Left Wingers

[JerrySeinfeld]

Anyone ever notice how easy it is to be a left winger? You don't have to think. You just pick the side of an issue that "feels good at the moment" and doesn't require much thought - and is usually spoonfed to you by the media.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects. First of all, left wing policies tend to appeal to those without much hope of gaining financial independance, which is why bottom of the barrelsocial safety-net issues matter to them.

Also, left wingers like to think their idea are on the "morral high ground". ie. "Right wingers are cold hearted war mongering bastards who only care about #1". This is a common misconception, but one which most lefties are happy to perpetuate. Why? because in a world where they have basically failed in competing with the righty on virtually every other area (financially, career success, charisma, charm, power, etc.) it instantly brings the lefty onto an equal playing field - or even superior in his own mind.

Think about it. "Hi I have a shitty job, no prospects and haven't accomplished much in life, but I am better than you the rightwing-successful-dude because I chain myself to trees and protest against war."

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. Good on ya - whatever makes you FEEL GOOD.

And that's what being a lefty is all about - FEELING GOOD.

[Black Dog]

Some posts are so stupid that they require no deconstruction or ridicule: the ignorance is self-evident. The above is such a post.

[JerrySeinfeld]

Some posts are so stupid that they require no deconstruction or ridicule: the ignorance is self-evident. The above is such a post.

ahhh - a lefty i see

[Shakeyhands]

Some posts are so stupid that they require no deconstruction or ridicule: the ignorance is self-evident. The above is such a post.

Trolling posts = no feeding zones

[JerrySeinfeld]

Some posts are so stupid that they require no deconstruction or ridicule: the ignorance is self-evident. The above is such a post.

Trolling posts = no feeding zones

A quote from PJ OROURKE:

...Such are the products of envy and fear, which brings me to the third mainspring of egalitarianism: greed. And by greed I don't mean the simple lust for material objects. I am concerned about the greed for position and pride, for what nowadays is called self-esteem. I wonder how many of the people who profess to believe in the leveling ideas of collectivism and egalitarianism really just believe that they themselves are good for nothing. I mean, how many leftists are animated by a quite reasonable self-loathing? In their hearts they know that they are not going to become scholars or inventors or industrialists or even ordinary good kind people. So they need a way to achieve that smugness for which the left is so justifiably famous. They need a way to achieve self-esteem without merit. Well, there is politics. In an egalitarian world everything will be controlled by politics, and politics requires no merit.

[Argus]

Anyone ever notice how easy it is to be a left winger? You don't have to think. You just pick the side of an issue that "feels good at the moment" and doesn't require much thought - and is usually spoonfed to you by the media.

That's too simplistic. I would say the vast majority of Left wingers are well-meaning, but simply don't think things through. They see a thing as kind or generous, and don't look beyond that to the consequences and the side effects.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects. First of all, left wing policies tend to appeal to those without much hope of gaining financial independance, which is why bottom of the barrelsocial safety-net issues matter to them.

Again, while this is partially true, it's simplistic. There are a ton of left wingers who are doing quite nicely, thank you. I'd say most of the members of the teaching unions are left wing, for example, as are most journalists. Both are well-paid professions (even if I might question just how professional they are). No, I think the most common way to identify politically left of centre people is the term "well-meaning". That doesn't mean their policies can't be disastrous at times. And it doesn't mean they can't be arrogant, self-righteous and even cruel, depending on the policy. Those who want to control others lives generally think their rules and regulations would be better "for everyone" and are so confident of this they simply disdain the beliefs of others that they'd like to do something else.

And that's what being a lefty is all about - FEELING GOOD.

That one I won't really argue about.

[JerrySeinfeld]

You make good points and I agree with most of it.

Again, while this is partially true, it's simplistic. There are a ton of left wingers who are doing quite nicely, thank you. I'd say most of the members of the teaching unions are left wing, for example, as are most journalists. Both are well-paid professions (even if I might question just how professional they are). No, I think the most common way to identify politically left of centre people is the term "well-meaning".

First of all, I wouldn't consider teachers or journalists "well paid". I thinkalot of teachers and journalists start of as young, idealistic peope who think the profession sounds like a great idea or "way to change the world" at the time but then realize after a period that it's tedious work without much payoff or alternative. Nurses too. Plus, when your paycheque is signed by the government you're generally in favor of higher taxes

Another "non-poor" fixture on the left is the wealthy widow / emptynester couple. They've made their money and spent their lives voting conservative, but now that their income needs are tailing off and they've way more money than they could spend in the remainder of their life, they become short-term altruists. Think the wealthy older couple at the opera fund raiser.

[Black Dog]

Those who want to control others lives generally think their rules and regulations would be better "for everyone" and are so confident of this they simply disdain the beliefs of others that they'd like to do something else.

Hardly an exclusively left wing trait, is it?

