do. This judge, like many of the Crooked Judges’ I am forced to appear before, should be IMPEACHED!!! WE DON’T WANT VICIOUS, VIOLENT, AND DEMENTED CRIMINALS, MANY OF THEM DERANGED MURDERERS, IN OUR COUNTRY. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!! It's so clear that Trump has gone mad with power. Trump's response drew a rare rebuke from the Supreme Court Chief Justice: In response to media requests for comment about Trump’s online remarks, Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. issued a rare public statement. “For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision,” he wrote. “The normal appellate review process exists for that purpose.” That judge IS a radical left lunatic. Trump is doing what needs to be done. 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Another nothing pist from someone who has no substantive response. The free world is watching and it is appalled. You mean "the woke world is watching" but we don't give a shit. Quote
Aristides Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 (edited) American exceptionalism was a myth. Most knew it only existed in their heads but still wouldn’t have expected this. Edited March 19 by Aristides D Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Another nothing pist from someone who has no substantive response. The free world is watching and it is appalled. The "free world" that has more controls on speech than we do? Sending armed SWAT looking police teams to wake people up and arrest them over social media posts? Arresting people for standing silently and praying too close to an abortion clinic? Punishing a nurse for daring to speak out against the Transgender madness or to support JK Rowling? Yeah, your notions of the free world are severely lacking. 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: American exceptionalism was a myth. Then why are you still here? Quote
Radiorum Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, Deluge said: That judge IS a radical left lunatic. Well, if Trump said it, it must be true. /s 9 minutes ago, Deluge said: Trump is doing what needs to be done. So, you accept him breaking the law? You accept him ignoring a judge's order? You gladly give him dictatorial powers? These deportees were not given due process. You can be sure some of them were not gang members at all. Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 1 minute ago, Radiorum said: So, you accept him breaking the law? You accept him ignoring a judge's order? You gladly give him dictatorial powers? These deportees were not given due process. You can be sure some of them were not gang members at all. What law did he break? What order did he ignore? What dictatorial powers does he have? Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 4 minutes ago, Radiorum said: So, you accept him breaking the law? You accept him ignoring a judge's order? You gladly give him dictatorial powers? These deportees were not given due process. You can be sure some of them were not gang members at all. Breaking what law? He's acting within the authority of the US President. You think some piece of shit activist judge can take control of the Executive Branch? Those deportees are illegal aliens. It's within the authority of the President to deport illegal aliens. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 Your democracy is being dismantled before your eyes and you either approve or are too stupid to recognize it. 1 1 Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 6 minutes ago, Aristides said: Your democracy is being dismantled before your eyes and you either approve or are too stupid to recognize it. How is it being dismantled? We may be too stupid to recognize it... but you certainly have not demonstrated any ability to articulate how it is happening either. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 20 minutes ago, User said: What law did he break? What order did he ignore? What dictatorial powers does he have? The judge ordered the plane turned around. Trump openly defied the order, thus breaking the law. There is something called "checks and balances". The judicial branch is a check on power grabs by the president. The president was acting outside of his powers when he deported all those people for no other reason than his say-so that "they are bad people." A president should not have that power. It is dictatorial. If the deportees had been given due process, we would have found out that some were not gang members at all. When the president overpowers the law, that is dictatorial. 1 1 Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 3 minutes ago, Aristides said: Your democracy is being dismantled before your eyes and you either approve or are too stupid to recognize it. We're not interested in YOUR brand of democracy; we're interested in OUR constitutional republic. For example: that piece of shit activist judge should've gone after Biden for letting illegal aliens IN, not after Trump for getting illegal aliens OUT. Global Democracy = illegal aliens IN the US. Constitutional Republic = illegal aliens OUT of the US. Get it? Quote
Hodad Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 19 minutes ago, Aristides said: American exceptionalism was a myth. Most knew it only existed in their heads but still wouldn’t have expected this. That's not quite right. It wasn't a myth. It was a product of belief, but the product was real. By aspiring to greatness we became greater. From the founding onward we had a mission to become a more perfect union, and a roadmap by which to do that. The abandonment of that mission is the great tragedy of this century, and it's a loss that will be felt globally. All traded away for sake of spite. Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 Just now, Radiorum said: The judge ordered the plane turned around. Trump openly defied the order, thus breaking the law. There is something called "checks and balances". The judicial branch is a check on power grabs by the president. The president was acting outside of his powers when he deported all those people for no other reason than his say-so that "they are bad people." A president should not have that power. It is dictatorial. If the deportees had been given due process, we would have found out that some were not gang members at all. When the president overpowers the law, that is dictatorial. The Judge... failed to put that specifically in his written order. Nothing was openly defied. Trump administration outlined all this in their response. I am well aware of the notion of checks and balances. Trump invoked the law here in his actions. There is a legal process to challenge his use of the law, but that doesn't mean he violated any laws here. Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Radiorum said: 1. The judge ordered the plane turned around. Trump openly defied the order, thus breaking the law. 2. There is something called "checks and balances". The judicial branch is a check on power grabs by the president. The president was acting outside of his powers when he deported all those people for no other reason than his say-so that "they are bad people." A president should not have that power. It is dictatorial. 3. If the deportees had been given due process, we would have found out that some were not gang members at all. 4. When the president overpowers the law, that is dictatorial. 1. And that a$$hole judge is overstepping his bounds. I fully expect the SC to revoke his license. 2. The Judicial Branch is to uphold the law, not break it. Ordering illegal aliens back into the country is AGAINST the law. 3. Illegal aliens can file for due process in Mexico, not here in the US. The first and most important thing to do is get their asses out of the country. They can file for whatever they want OUTSIDE of the country. 4. The President's primary function is to protect this country, not kowtow to illegal alien advocates. Edited March 19 by Deluge Quote
Radiorum Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: The President's primary function is to protect this country, not kowtow to activist judges. It's amazing what can be done in the name of "protecting the country." So, you do accept a dictator as president. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted March 19 Author Report Posted March 19 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: It's amazing what can be done in the name of "protecting the country." So, you do accept a dictator as president. What's wrong with deporting illegal aliens? Why are you supporting judges that want illegal aliens in our country? I accept a patriot as president. Edited March 19 by Deluge Quote
User Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 2 minutes ago, Radiorum said: It's amazing what can be done in the name of "protecting the country." So, you do accept a dictator as president. Nope, Trump was acting within the law here. Quote
Radiorum Posted March 19 Report Posted March 19 8 minutes ago, User said: Trump invoked the law here in his actions. There is a legal process to challenge his use of the law, but that doesn't mean he violated any laws here. What Trump did was stage a massive spectacle for the viewing pleasure of his base. It's too bad that adherence to the law was lost as collateral damage. 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: Why are you supporting judges that want illegal aliens in our country? I am supporting the rule of law. 2 minutes ago, Deluge said: I accept a patriot as president. A true patriot would respect the rule of law. 1 Quote
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