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Posted
1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Prove it.  Show me where you see that.  So far he's been the opposite of justin.  

They both want power and will say and withhold virtually anything it takes to attain and hang on to it.  Carney is also no different than Poilievre.

I know it's quite popularly believed the distribution of wealth is the only end all and be all everyone should be concerned with but AFAIC the distribution of power is of a far greater and badly unappreciated importance.

I really think the distance between those who govern and those who are governed is a lot greater than the distance between progressives and conservatives. Partisans of course are extremely vital to society's 'betters' keeping the great unwashed in their place.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Well for the next decade or so, the left is going to get a whole lot meaner, if they ever want to run the country again...

I doubt progressives will have to do very much at all.  It won't take Poilievre long to remind Canadians why progressivism is still their natural governing ideology, so-called left-wing parties not necessarily withstanding.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted
28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

They both want power and will say and withhold virtually anything it takes to attain and hang on to it. 

Again, prove it.  Make an actual argument.  Don't just pull crap out of your ass,  what evidence is there that PP will "Say" or 'withhold"  "anything"?   If anything it's fair to say he's held some opinions that certainly have not helped his political aspirations over the years. For example he refuses to denounce aboriton even tho that weakened him in the party with some groups. 

So where's your proof.  Or at least evidence?  As to wanting 'power' by definition pretty much anyone running for any office is seeking power but show where he's somehow moreso than you'd expect a politician to be, or that he's willing to get it at any cost?

 Again - you say the crap you need to in order to excuse your bad choices of the past but that's not a real thing. You have to make an actual case. 

Based on his track record, PP has strong beliefs with regards to what gov'ts role is and what is necessary to provide Canadians with a prosperous life and he's willing to stick to those Beliefs and goals.  Further he does have the experience necessary to navigate the system to deliver (as much as anyone can). 

So other than your own prejudices and bias what evidence do you have to back up your statement?

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I doubt progressives will have to do very much at all.  It won't take Poilievre long to remind Canadians why progressivism is still their natural governing ideology, so-called left-wing parties not necessarily withstanding.

LOL progressivism is pretty much dead.  Even the DEI departments are being flushed. 

It will take a very long time for people to forget the disaster that the "progressives" inflicted upon Canada. especially the young people. 

The "progressives" will have to get a hell of a lot more conservative to have a chance anytime soon. 

There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data

Posted
20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It will take a very long time for people to forget the disaster that the "progressives" inflicted upon Canada. especially the young people.

Good luck with that, history isn't on your side. 

22 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The "progressives" will have to get a hell of a lot more conservative to have a chance anytime soon. 

Perhaps, in any case conservatives will just naturally move right. Like I said it's the journey not the destination.

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Make an actual argument

I did but I guess you missed it. You do that a lot.

A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I was lying and can't back up what i said

As usual :) 

So in other words you were just blowing smoke out of your ass and everything you said was just you smelling your own farts to justify your bad decisions. 

Well that's all we expect from the left anyway.

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Good luck with that, history isn't on your side. 

 

No luck required and history is entirely on my side. Sit back and watch little boy :) 

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Perhaps, in any case conservatives will just naturally move right. Like I said it's the journey not the destination.

Conservatives are already on the right, and you say lots of stupid things that don't mean anything, i really don't bother to remember them. 

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