West Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/quebec-premier-wants-to-ban-praying-in-public/ People claim freedoms are not being eroded yet here Quebec is talking about putting someone in prison if they say grace at a family picnic outdoors. Canada has become sick and is showing all the signs of totalitarianism that's found under the nazis and communist China 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, West said: People claim freedoms are not being eroded yet here Quebec is talking about putting someone in prison if they say grace at a family picnic outdoors. Canada has become sick and is showing all the signs of totalitarianism that's found under the nazis and communist China Yeah, Legault wants to go too far. Keep religion out of government and public schools, etc... but people should have the right to dress or pray as they want in public, if they're not causing a nuisance. But you go too far with that second sentence. Hopefully common sense will prevail on this issue. Quote
West Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 37 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Yeah, Legault wants to go too far. Keep religion out of government and public schools, etc... but people should have the right to dress or pray as they want in public, if they're not causing a nuisance. But you go too far with that second sentence. Hopefully common sense will prevail on this issue. That line didn't go far enough. Targeting someone at a picnic for saying grace is vile and would be found under an authoritarian regime, not Canada. You'd also have a point if the secularists weren't trying to force the religion of woke onto five year olds Quote
Venandi Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Hopefully common sense will prevail on this issue. Rooting for you but I'm not so sure anymore. Common sense would suggest that people who don't even care about it (non Christians in this case) would be just as horrified by the overreach as those directly affected. We used to be that way as a nation, or at least as a community. It's much meaner and more polarized now and people don't give the slightest thought to what happens when it's their bull getting gored. When it eventually does happen they'll ask why aren't you on my side? Why aren't you supporting me? Why aren't you signing my petition? Thy'll say things like "look where this is going, how did we get here?" You can see that surprise and dismay right here in some of the comments about Trump's EOs, it's as if the people making those comments were expecting another outcome. Might just be me but we would govern ourselves more wisely if everyone had to do 3 peacekeeping tours before getting a vote. Knowing what you don't want is just as important as knowing what you do. Quote
West Posted February 19 Author Report Posted February 19 13 minutes ago, Venandi said: Rooting for you but I'm not so sure anymore. Common sense would suggest that people who don't even care about it (non Christians in this case) would be just as horrified by the overreach as those directly affected. We used to be that way as a nation, or at least as a community. It's much meaner and more polarized now and people don't give the slightest thought to what happens when it's their bull getting gored. When it eventually does happen they'll ask why aren't you on my side? Why aren't you supporting me? Why aren't you signing my petition? Thy'll say things like "look where this is going, how did we get here?" You can see that surprise and dismay right here in some of the comments about Trump's EOs, it's as if the people making those comments were expecting another outcome. Might just be me but we would govern ourselves more wisely if everyone had to do 3 peacekeeping tours before getting a vote. Knowing what you don't want is just as important as knowing what you do. Look, All I want is to say grace at a family BBQ without 1. Being afraid of being pick up by the left wing SS 2. Worrying about my child seeing some grown man's ball sack at a parade near said park in the name of inclusion 3. Worrying about some whacko detunating explosives because they don't like my nationality. If one can live in peace without the constant barrage of left wing activism infiltrating every corner of society we'd be much better off imo Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 6 hours ago, West said: https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/quebec-premier-wants-to-ban-praying-in-public/ People claim freedoms are not being eroded yet here Quebec is talking about putting someone in prison if they say grace at a family picnic outdoors. Canada has become sick and is showing all the signs of totalitarianism that's found under the nazis and communist China It’s true. Canada now has court supported discrimination against whites by allowing racialized only jobs. Quebec’s Bill 20 discriminates against religious expression. We have so much recent legislation that targets speech. Canadian governments have forgotten the value and meaning of rights. The courts seem afraid to defend them. It makes me question what we’re defending when we talk about standing up for Canada. Edited February 20 by Zeitgeist Quote
Venandi Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Canadian governments have forgotten the value and meaning of rights. True enough, but I think you could just as easily insert "Canadian voters" into the quote. I say that as one concerned by the uptick in liberal support, not saying it translates into seats but I'm a disappointed in the willingness of some voters to remain on course to Crazy Island. Edited February 20 by Venandi Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Venandi said: True enough, but I think you could just as easily insert "Canadian voters" into the quote. I say as one who's a bit troubled by the uptick in liberal support, not saying it translates into seats but I'm a disappointed in the willingness to remain on course to Crazy Island. I feel like we don’t have a strong values-based why for what we do as a country, other than finding schemes to get free stuff, though of course the money comes from workers and future generations in the form of debt. Edited February 20 by Zeitgeist Quote
West Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 27 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: It’s true. Canada now has court supported discrimination against whites by allowing racialized only jobs. Quebec’s Bill 20 discriminates against religious expression. We have so much recent legislation that targets speech. Canadian governments have forgotten the value and meaning of rights. The courts seem afraid to defend them. It makes me question what we’re defending when we talk about standing up for Canada. Exactly. Hard to stand up for Canada when the country looks more like communist China or Iran than it does a western democracy Quote
Zeitgeist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 20 minutes ago, West said: Exactly. Hard to stand up for Canada when the country looks more like communist China or Iran than it does a western democracy Yup. It’s so obvious that Quebec has embraced “secularism” as a means of erasing Islam. They made the foolish mistake of throwing out their own culture and religion (Christianity) during the Quiet Revolution. Now they prance around imposing fascist language laws and suppress religious expression to fill the vacuum. The secularists have allied with the LGBTQ2S+ lobbyists to go after speech by trying to eliminate your ability to express yourself according to your beliefs and conscience. It’s absolutely the Cultural Marxist revolution in action. The federal Liberals have done nothing to stop it. Is this the Canada most Canadians really want? Quote
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