Ask a Black Man Anything

[Guest]

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Well, spill the beans then.  What were your experiences as a developing youth ?  When did you "know" ? 

I knew from very young. Only knew what I felt was, when was a teenager.

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

How did it shape your view of our hyper-sexualized culture ?

It didn't bother me.

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

How did you get a "wife"

Likely the same way you got a woman in your life. Approaching one, and asking them out.

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

with your, uh, configuration ?

Which would be?

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

What if you couldn't do that ? 

How could I not? 

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Would it put you off when people said that your admission of sexuality was putting it in others' faces ?

Define pushed in people's faces. Am confused.

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

 

Define pushed in people's faces. Am confused.

This is a complaint we hear about people who show their sexuality publicly, or even fly the pride flag.

[Guest]

10 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

who show their sexuality publicly

I think the growing anger, is not against gay people wanting to openly be gay in public.

You are taking this as a joke, but voters, parents will have the final say in this, whether you like it or not.

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

1. I think the growing anger, is not against gay people wanting to openly be gay in public.

2. You are taking this as a joke,

3. but voters, parents will have the final say in this, whether you like it or not.

1. I'm talking about people here, and yes I see complaints about this kind of thing. Not just gay but trans people to being complained about for existing. 

2. Why do you think I'm taking this as a joke? I'm not.

3. You forgot to mention the courts. The courts are important because they interpret and execute the laws that Parliament passes.

I'm pretty sure that I'm aligned with the parents being a parent myself, and being well versed in the politics of both sides. 

A lot of anti-trans folks frame certain things as being for the benefit of children, or alternately as parental rights.  But there are lots of examples of their campaigns being done. Deceptively. 

But I'm not going to go back into that with you, we've gone through that enough. 

I'm still interested in your experience as an LGBTQ person.  Very personal Question: how does your partner make this accommodation in your relationship. Of course you are free to not answer. And I thank you for taking my questions on good faith.

[Guest]

On 9/22/2024 at 6:37 AM, Michael Hardner said:

I'm talking about people here, and yes I see complaints about this kind of thing. Not just gay but trans people to being complained about for existing

Not existing. 

Demanding we abide to the narrative they are trying to push. Heavily funding their way into swaying the government, educational systems to buy into it. Medical industries, conflating activism, with medicine. The latter being objective, in order to be effective.

That there are hundreds of genders, or unlimited. Anyone with a functional brain, would know this is ridiculous.

Feeling entitled to have your feelings not get hurt. Wanting to pass laws to that effect. Stifling freedom of speech, to achieve such goals.

You've oversimplified the actual issue here. Its not just people wanting to exist.

You wouldn't have women being beaten handily by trans women at sports. Others feeling unsafe seeing trans women, male appendages and all, feeling entitled to shower in the same space as other women and young girls.

Thats not just existence. 

Thats demanding the world see you the same way you feel inside.

I am called the "whitest black man" most people know. Logic like this, would have me able to accuse you if racism and potentially press charges.

On 9/22/2024 at 6:37 AM, Michael Hardner said:

Why do you think I'm taking this as a joke?

The tone was passive aggressive. So I challenged you on it. I am direct.

On 9/22/2024 at 6:37 AM, Michael Hardner said:

how does your partner make this accommodation in your relationship. 

We work out, as she has a low sex drive. So I am not dealing with an overbearing partner needing intimacy 4 times a day. 

I can't adapt to a drive that high. Its too much. I have dated nymphos before.

A woman with a reasonable drive, won't require any adaptation from me. We can have intimacy once a day, a few times a week and am fine. Am even okay with less. She is having her needs met, so I have never had a woman need to "adapt" to me, when of normal drive.

I look at it more as putting in work to make her happy. Am altruistic in nature, so this makes me happy. I get pleasure giving pleasure to a partner.

I see it as no different than her cooking for me, or me fixing things in the house.

[User]

On 9/22/2024 at 5:37 AM, Michael Hardner said:

A lot of anti-trans folks frame certain things as being for the benefit of children, or alternately as parental rights.  But there are lots of examples of their campaigns being done. Deceptively. 

I would be curious to know how you define anti-trans, because more often than not, that is a garbage term used to lump anyone and everyone that is not 100% on board with everything trans, including pushing this onto children under the threat of death, as being anti-trans. 

And yes, it almost certainly is for the benefit of the children when we are talking about protecting them from this madness. 

A bit ironic, as it is the trans the kids folks who not only claim it is for the children, but they push it under the threat of death, telling parents they must turn their little girls into boys or they will die! DIE! Do you want them dead?! Then we must convert them! 

But... of course, you don't want to talk about any of this... 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

1. Not existing.  Demanding we abide to the narrative they are trying to push.  

2. You've oversimplified the actual issue here. Its not just people wanting to exist.

3. You wouldn't have women being beaten handily by trans women at sports. Others feeling unsafe seeing trans women, male appendages and all, feeling entitled to shower in the same space as other women and young girls.

 

1. 3. Well that happens too, but that's not all of it.
2. Absolutely it is.  When people object to a symbol that is widely accepted as innocuous and signals inclusion then objecting to that amounts to denial of existence.

