French Patriot Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 "Sin: The Path to Excellence" Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence. At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater. To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives. Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger. This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward. I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve. So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity. Quote
User Posted January 12 Report Posted January 12 If you copy-paste from someone else, you are supposed to provide the source. 1 Quote
French Patriot Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 Interesting to see that you have paid attention to the my style enough to see the AI assist. These are all my thoughts though, with a test at AI setting it in it's better writing style. Strange though that you mall did not comment on the content. I guess you need to ask A I to do your thinking for you. Quote
French Patriot Posted January 15 Author Report Posted January 15 On 1/12/2025 at 2:22 PM, User said: If you copy-paste from someone else, you are supposed to provide the source. I am the source. No computer can use logic and reason the way a human can. Perhaps that is why you did not opine on the content. You and your A I are not able to follow logic trails. Without sin, we all go extinct. Right? Quote
User Posted January 15 Report Posted January 15 3 minutes ago, French Patriot said: I am the source. No computer can use logic and reason the way a human can. Perhaps that is why you did not opine on the content. You and your A I are not able to follow logic trails. Without sin, we all go extinct. Right? Really... so you go by Gnostic Bishop on Reddit, Facebook, Blue Light, etc... No, I don't run this through AI, when I see a long post like this that appears to be written somewhere else, I just put it into google and see that the exact same thing has been posted on at least half a dozen other places. I have no desire to engage with copy/paste. If these are indeed your own thoughts, and you are all those other posters, fair enough. 1 Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 (edited) On 1/12/2025 at 10:23 AM, French Patriot said: Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence. Well, first, you need to explain what you base your definition of "sin" on and what "god" it is you are talking about in regards to this "sin" Edited January 17 by User Quote
French Patriot Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, User said: Well, first, you need to explain what you base your definition of "sin" on This was meant to cover that. "At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” As to the God involved, that would be Yahweh as I am quoting the Bible. I see you compete, taking shots/arguments and opinions at interlocutors who are also competing. One of you will will lose and think evil has befallen him. His thinking has actually been elevated. Right? That is why I crave to lose arguments. It it how I elevate myself and others. Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 10 minutes ago, French Patriot said: This was meant to cover that. "At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” What do you base that on? Did you just make it up? Some kind of religious text you adhere to? Did you find it on a piece of scrap paper buried in the back yard? That is what I am asking. 11 minutes ago, French Patriot said: As to the God involved, that would be Yahweh as I am quoting the Bible. You have already said you rejected this God and The Bible. No? Quote
French Patriot Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, User said: You have already If you are going to use my words, quote them so that I can agree or not. Give a reasonable query or leave. I do not expect a reasoned reply. People do not want to use these places for that anymore. Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 7 minutes ago, French Patriot said: If you are going to use my words, quote them so that I can agree or not. Give a reasonable query or leave. I do not expect a reasoned reply. People do not want to use these places for that anymore. You have said: "You are a crappy judge and apologist and must love Hitler and Stalin as they mimic your God." "your God" So, what God do you believe in? You have repeatedly said: "genocidal praick of a God" Do you believe in that God? If not, what God is it you believe in? You claim to be a "Gnostic Christian" and have yet to explain what that means. You have said: "I am a Gnostic Christian and respect the biblical parts that helped me recognize how immoral your view is. The Jesus I know is not the Jesus you do. Mine was real while yours was imaginarily born thanks to Constantine and Christianity introducing inquisitions and the Dark Ages. That is why we are known as the good Christians. " So... which parts of the Bible do you think are true and which are not? Which do you respect and which do you not? What parts do you based your notions of "sin" and "God" on? What is this Jesus you know? What do you base that on? You have said: "All the supernatural believing offshoots to the Abrahamic religions are fond of genocide and other great evil concepts. Why else would would a person need a God if not to express hate? This clip shows how intelligent moral people will think. " So... here you are mocking needing a God... So, stop acting like you have not said these things. Quote
French Patriot Posted January 17 Author Report Posted January 17 42 minutes ago, User said: So, stop acting like you have not said these things. I do not expect a reasoned reply. People do not want to use these places for that anymore. Quote
User Posted January 17 Report Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, French Patriot said: I do not expect a reasoned reply. People do not want to use these places for that anymore. You told me to quote you, I did. You espouse this vague, meaningless nonsense, and when called out, you play these dishonest games. Quote
oops Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 https://www.britannica.com/topic/sin-religion sin, moral evil as considered from a religious standpoint. Sin is regarded in Judaism and Christianity as the deliberate and purposeful violation of the will of God. Sin is not missing the mark, it is deliberately choosing evil. Quote
