They Are Still Trying To Censor The Media

[gatomontes99]

AOC: We need to ‘figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation’

We can't let up on these people. They want nothing less than full control. They can never have power again.

[Michael Hardner]

8 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

  They can never have power again.

Then why not cancel elections?

[Nationalist]

31 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Then why not cancel elections?

Or...simply prosecute a number of bad actors to the fullest extent of the law.

One or the other...

[gatomontes99]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Then why not cancel elections?

 

57 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Or...simply prosecute a number of bad actors to the fullest extent of the law.

One or the other...

...or....we make sure people know who they are.

[Scott75]

11 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

AOC: We need to ‘figure out how we rein in our media environment so that you can’t just spew disinformation’

We can't let up on these people. They want nothing less than full control. They can never have power again.

I haven't always agreed with AOC, but I think that Democrats like her are the best in the party. I haven't fogotten that to win her seat, she had to beat one of the old Democrat dinosaurs that were definitely dragging the party down. Like Bernie Sanders, she was also critical of the Democrats mistakes shortly after Trump won the election. Time Magazine, which I definitely consider to be part of the establishment, made it clear in an article that both Bernie Sanders and AOC lobbed some shots at the Democratic establishment after the Democrats lost the election. Quoting from the article:

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On his own, Sanders would be easy to write-off. But he seldom stands solo. He has inspired a legion of supporters loyal to him, and he made progressive ideas less fringe and cringe than when he offered himself up as socialist alternative to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 race. So threatened were Democrats in 2020 of a Sanders nomination, the primaries all but ended inside 48 hours when the party coalesced with shocking speed behind Joe Biden.

And it’s why the grimace of gnashing over Sanders threatened to become a gush of self-introspection when Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez—a progressive paragon—picked up some of the rubble and amplified it in her own framing. Although Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez hit the trail in the end for Harris, it was clear they had their own lens on this puzzle.

"Our main project is to unite the working class in this country against a fascist agenda. Period. We have had an enormous setback in this election because the fascist won a lot of working-class support, which has happened before in history,” AOC said on a live-stream later Wednesday evening. “I think what is important is that we have to be able to hold that analysis and have these discussions without turning on each other."

An honest discussion about the Democrats’ future? Without turning on each other? That seems absolutely fanciful given the Establishment’s fresh wounds, deep animus toward the likes of Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez, and a shaky alliance with members of The Squad. (In a particularly unhelpful move, Squad member Rashida Tlaib, a Palestinian-American who represents the Muslim- and Arab-rich city of Dearborn, declined to endorse Harris—in part over the ongoing war in Gaza.)

Ocasio-Cortez, who again called for a national $15 minimum wage and proposals for universal health care during her hour-long, direct-to-smartphone chat with supporters on Wednesday, kept the pressure on her party for not doing more to connect with the base, even as others in the party argue that their actual problem was too much deference to that side of the tent. “At the end of the day, the ultimate problem is our ability to clearly and forthrightly advocate for an agenda that clearly champions the working class,” she said. 

For their part, Establishment Democrats were having none of it and immediately pushed back on Sanders—but not explicitly against AOC, who remains a potent force and potentially national nominee.

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Source:

https://time.com/7173985/trump-bernie-sanders-aoc-election/

I read your article, and it never says that AOC wants "full control" or anything like that. There is nothing wrong with wanting a media environment where "you can’t just spew disinformation and misinformation" without consequences. The main issue is making sure that what is being targetted is actually disinformation and misinformation.

I'll end this post with a quote from another article, this one from former New York Times writer Chris Hedges:

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In the end, the election was about despair. Despair over futures that evaporated with deindustrialization. Despair over the loss of 30 million jobs in mass layoffs. Despair over austerity programs and the funneling of wealth upwards into the hands of rapacious oligarchs. Despair over a liberal class that refuses to acknowledge the suffering it orchestrated under neoliberalism or embrace New Deal type programs that will ameliorate this suffering. Despair over the futile, endless wars, as well as the genocide in Gaza, where generals and politicians are never held accountable. Despair over a democratic system that has been seized by corporate and oligarchic power. 

This despair has been played out on the bodies of the disenfranchised through opioid and alcoholism addictions, gambling, mass shootings, suicides — especially among middle-aged white males — morbid obesity and the investment of our emotional and intellectual life in tawdry spectacles and the allure of magical thinking, from the absurd promises of the Christian right to the Oprah-like belief that reality is never an impediment to our desires. These are the pathologies of a deeply diseased culture, what Friedrich Nietzsche calls an aggressive despiritualized nihilism.

Donald Trump is a symptom of our diseased society. He is not its cause. He is what is vomited up out of decay. He expresses a childish yearning to be an omnipotent god. This yearning resonates with Americans who feel they have been treated like human refuse. But the impossibility of being a god, as Ernest Becker writes, leads to its dark alternative — destroying like a god. This self-immolation is what comes next. 

Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party, along with the establishment wing of the Republican Party, which allied itself with Harris, live in their own non-reality-based belief system. Harris, who was anointed by party elites and never received a single primary vote, proudly trumpeted her endorsement by Dick Cheney, a politician who left office with a 13 percent approval rating. The smug, self-righteous “moral” crusade against Trump stokes the national reality television show that has replaced journalism and politics. It reduces a social, economic and political crisis to the personality of Trump. It refuses to confront and name the corporate forces responsible for our failed democracy. It allows Democratic politicians to blithely ignore their base –  77 percent of Democrats and 62 percent of independents support an arms embargo against Israel. The open collusion with corporate oppression and refusal to heed the desires and needs of the electorate neuters the press and Trump  critics. These corporate puppets stand for nothing, other than their own advancement. The lies they tell to working men and women, especially with programs such as the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), do far more damage than any of the lies uttered by Trump.

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Source:

https://scheerpost.com/2024/11/07/chris-hedges-the-politics-of-cultural-despair-2/

 

For anyone who's made it this far, I do actually see a few good things in Trump winning. I still hope that RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard become cabinet members, as I think they would both definitely do some good things. But in general, I don't have high hopes for another Trump administration. That doesn't mean I think that Kamala would have been better. She may well have been worse, especially in regards to the war in Ukraine. The bar was just pretty low.

Edited December 23, 2024 by Scott75