You answered what I really wanted to know after this excerpt, thank you.

[Guest]

40 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

but that's not all of it.

There are obviously parties that don't like trans people.

However, it seems anyone with a voice that brings even something like caution to the mix (in administering medication to kids based on the trend of being trans based on how its now pushed onto kids), is seen as transphobic.

Men who went through puberty, shouldn't be boxing with women as trans women. This is now a controversial statement.

Penises aren't the new vaginas. This is now a disgusting statement. One walking in a bikini, with half a d*** barely clinging to the edges of it, would have been. Now, we must collectively vomit inside our mouths.

I don't address you as xir xan or whatever, am transphobic.

You identify as a unicorn. I laugh. Am likely transphobic.

What they are doing, is manipulating language, in a way similar to what they do in dictatorships.

Everything becomes offensive. Everything can get you in trouble, and using fear and shaming, can literally get people to believe anything, if you push it hard enough.

[Guest]

48 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

When people object to a symbol that is widely accepted as innocuous and signals inclusion then objecting to that amounts to denial of existence.

I reject the BLM movement. To some, this is racist. 

But delve into it, their movement is actually harming the black community. Is using it, to advance a darker agenda.

You can reject the agenda, and support trans and queer people.

However, their message has become more divisive than ever.

Going against it, is being bigoted. There isn't any room for talk. 

This isn't what inclusion is all about.

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

2. Absolutely it is.  When people object to a symbol that is widely accepted as innocuous and signals inclusion then objecting to that amounts to denial of existence.

This is some awful logic. 

Rejecting the LGBTQ flag is not a denial of existence. Acceptance of a flag does not define their existence. 

And that symbol has become incredibly divisive, just as you are using it right now to brow beat others into accepting it. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Perspektiv said:

 

What they are doing, is manipulating language, in a way similar to what they do in dictatorships.

 

All sides do this.  I'm aware of your feelings on activists, thanks.

[Guest]

50 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

All sides do this.  I'm aware of your feelings on activists, thanks.

My issue isn't the activism. Its the conflating of activism, for population control.

Reminds me of the Black Panthers. Extremists within the group felt white people had to be eliminated, because co existence was impossible. There was only room for one.

You're seeing similar, in the Gaza / Israel conflict, from the terrorist groups.

You're not with us, then you should be shunned and eliminated. Coexistence cannot be tolerated on any other terms than ours.

Tone the activism down, to where its actual activism again.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

1. My issue isn't the activism. Its the conflating of activism, for population control.

2. Reminds me of the Black Panthers. Extremists within the group felt white people had to be eliminated, because co existence was impossible. There was only room for one.

3. You're seeing similar, in the Gaza / Israel conflict, from the terrorist groups. You're not with us, then you should be shunned and eliminated. Coexistence cannot be tolerated on any other terms than ours.

4. Tone the activism down, to where its actual activism again.

1. That sentence doesn't make sense.  Conflating with what ?  Conflating is done with more than one thing, like "blend".  And "For population control ?"  Who wants population control ?  And how are they using LGBTQ activism to reach that goal ?  Seems farfetched at best.

2. How did that plan go ?

3.  Agreed.  MAGAs are like that too.  Everything is an existential crisis.  Must be tiring to live that way.  You have a streak of positivity in you, and that's enough to make your posts engaging IMO.

4.  Maybe the thing we're missing about the social media revolution is that the volume of ideas (and mostly bad ones) is pushed to the point of ridiculousness.  Activists push ideas out at such a rate that they create a market for the unhinged and obsessive... and those people act as repeater stations for the rest of us.  Somebody needs to invent a volume switch.  

You'll love this, P.  A black journalist asks Jill Stein why she keeps losing at elections and she tells a room full of black people that her question is framed in white supremacy...
 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Everything is an existential crisis.  Must be tiring to live that way.  You have a streak of positivity in you, and that's enough to make your posts engaging IMO.

An existential crisis, you say... 

"When people object to a symbol that is widely accepted as innocuous and signals inclusion then objecting to that amounts to denial of existence."

 

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, User said:

An existential crisis, you say... 

"When people object to a symbol that is widely accepted as innocuous and signals inclusion then objecting to that amounts to denial of existence."

 

Yes, people get up in arms over symbols that are generally accepted.  This is a sign of paranoia IMO.

[User]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Yes, people get up in arms over symbols that are generally accepted.  This is a sign of paranoia IMO.

I love how you completely ignored what I said about what you said here. 

 

[Michael Hardner]

13 minutes ago, User said:

I love how you completely ignored what I said about what you said here. 

 

Sorry, I missed your point.  

[User]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Sorry, I missed your point.  

Of course you did. Of course. 

[Guest]

On 9/23/2024 at 4:42 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Must be tiring to live that way.

It is, which is why I don't watch that much news, anymore. 

[miketx]

When my oldest was a child we were waiting n a doctors office for an appointment. A black man came in and sat down and the boy said, "Mom, look! It's that guy from the Jeffersons!" Everybody laughed.

[herbie]

A black tourist in the grocery line turned and asked others: Are you all staring at me because I'm black?
The cashier told him: No we're staring because you're wearing a toque in July. We can't wait to not have to wear one.