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[Radiorum]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What about them?

They called for caution on the part of the US/Biden.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I think until very recently the corruption was so bad

It's cleaned up a lot with Zelenskyy, who ran on an anti-corruption platform, and has himself never been implicated in scandal.

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"An invasion of Ukraine would be very much against the interests of America and its European allies. We will oppose it with force one way or another if you proceed. Instead, come to the table if you have concerns and let's talk about negotiating to resolve that. If you're only interested in conquest prepare to get kicked in the nuts because we ain't putting up with that shit".

is that what you think Trump is going to say to Putin?

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Kamala Harris to go speak to the parties and see if there was any way to avoid a conflict something like two days before war broke out.

That's a debunked story. Harris never met with Putin, despite Trump's lies about it.

 

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That is watching someone fall off the cliff and doing nothing to save them.

Lol, you really like this metaphor, don't you?

Putin falling off a cliff ... ROFLMAO

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30 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

They called for caution on the part of the US/Biden.

Nonsense. Everybody knew he was blustering and if you allow the bluster to scare you to the point where you offer a weak response then anytime he wants to do anything in the world he just simply feels he has to threaten a nuclear option and everybody will back down.

Did kennedy back down with the Russian Cuban Missile Crisis? Are there nuclear warheads in Cuba pointed in America? That's how you do it.

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It's cleaned up a lot with Zelenskyy, who ran on an anti-corruption platform, and has himself never been implicated in scandal.

Definitely. But most of that has happened since the invasion. And they still have a ways to go, and even when they eliminate corruption they will have to be vigilant for a time to prevent it from coming back in force.

The day may will come when ukraine would be a valuable addition to Nato. But that day is not here yet.

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is that what you think Trump is going to say to Putin?

It would be kind of a little late considering that the invasion has already happened. Threatening him not to invade is a little silly at this point  

But I suspect that it will be something not entirely dissimilar. Stand down or we will step up, and then the negotiations begin. The two issues on the table will be how much land Russia gets to keep and what kind of military assistance and hardware ukraine will get to make sure Russia can never do this again. Remember that Ukraine does not need to be part of NATO in order to sign deals with and be an ally of NATO. NATO can still promise to equip Ukraine with the best of the best and to allow some of its troops to be stationed there to prevent future Russian incursions which will p*ss Russia off to no end and set the stage for future NATO membership when the time is actually right

 

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That's a debunked story. Harris never met with Putin, despite Trump's lies about it.

I never said anything about Harris meeting with Putin. You need to pay attention more

I said she was sent to speak with the parties and she did spoke with Zalensky and many of our allies about this issue in Muich.  She probably should have called putin but instead she did nothing and sat on her ass days before the invasion.

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Lol, you really like this metaphor, don't you?

It's apt in this case. I repeat it in the hopes that eventually it will get through your head. Repetition and patience seems to be necessary to make that happen with you sometimes 

And it wasn't Putin falling off the cliff, it was Ukraine. Ukraine stood on the edge of a cliff and the us could have reached out his hand and prevented it's fall but didn't.

Do you get it now? 

 

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2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You're a dumb Nazi-lover. GFYS.

Well it's kinda hard to demonstrate how dumb I am when you faul to address my point because it went over your head.

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4 hours ago, Radiorum said:

That's a debunked story. Harris never met with Putin, despite Trump's lies about it.

The debunked part is that she met with Putin, she did in fact travel to Europe several days before the invasion to meet with the Munich conference to tell Russia the allies were prepared for Russian aggression. 

To the point being made by Trump, look how well that worked out.