[JerrySeinfeld]

Those who want to control others lives generally think their rules and regulations would be better "for everyone" and are so confident of this they simply disdain the beliefs of others that they'd like to do something else.

Hardly an exclusively left wing trait, is it?

It sure is!

[newbie]

What a hateful thread. Did somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning Jerry?

[JerrySeinfeld]

What a hateful thread. Did somebody piss in your cornflakes this morning Jerry?

lol - it's a FUNNY thread. where's your sense of humor?

[August1991]

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects.

Seinfeld, I am the first to criticise Leftists but I have to say that you do it in such an extreme way that it makes the Left almost sympathetic.

Your point above reminds me of the people who used to describe feminists as the kind of women no man would want to have an affair with. Then Gloria Steinem came along and changed the stereotype.

And Seinfeld, you seem to insist on viewing life as winners and losers which means that if you are a typical, conventional Canadian (and your posts suggest that), then you appear to be stating in which category you fear you belong.

[geoffrey]

Those who want to control others lives generally think their rules and regulations would be better "for everyone" and are so confident of this they simply disdain the beliefs of others that they'd like to do something else.

Hardly an exclusively left wing trait, is it?

Correct Black Dog. In fact, us conservative breed are more likely to wish to imply rules on everyone rather than the left. However, you have libertarians on both sides of the fence, so really I don't think authoritarianism belongs to either part of the spectrum exclusively.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects.

Depends. There are alot of modest income earning conservatives. There are alot of modest income earning socialists. Liberal supporters actually tend to be quite well off in my experience, I mean, the Liberals are the pro-big business party...

Saying most left wingers are poor though? Come on.. that simply isn't true.

[fryingpan]

Anyone ever notice how easy it is to be a left winger? You don't have to think. You just pick the side of an issue that "feels good at the moment" and doesn't require much thought - and is usually spoonfed to you by the media.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects. First of all, left wing policies tend to appeal to those without much hope of gaining financial independance, which is why bottom of the barrelsocial safety-net issues matter to them.

Also, left wingers like to think their idea are on the "morral high ground". ie. "Right wingers are cold hearted war mongering bastards who only care about #1". This is a common misconception, but one which most lefties are happy to perpetuate. Why? because in a world where they have basically failed in competing with the righty on virtually every other area (financially, career success, charisma, charm, power, etc.) it instantly brings the lefty onto an equal playing field - or even superior in his own mind.

Think about it. "Hi I have a shitty job, no prospects and haven't accomplished much in life, but I am better than you the rightwing-successful-dude because I chain myself to trees and protest against war."

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. Good on ya - whatever makes you FEEL GOOD.

And that's what being a lefty is all about - FEELING GOOD.

Most of the left wing supporters I know belong in unions, and union members sure aren't poor. However, I know quite a few people making minimum wage who support the left wing because they believe left wingers will give them the "easy life".

I do wish left wingers would stop messing with the economy. Things like raising taxes and raising minimum wage and tougher labour regulations are what hurts the economy.

[uOttawaMan]

Anyone ever notice how easy it is to be a left winger? You don't have to think. You just pick the side of an issue that "feels good at the moment" and doesn't require much thought - and is usually spoonfed to you by the media.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects. First of all, left wing policies tend to appeal to those without much hope of gaining financial independance, which is why bottom of the barrelsocial safety-net issues matter to them.

Also, left wingers like to think their idea are on the "morral high ground". ie. "Right wingers are cold hearted war mongering bastards who only care about #1". This is a common misconception, but one which most lefties are happy to perpetuate. Why? because in a world where they have basically failed in competing with the righty on virtually every other area (financially, career success, charisma, charm, power, etc.) it instantly brings the lefty onto an equal playing field - or even superior in his own mind.

Think about it. "Hi I have a shitty job, no prospects and haven't accomplished much in life, but I am better than you the rightwing-successful-dude because I chain myself to trees and protest against war."

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. Good on ya - whatever makes you FEEL GOOD.

And that's what being a lefty is all about - FEELING GOOD.

I have charm and charisma in spades, and I'm a centre...y. So o snap Mr.McNegative

[Leader Circle]

Mostly good points about lefties, although I agree with Argus & August, that many are financially secure.

Most seem to have a broad sweeping cause, like save the earth, trees, mankind etc. Many I find are good intentions, but seem to fall into publicity traps and are misconstrued as extremists which is not always the case.

Someone once wrote on their signature or something about to fly a plane you need a right & left wing, which is so true! I don't dislike the left, because their is a place in the political forum for everyone, but I choose to disagree with their politics.

If there were no unions, you'd have greedy employers, screwing their employees(not literally). If it were all union, not profits could ever be made. So you need both, just a mix of the two to find some middle ground!

