robosmith Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Trump LIES, Zelensky 'should have never started' war with Russia The Hill https://thehill.com › homenews › administration › 5151... 7 hours ago — President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine's leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr ... Quote
Scott75 Posted February 19 Report Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Trump LIES, Zelensky 'should have never started' war with Russia The Hill https://thehill.com › homenews › administration › 5151... 7 hours ago — President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine's leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr ... Trump may not be the most eloquent in his speeches, but he's right on this. I'll quote from the article you referenced and then give my takes as well as evidence for them. ** “I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials. “But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.” Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky. “Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.” ** I certainly think it's possible that Mr. Trump has made more headway in ending this war in the last few weeks than Biden made in the last 3 years. I also fully agree that this war should have ended before now, as well as his statement that, ideally, it should never have started. I think that the best single article with a ton of information detailing what got Russia to start its military operation in Ukraine is one from former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud. It can be seen here: https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/ As to Trump's claim that Zelensky could have made a deal that would have given Ukraine almost all of the land, I suspect he's referring to the peace deal that almost was that happened shortly after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began. An article getting into this can be seen here: The Lost Peace? - Russian-Ukrainian peace talks, February–March 2022 | The Nation What Trump doesn't get into is how the west encouraged Zelensky not to take the deal that Russia was offering. The article above fills in that missing piece of information. Edited February 19 by Scott75 1 Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 20 hours ago, Scott75 said: Trump may not be the most eloquent in his speeches, but he's right on this. I'll quote from the article you referenced and then give my takes as well as evidence for them. ** “I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials. “But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.” Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky. “Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.” ** I certainly think it's possible that Mr. Trump has made more headway in ending this war in the last few weeks than Biden made in the last 3 years. I also fully agree that this war should have ended before now, as well as his statement that, ideally, it should never have started. I think that the best single article with a ton of information detailing what got Russia to start its military operation in Ukraine is one from former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud. It can be seen here: https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/ As to Trump's claim that Zelensky could have made a deal that would have given Ukraine almost all of the land, I suspect he's referring to the peace deal that almost was that happened shortly after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began. An article getting into this can be seen here: The Lost Peace? - Russian-Ukrainian peace talks, February–March 2022 | The Nation What Trump doesn't get into is how the west encouraged Zelensky not to take the deal that Russia was offering. The article above fills in that missing piece of information. So you posted q quote in which Trump clearly LIED TWICE. And you believe that is valuable. It's NOT; it just proves again that Trump is a pathological LIAR. Ending the war is not valuable when Putine gets everything he wanted. Bullies are ONLY ENCOURAGED when they get what they want. Quote
Matthew Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 21 hours ago, Scott75 said: Trump may not be the most eloquent Lying isn't lack of eloquence. 21 hours ago, Scott75 said: Trump has made more headway Well by siding with Russia and conceding most of their demands even before the talks begin. Quote
Scott75 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, robosmith said: 22 hours ago, Scott75 said: Trump may not be the most eloquent in his speeches, but he's right on this. I'll quote from the article you referenced and then give my takes as well as evidence for them. ** “I think I have the power to end this war. And I think it’s going very well,” Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago on the heels of the meeting between U.S. and Russian officials. “But today I heard, ‘Oh, well we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.” Trump went on to rail against former President Biden as “so pathetic” before again criticizing Zelensky. “Look, you have leadership — and I like him personally. He’s fine. But I don’t care about personally. I care about getting the job done. You have leadership now that’s allowed a war to go on that should have never even