gatomontes99 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 Quote DOHA/BRUSSELS/WASHINGTON Dec 4 (Reuters) - Donald Trump's Middle East envoy has traveled to Qatar and Israel to kickstart the U.S. president-elect's diplomatic push to help reach a Gaza ceasefire and hostage release deal before he takes office on Jan. 20, a source briefed on the talks told Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trumps-envoy-meets-qatari-israeli-prime-ministers-ceasefire-push-2024-12-04/ The started by sending negotiators. Quote The president-elect has threatened to unleash “hell” on the militant group if it doesn’t meet his deadline. What might he actually do? https://foreignpolicy.com/2025/01/10/trump-hamas-hostages-gaza-hell-inauguration-deadline/ While Trump applied pressure Quote The official said Trump’s Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff had played a critical role in advancing talks over the weekend, while one of the U.S. officials close to the negotiations said Witkoff and White House coordinator for the Middle East and North Africa, Brett McGurk, have been “working seamlessly” on the effort. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ceasefire-talks-israel-hamas-make-real-progress-rcna187358 They made progress Quote Israel and Hamas reach deal on Gaza ceasefire and hostage release https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ceasefire-israel-hamas-gaza-palestinians-rcna160847 That is how it is done. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 This is not a good deal at all... and the fact that Trump pushed it irks me. Israel had to trade a ton of bad people, convicted criminals, and this rewards Hamas for their taking hostages. From what I have heard, the Israeli side doesn't like this deal at all. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 49 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: The started by sending negotiators. While Trump applied pressure They made progress That is how it is done. Lol this was all done now because Bibi wanted to give his buddy Donald a W and so he dragged his feet on making a deal even though it cost thousands of lives including those of the hostages. This is obviously the case given the plan is basically identical to the one Biden put forth last May that Hamas accepted and Netanyahu refused. Everything else is theatre for rubes like the OP. Edited January 15 by Black Dog 3 1 Quote
Politics1990 Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 like blackdog said just bibi dragging his feet waiting for trump and try to make biden look bad lol the deal isn't even that great tbh 1 Quote
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 9 minutes ago, Politics1990 said: like blackdog said just bibi dragging his feet waiting for trump and try to make biden look bad lol the deal isn't even that great tbh What do you base this on? Because I imagine Black Dog just made that up. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 43 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Lol this was all done now because Bibi wanted to give his buddy Donald a W and so he dragged his feet on making a deal even though it cost thousands of lives including those of the hostages. This is obviously the case given the plan is basically identical to the one Biden put forth last May that Hamas accepted and Netanyahu refused. Everything else is theatre for rubes like the OP. Bibi says it isn't a done deal. So there goes that theory. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Bibi says it isn't a done deal. So there goes that theory. It's pretty much done. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 7 minutes ago, Black Dog said: It's pretty much done. Well, if Bibi isn't high on the deal, it undercuts your imagined motivation. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
NAME REMOVED Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: The started by sending negotiators. While Trump applied pressure They made progress That is how it is done. So Trump told Bibi to hold off in any ceasefire/hostage exchange, until a couple of days before inauguration. Makes sense. The Republican Party did this in 1980 to Jimmy Carter too. They told Iran not to free the American hostages, until Reagan was inaugurated. Quote
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 11 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: So Trump told Bibi to hold off in any ceasefire/hostage exchange, until a couple of days before inauguration. Makes sense. The Republican Party did this in 1980 to Jimmy Carter too. They told Iran not to free the American hostages, until Reagan was inaugurated. Where did you get this from? Quote
robosmith Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 20 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: So Trump told Bibi to hold off in any ceasefire/hostage exchange, until a couple of days before inauguration. Makes sense. The Republican Party did this in 1980 to Jimmy Carter too. They told Iran not to free the American hostages, until Reagan was inaugurated. And the reason Iran agreed to that scenario is they were really pissed that Carter had allowed the Shah to get medical treatment in the US. Jimmy; ever the good guy dealing with Iranians who were holding a grudge against PAST US LEADERS. Jimmy was NOT the guy in charge when the US fomented a coup against a democratically elected Iranian leader. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 (edited) 26 minutes ago, User said: Where did you get this from? Of all people I have on ignore. I enjoy ignoring your posts the most. Edited January 15 by DUI_Offender 1 Quote
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 minute ago, DUI_Offender said: Of all people I have on ignore. I enjoy ignoring your posts the most. LOL. Yeah, I call out your BS lies, so you run and hide like a coward. Quote
Black Dog Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Well, if Bibi isn't high on the deal, it undercuts your imagined motivation. Not really, no. We don't know what Trump's part of the bargain is. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 2 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: So Trump told Bibi to hold off in any ceasefire/hostage exchange, until a couple of days before inauguration. Makes sense. The Republican Party did this in 1980 to Jimmy Carter too. They told Iran not to free the American hostages, until Reagan was inaugurated. Wow. Just making shit ip and hoping it's true? Of course you are. Did you think we wouldn't notice? Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
gatomontes99 Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 1 hour ago, Black Dog said: Not really, no. We don't know what Trump's part of the bargain is. Trump's part was sending an envoy to help negotiate and even the Biden handlers admitted that helped a lot. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
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