Not to run them down, but here is a few similarities I have found with many lefties:

1. Unionized

2. Homosexuals or supporters(Not very many gay Conservatives, that I know)

3. Drive foreign vehicles(Not Dodge, Chev or Ford)

4. Typically University educated(Many vocal lefties, at least)

5. Live in large cities.

6. Non-religious(Not as propular a similarity, but most aethiests & agnostic will come from the left)

These are just a few I have found and there are major similarities in the right wingers too, but if you find someone with 3-4 of these things in common most of them would be left leaning.

When I drive by a school or hospital in my area, I find it funny to see the make & models of the cars. Usually majority of them foreign, like Honda, VW, Mazda, & Nissan and I like in redneckville, if you go to bigger cities I am sure the numbers are comparative or greater.

Anyway, my two cents.

[lost&outofcontrol]

Wow, a thread based on an ad hominem attack on these forums, why am I not suprised.

[newbie]

Can everyone say stereotype?

[mcqueen625]

Anyone ever notice how easy it is to be a left winger? You don't have to think. You just pick the side of an issue that "feels good at the moment" and doesn't require much thought - and is usually spoonfed to you by the media.

One thing I have noticed for certain. lThere are a few exceptions, but generally the lefty is the guy who has less money, a shittier job and not much prospects. First of all, left wing policies tend to appeal to those without much hope of gaining financial independance, which is why bottom of the barrelsocial safety-net issues matter to them.

Also, left wingers like to think their idea are on the "morral high ground". ie. "Right wingers are cold hearted war mongering bastards who only care about #1". This is a common misconception, but one which most lefties are happy to perpetuate. Why? because in a world where they have basically failed in competing with the righty on virtually every other area (financially, career success, charisma, charm, power, etc.) it instantly brings the lefty onto an equal playing field - or even superior in his own mind.

Think about it. "Hi I have a shitty job, no prospects and haven't accomplished much in life, but I am better than you the rightwing-successful-dude because I chain myself to trees and protest against war."

HAHAAHAHAHAHAHA. Good on ya - whatever makes you FEEL GOOD.

And that's what being a lefty is all about - FEELING GOOD.

It is the side that wants government to be all things to all Canadians. The real problem is that to do this it costs money, and since most Canadian hollar that we are overtaxed we should maybe ask the people of Canada before we go head over heals in debt to pay for things like universal daycare as invisioned by that flake Jack Layton and his band of nutcases. Canadians want less governement, not more, and to achieve that we need to shed numerous levels of government bureaucracy, and that should ideally start in the Office of the Prime Minister.

[Freshinit]

I feel it is the lefties who are more politically motivated. Politics is an art, not a science. Lefties tend to understand the symbolism behind things. Lefties prioritize the value of something through it's application to life, as opposed to the right who favour calculating success through numbers. I can't grasp why some people would lead such structured boring lives. Paying tribute to a book of faith their entire lives, conditioned from a young age to give homage to a book 2000 years old.

I believe when it comes to civility and progression, liberal minded individuals prosper and contribute a great deal towards ideology,philosophy, equality and imagination. "Lefties" are the reason man is no longer primitive. The reason quantative logic (something righties abuse) is even accepted mainstream and thus applied to our legacy as a species. It is why we have uncovered so much science. The most elite of thinkers understand money and material wealth as an imperfect median we have yet to progress on, intent righties accept it as an unchangable part of life, something I think which hinders our inevitable journey towards meaning.

Ressource exploitation was definately made possible by freedom of thought, however it is ironic that the minds who open new doors are the least likely to endulge in it's benefits. A liberal understands these benefits as cyclic, and foreign to one's inner worth.

A lefty leaves his footprint on civility, a righty on our biosphere.

[uOttawaMan]

Mostly good points about lefties, although I agree with Argus & August, that many are financially secure.

Most seem to have a broad sweeping cause, like save the earth, trees, mankind etc. Many I find are good intentions, but seem to fall into publicity traps and are misconstrued as extremists which is not always the case.

Someone once wrote on their signature or something about to fly a plane you need a right & left wing, which is so true! I don't dislike the left, because their is a place in the political forum for everyone, but I choose to disagree with their politics.

If there were no unions, you'd have greedy employers, screwing their employees(not literally). If it were all union, not profits could ever be made. So you need both, just a mix of the two to find some middle ground!

Not to run them down, but here is a few similarities I have found with many lefties:

1. Unionized

2. Homosexuals or supporters(Not very many gay Conservatives, that I know)

3. Drive foreign vehicles(Not Dodge, Chev or Ford)

4. Typically University educated(Many vocal lefties, at least)

5. Live in large cities.

6. Non-religious(Not as propular a similarity, but most aethiests & agnostic will come from the left)

These are just a few I have found and there are major similarities in the right wingers too, but if you find someone with 3-4 of these things in common most of them would be left leaning.

When I drive by a school or hospital in my area, I find it funny to see the make & models of the cars. Usually majority of them foreign, like Honda, VW, Mazda, & Nissan and I like in redneckville, if you go to bigger cities I am sure the numbers are comparative or greater.

Anyway, my two cents.

That was like your counterfeit ten dollars.