happened, even without the United States.” ** I certainly think it's possible that Mr. Trump has made more headway in ending this war in the last few weeks than Biden made in the last 3 years. I also fully agree that this war should have ended before now, as well as his statement that, ideally, it should never have started. I think that the best single article with a ton of information detailing what got Russia to start its military operation in Ukraine is one from former Swiss Intelligence Officer Jacques Baud. It can be seen here: https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/ As to Trump's claim that Zelensky could have made a deal that would have given Ukraine almost all of the land, I suspect he's referring to the peace deal that almost was that happened shortly after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began. An article getting into this can be seen here: The Lost Peace? - Russian-Ukrainian peace talks, February–March 2022 | The Nation What Trump doesn't get into is how the west encouraged Zelensky not to take the deal that Russia was offering. The article above fills in that missing piece of information. So you posted q quote in which Trump clearly LIED TWICE. What are the 2 things you believe Trump lied about? 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Ending the war is not valuable when Putine gets everything he wanted. Oh, I'm pretty sure that Putin won't get everything he wants by the end of this war. I -am- pretty sure that Putin will get everything he believes he -needs- before he'll end this war though. If something happens to him, I doubt Russia would change direction- on the contrary, I think its position could become even more hardline. Here's a quote from the third President of Russia on the recent talk between Trump and Putin: ** Third President of Russia Dmitry Medvedev: The presidents of Russia and the US have talked at last. This is very important in and of itself. The previous US administration cut off all high-level contacts in an attempt to punish and humiliate Russia. As a result, the world was balancing on the brink of the Apocalypse. How did we get there? It just so happened at some point that the US appointed itself the country-in-chief on our planet with the exclusive right to wage a hybrid war against our people, to mete out justice and grant pardons. It was a grave mistake, which nearly wiped humanity off the face of the earth. Nobody attempted something like that before senile Biden’s team. It’s true that we would hold shouting matches with America and sometimes practiced brinkmanship, but nobody slapped personal sanctions on Khrushchev during the Cuban Missile Crisis or on Brezhnev during the conflict in Afghanistan or severed contacts between the heads of state. On the contrary, the leaders kept lines of communication open, which helped resolve crises. ** Source: ‘It is impossible to bring us to our knees’: Russia reacts to Putin-Trump phone call | RT I will say that I think there is, in fact, a way to bring Russia to its knees. It's just that it involves bringing the entire world to its knees as well. As an army Lieutenant once put it: “I am not sure what kind of weapons will be used in World War III, but I am damned sure that World War IV will be fought with spears.” Source: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2010/06/16/future-weapons/ Edited February 20 by Scott75 Quote
Scott75 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Matthew said: 22 hours ago, Scott75 said: Trump may not be the most eloquent in his speeches [snip] Lying isn't lack of eloquence. What do you think he lied about? 1 hour ago, Matthew said: 22 hours ago, Scott75 said: I certainly think it's possible that Mr. Trump has made more headway in ending this war in the last few weeks than Biden made in the last 3 years. Well by siding with Russia and conceding most of their demands even before the talks begin. Russia knows that the most important talks need to be with the U.S. They're the only ones capable of bringing Russia to its knees. I think they only way they could do that would bring the entire -world- to its knees, though. I am happy that Trump wants to avoid this path. Recently, well known political realist John Mearsheimer had what I believe was a very informative and concise conversation on CNN wherein he explained the current situation. It can be seen here: https://video.snapstream.net/Play/aTFPXuWkeNiiRG4aihZMKP?accessToken=cnyhersn3kpab Quote
Matthew Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 5 hours ago, Scott75 said: What do you think he lied about? Claiming that Ukraine started the war in which Russia invaded their country. Quote