French Patriot Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 On 1/21/2025 at 1:38 PM, oops said: https://www.britannica.com/topic/sin-religion sin, moral evil as considered from a religious standpoint. Sin is regarded in Judaism and Christianity as the deliberate and purposeful violation of the will of God. Sin is not missing the mark, it is deliberately choosing evil. Yet Jews see Eden as where man first showed his moral virtue. and gloriously graduated from Eden, so to speak. Look it up under Original Virtue. Further, Christians sing that Adam's sin is necessary to God's plan and that if we do not sin, we derail it. Something about making Jesus' sacrifice worthless. No sin, no savior. Missing various benchmarks are how we grow. Quote
French Patriot Posted January 22 Author Report Posted January 22 1 minute ago, French Patriot said: Judaism and Christianity as the deliberate and purposeful violation of the will of God. All moral people would happily violate the will of a genocidal God or man like Yahweh, Hitler, etc. Quote
User Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 On 1/22/2025 at 1:05 PM, French Patriot said: All moral people would happily violate the will of a genocidal God or man like Yahweh, Hitler, etc. So, here we are again... what god is it or what written doctrine is it that you follow that you are here basing your definition of sin off of that you are saying it is the path to excellence? Quote
oops Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 On 1/22/2025 at 11:02 AM, French Patriot said: Yet Jews see Eden as where man first showed his moral virtue. and gloriously graduated from Eden, so to speak. Look it up under Original Virtue. Further, Christians sing that Adam's sin is necessary to God's plan and that if we do not sin, we derail it. Something about making Jesus' sacrifice worthless. No sin, no savior. Missing various benchmarks are how we grow. Sin is not what you believe the Jews thought, it is violating the laws of God. Since the laws we live by are generally based on the ten commandments sin often breaks the law of man as well. If you want to make and worship idols that is up to you. Lying committing adultery or failing to honor your parents, that is not the path to becoming a better person. If you are promoting stealing and murder however that is a serious violation of the laws of God, and man. Your favorite sin seems to be taking the Lord's name in vain though. You have countless posts attacking Yahweh and Jesus using misspelled derogatory names to attack supernatural beings, while saying you don't believe in the supernatural. It is hard to put that together with a well balanced rational mind. Quote
French Patriot Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 On 1/27/2025 at 3:36 PM, oops said: Sin is not what you believe the Jews thought, it is violating the laws of God. Since the laws we live by are generally based on the ten commandments sin often breaks the law of man as well. If you want to make and worship idols that is up to you. Lying committing adultery or failing to honor your parents, that is not the path to becoming a better person. If you are promoting stealing and murder however that is a serious violation of the laws of God, and man. Your favorite sin seems to be taking the Lord's name in vain though. You have countless posts attacking Yahweh and Jesus using misspelled derogatory names to attack supernatural beings, while saying you don't believe in the supernatural. It is hard to put that together with a well balanced rational mind. I missed this. Well balanced minds are not stupid enough to put away logic and reason to go with supernatural thinking. Especially when the God in question is a genocidal a hole. BTW. Secular law does not recognize sin, and would condemn Yahweh to hell. All moral people would with all genocidal types. Quote
French Patriot Posted February 21 Author Report Posted February 21 On 1/24/2025 at 11:51 AM, User said: So, here we are again... what god is it or what written doctrine is it that you follow that you are here basing your definition of sin off of that you are saying it is the path to excellence? Sin as missing the mark I got from Christianity and the reason we are to forgive sins against us happily and often. The doctrine I speak of is the Cristian one the sings of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. Quote
User Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 18 hours ago, French Patriot said: Sin as missing the mark I got from Christianity and the reason we are to forgive sins against us happily and often. The doctrine I speak of is the Cristian one the sings of Adam's sin as a happy fault and necessary to God's plan. You did not answer any of my questions. What "god" do you believe in? What written doctrine do you follow regarding this "god" and/or how can anyone here read more about the history of your "god?" Quote
French Patriot Posted February 23 Author Report Posted February 23 22 hours ago, User said: You did not answer any of my questions. What "god" do you believe in? What written doctrine do you follow regarding this "god" and/or how can anyone here read more about the history of your "god?" I do, not put any God above man. Especially the genocidal Yahweh. I do not believe in anything supernatural. If you do not get that it is the Bible God under discussion, what can I say. Quote
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 On 2/23/2025 at 8:39 AM, French Patriot said: I do, not put any God above man. Especially the genocidal Yahweh. I do not believe in anything supernatural. If you do not get that it is the Bible God under discussion, what can I say. So what are you talking about here when you say sin is the path to excellence? You don't believe in sin. Quote
French Patriot Posted February 25 Author Report Posted February 25 19 hours ago, User said: So what are you talking about here when you say sin is the path to excellence? You don't believe in sin. Sigh. Quote
User Posted February 25 Report Posted February 25 1 minute ago, French Patriot said: Sigh. So what sin do you believe in and what do you base that on then? Quote
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