August1991 Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 I think that Lincoln was a terrible president. Lincoln - like Biden & Putin - are terrible leaders. Soldiers die. ==== Oprah Winfrey paid for Obama. And she apparently said, "Don't screw this up." Under Obama, we got along. Quote
Five of swords Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 I guess it depends on how you measure how 'good' a president is. For sure he managed to drastically expand federal power. Quote
robosmith Posted September 17, 2024 Report Posted September 17, 2024 11 minutes ago, August1991 said: I think that Lincoln was a terrible president. Lincoln - like Biden & Putin - are terrible leaders. Soldiers die. ==== Oprah Winfrey paid for Obama. And she apparently said, "Don't screw this up." Under Obama, we got along. Lincoln made the US live closer to its stated ideals, and that is a good thing. 2 Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 2 minutes ago, Five of swords said: I guess it depends on how you measure how 'good' a president is. For sure he managed to drastically expand federal power. Lincoln did that. As FDR and Bush Jnr. Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 17 minutes ago, August1991 said: I think that Lincoln was a terrible president. Lincoln - like Biden & Putin - are terrible leaders. Soldiers die. ==== Oprah Winfrey paid for Obama. And she apparently said, "Don't screw this up." Under Obama, we got along. A little early to be drinking, ain't it? Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: Lincoln made the US live closer to its stated ideals, and that is a good thing. Disagree. Lincoln abused federal power. Our PM Trudeau with his Charter of Rights brought Canada closer to the US Constition. Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: A little early to be drinking, ain't it? In my time zone, it's before 5pm. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 what sort of lunatic would declaim the patron saint of the republic ? only a pathetic Canadian would spew such ignominious nonsense Quote
robosmith Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 3 hours ago, August1991 said: Disagree. Lincoln abused federal power. Our PM Trudeau with his Charter of Rights brought Canada closer to the US Constition. "Abuse" of Federal power was necessary to set the slaves free cause the Confederate states were never going to do it, and that is a good thing. Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 3 hours ago, Dougie93 said: what sort of lunatic would declaim the patron saint of the republic ? only a pathetic Canadian would spew such ignominious nonsense Our federal PMs avoided civil war - Laurier, Trudeau Snr kept our confederation together peacefully. Your Lincoln provoked a civil war - killing millions. Quote
robosmith Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 1 minute ago, August1991 said: Our federal PMs avoided civil war - Laurier, Trudeau Snr kept our confederation together peacefully. Your Lincoln provoked a civil war - killing millions. Confederates STARTED that war by attacking Union territory. All because they were AFRAID of losing their slaves. 🤮 Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 Just now, robosmith said: Confederates STARTED that war by attacking Union territory. All because they were AFRAID of losing their slaves. 🤮 Stupid ChatGPT. Robosmith, check confederation. Quote
robosmith Posted September 18, 2024 Report Posted September 18, 2024 4 minutes ago, August1991 said: Stupid ChatGPT. Robosmith, check confederation. You check it and post what it tells us. Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 14 minutes ago, robosmith said: You check it and post what it tells us. Whatever. Comme tu dis. Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 I reckon that Obama was a good leader. Like Trump. They both largely kept America out of foreign wars. Quote
August1991 Posted September 18, 2024 Author Report Posted September 18, 2024 Good presidents? For America - or the world? Truman was a good president for the world. At Potsdam, "I have an Ace. And a trump card." Kennedy and Nixon were too. Reagan was a good president for you Americans - like Clinton. Quote
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