Scott75 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 1 hour ago, Matthew said: 7 hours ago, Scott75 said: 8 hours ago, Matthew said: Lying isn't lack of eloquence. What do you think he lied about? Claiming that Ukraine started the war in which Russia invaded their country. While it's true that Russia was the first country to literally cross the other's border, Ukraine's military clearly antagonized Russia into doing so. I think it's perfectly understandable that you wouldn't know this, however, as the mainstream media has done a terrible job of informing the public of this fact. I myself was unaware of it until I read an article from a former Swiss Intelligence Officer named Jacques Baud. Mr Baud set the record straight in this article he wrote shortly after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began. The translated article in question can be seen here: https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/ Quoting the most relevant passage in relation to the question of who started this war: ** On February 17 [2022], President Joe Biden announces that Russia will attack Ukraine in the coming days. How does he know? Mystery… But since the 16th, the artillery shelling of the populations of Donbass has increased dramatically, as shown by the daily reports of OSCE observers. Naturally, neither the media, nor the European Union, nor NATO, nor any Western government reacts and intervenes. We will say later that this is Russian disinformation. In fact, it seems that the European Union and some countries purposely glossed over the massacre of the people of Donbass, knowing that it would provoke Russian intervention. [snip] In fact, as early as February 16, Joe Biden knows that the Ukrainians began to shell the civilian populations of Donbass, putting Vladimir Putin in front of a difficult choice: to help Donbass militarily and create an international problem or to sit idle and watch Russian speakers from the Donbass being run over. If he decides to intervene, Vladimir Putin can invoke the international obligation of “ Responsibility To Protect ” (R2P). But he knows that whatever its nature or scale, the intervention will trigger a shower of sanctions. Therefore, whether its intervention is limited to the Donbass or whether it goes further to put pressure on the West for the status of Ukraine, the price to be paid will be the same. This is what he explains in his speech on February 21. That day, he acceded to the request of the Duma and recognized the independence of the two Republics of Donbass and, in the process, he signed treaties of friendship and assistance with them. The Ukrainian artillery bombardments on the populations of Donbass continued and, on February 23, the two Republics requested military aid from Russia. On the 24th, Vladimir Putin invokes Article 51 of the United Nations Charter which provides for mutual military assistance within the framework of a defensive alliance. In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately obscure the fact that the war actually started on February 16th. The Ukrainian army was preparing to attack the Donbass as early as 2021, as certain Russian and European intelligence services were well aware… The lawyers will judge. ** Edited February 20 by Scott75 Added information Quote
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 @Scott75 you're taking these folks to school eh? I commend your efforts but...few will accept the truth. All they seem to understand is "Russia Bad" and now even Trump supporters are saying "Orangemanbad". Social engineering seems to wash truth away quite effectively. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Scott75 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: @Scott75 you're taking these folks to school eh? I commend your efforts but...few will accept the truth. All they seem to understand is "Russia Bad" and now even Trump supporters are saying "Orangemanbad". Social engineering seems to wash truth away quite effectively. I once thought the same things. Before Covid, I was firmly on the left, with the lone exception of gun control. In 2020, if I had been American, I would have voted for Biden, though I much preferred Bernie. As far as I'm concerned, a lot of the left went insane when Covid came around. Similarly, I initially thought Russia was the bad guy when Russia started its military operation in Ukraine. It took a lot of reading for me to see this wasn't the case. Now, you're probably right that few who are on the other side of this debate will accept this truth. But I have seen a few at least waver in their beliefs. So considering the stakes could literally be as high as nuclear armageddon, I think it's worth some of my time. I fully admit that I never thought that Trump would have to remind the press that Russia isn't just some country that the U.S. can roll over. Edited February 20 by Scott75 1 Quote
Matthew Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 58 minutes ago, Scott75 said: On February 17 [2022], President Joe Biden announces that Russia will attack Ukraine in the coming days. How does he know? Mystery Not a mystery. Putin had been openly talking about it. They even had a televised meeting 3 days before, where Russian ministers had to stand and publicly declare their approval for the invasion. 1 hour ago, Scott75 said: In order to make the Russian intervention totally illegal in the eyes of the public we deliberately obscure the fact that the war actually started on February 16th False. A Russian commando unit led by Igor Girkin invaded the Donbas region on April 12th 2014 and seized the city of Sloviansk. Ukraine began retaliating at that time, which continued until Russia escallated to a full iinvasion of Ukraine in 2022. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Scott75 said: I once thought the same things. Before Covid, I was firmly on the left, with the lone exception of gun control. In 2020, if I had been American, I would have voted for Biden, though I much preferred Bernie. As far as I'm concerned, a lot of the left went insane when Covid came around. Similarly, I initially thought Russia was the bad guy when Russia started its military operation in Ukraine. It took a lot of reading for me to see this wasn't the case. Now, you're probably right that few who are on the other side of this debate will accept this truth. But I have seen a few at least waver in their beliefs. So considering the stakes could literally be as high as nuclear armageddon, I think it's worth some of my time. I fully admit that I never thought that Trump would have to remind the press that Russia isn't just some country that the U.S. can roll over. Trying to operate one's self on pure truth is a difficult thing. We are, after all, very emotional beings. And don't fool yourself. Putin is no "good guy" in general. But neither is Trump and Zelinsky is...well...he's simply a puppet. The fact is, there are no real "good guys" involved in this mess. Even Trump contributed to its making. However...this war must be ended. If Trump has to make a deal with the Devil to do it...so be it. I often am reminded of something Donny-Boy said while running for his first term. Roughly it was, 'Why should the USA and Russia be enemies? Wouldn't an alliance work out better for everyone concerned?' In that I fully agree. Not that the Russians can be completely trusted but, neither can the USA or NATO. A formal alliance between the two would solve a lot of current global issues though and I think it might be time to explore that avenue. Always remember..."The truth shall set you free." Edited February 20 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Scott75 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Matthew said: 2 hours ago, Scott75 said: While it's true that Russia was the first country to literally cross the other's border, Ukraine's military clearly antagonized Russia into doing so. I think it's perfectly understandable that you wouldn't know this, however, as the mainstream media has done a terrible job of informing the public of this fact. I myself was unaware of it until I read an article from a former Swiss Intelligence Officer named Jacques Baud. Mr Baud set the record straight in this article he wrote shortly after Russia's military operation in Ukraine began. The translated article in question can be seen here: https://scheerpost.com/2022/04/09/former-nato-military-analyst-blows-the-whistle-on-wests-ukraine-invasion-narrative/ Quoting the most relevant passage in relation to the question of who started this war: ** On February 17 [2022], President Joe Biden announces that Russia will attack Ukraine in the coming days. How does he know? Mystery… ** Not a mystery. Putin had been openly talking about it. Can you quote him doing so? 1 hour ago, Matthew said: They even had a televised meeting 3 days before, where Russian ministers had to stand and publicly declare their approval for the invasion. Could you link to this alleged meeting? I know that 3 days before Russia's military operation, Putin made a speech saying that he was recognizing the Donbass Republics. I've looked through the speech, he makes no mention of starting a military operation in it. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 On 2/18/2025 at 9:51 PM, robosmith said: 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Trump LIES, Zelensky 'should have never started' war with Russia The Hill https://thehill.com › homenews › administration › 5151... 7 hours ago — President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine's leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr ... It's utterly pathetic to take what Trump said then and then crank out that pile of horseshit. “But today I heard, ‘Oh, well, we weren’t invited.’ Well, you’ve been there for three years,” Trump continued, referring to Ukraine. “You should’ve ended it in three years. You should have never started it. You could have made a deal. I could have made a deal for Ukraine that would have given them almost all of the land, and no people would have been killed, and no city would have been demolished and not one dome would have been knocked down. But they chose not to do it that way.” Trump is 100% correct: the war truly never had to take place. Russia has been crystal clear for years that "Ukraine joining NATO was stepping across their red line". Sure, it's 100% true that Ukraine is a sovereign nation, and Russia can't tell them not to join NATO, so now you just have to look at all the carnage and the revised map and consider whether or not it was all worth it to just to try to shove NATO up their arse. More hilarious reporting from the trolls: While Trump has stressed he wants an end to the killing, he and some administration officials have made comments in the past week that have alarmed allies and some lawmakers: Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth called it “unrealistic” for Ukraine to return to its pre-2014 borders as part of a ceasefire agreement with Russia, or to gain NATO membership. Is it unrealistic to ask Russia to just give up all the territory that it gained during the war? Oh, I dunno, how does that usually go with wars? "Yeah, we just won that territory in a war, so now we're just giving it all back" - said no one ever. If someone wants to take that land back from Russia, they're gonna have to do it the old-fashioned way. Is it worth it? ROBO: IF BIDEN COULDN'T PREVENT THE WAR, AND ALL OF HIS HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AID COULDN'T PREVENT RUSSIA FROM WINNG THAT TERRITORY, HOW IS TRUMP SUPPOSED TO GET ALL THAT LAND BACK WITH MERE WORDS? "Uhhhh, the great Joe Biden couldn't prevent the war, or help Ukraine win, but I'm pretty sure that Trump can reverse all that just by talking." 🤣 OMG, Robo. You must think that Trump is a god if you think he can do that. Holy old f-face are you ever stupid. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 @WestCanMan I already told you the ONLY way Trump could end the war as he LIED and promised "before taking office" was to surrender Ukraine to Putin. The rest of your BULLSHIT is irrelevant verbal surrender to Putin. 🤮 Trump Vowed to End the Ukraine War Before Taking Office. ... The New York Times https://www.nytimes.com › U.S. › Politics Jan 19, 2025 — Donald J. Trump's promise to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine in 24 hours, “before I even become president,” proved to be untrue. Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 11 hours ago, Scott75 said: What are the 2 things you believe Trump lied about? He called Zelenskiy a "dictator" (he was elected) and said Zelenskiy started the war. Duh 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, robosmith said: @WestCanMan I already told you the ONLY way Trump could end the war as he LIED and promised "before taking office" was to surrender Ukraine to Putin. Robo, I already told you that Biden had a chance to end this war with zero deaths, and Ukraine's border wouldn't have changed, and the US wouldn't have wasted $300 billion. I already told you that there's no way that Russia was going to give back all the land they lost in a costly war. NO ONE DOES THAT. Guess what people do when they're losing a war dumbass... they surrender. Ukraine wasn't going to win all that land back themselves, and no one wants to go to war against Russia. 1 hour ago, robosmith said: He called Zelenskiy a "dictator" (he was elected) and said Zelenskiy started the war. Duh 1) To be fair, the opposition members were kicked out of government, and Zelensky seized control of all the media outlets in the country. 2) Hitler and Trudeau were elected too... 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Deluge Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) On 2/18/2025 at 10:51 PM, robosmith said: 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 🤮 Trump LIES, Zelensky 'should have never started' war with Russia The Hill https://thehill.com › homenews › administration › 5151... 7 hours ago — President Trump on Tuesday appeared to blame Ukraine's leaders for the three-year war with Russia, arguing Ukrainian President Volodymyr ... Zelensky and Obama - we can't forget the mendacity behind that America hating piece of shit. Edited February 20 by Deluge Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Robo, I already told you that Biden had a chance to end this war with zero deaths, and Ukraine's border wouldn't have changed, and the US wouldn't have wasted $300 billion. I already told you that there's no way that Russia was going to give back all the land they lost in a costly war. NO ONE DOES THAT. Guess what people do when they're losing a war dumbass... they surrender. Ukraine wasn't going to win all that land back themselves, and no one wants to go to war against Russia. I posted EVIDENCE and ^this is just DRIVEL 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 1) To be fair, the opposition members were kicked out of government, and Zelensky seized control of all the media outlets in the country. Impeached UNANIMOUSLY, and ran away to MOSCOW. 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 2) Hitler and Trudeau were elected too... And then Hitler destroyed democracy like Trump is DOING NOW. Even Lindsey Graham said he broke the law when he FIRED 18 IG without meeting the REQUIREMENTS spelled out in the law. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 45 minutes ago, robosmith said: I posted EVIDENCE and ^this is just DRIVEL That's all 100% true, you just don't like it. Why couldn't Biden end this war, dummy? Why did Biden never even talk about peace, dummy? What changed so drastically in Jan 2021, dummy? What changed so drastically in Jan 2025, dummy? Why do you have no facts or answers, just opinions? Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
robosmith Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That's all 100% true, you just don't like it. Why couldn't Biden end this war, dummy? Because he didn't want to surrender, DUMMY 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Why did Biden never even talk about peace, dummy? YOU don't know what he talked about DUMMY 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: What changed so drastically in Jan 2021, dummy? We got a POTUS who RESPECTS THE LAW, DUMMY 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: What changed so drastically in Jan 2025, dummy? We got a POTUS with NO RESPECT for the LAW and PROMISED to practice LAWFARE, DUMMY 25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Why do you have no facts or answers, just opinions? That's ALL you posted HERE. I posted EVIDENCE which PROVES Trump LIED about HIM ending the war. DUMMY Quote
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