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fellowtraveller Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 I'm not sure how your title relates to the body of the OP, but I'll give it a whirl. Of course God is a human construct. Have you ever seen a potato or a gopher praying? As a species we haven't done much of building Him either, we argue and kill each other endlessly over His Name and His word. Quote The government should do something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martial Shadow Posted January 27, 2006 Report Share Posted January 27, 2006 Entire groups of Hindus are Panentheistic which is a form of Monotheism- this group worships Brahaman alone. A cult of ancient Egyptians worshiped Ra and called all other gods false. Guru Nanak, the founder of Sikhism, but born a Hindu- said there was only one G-d. Bab, the founder of Baha'i was Persian and he believed in one G-d. What you believe is irrelevant- its how you act that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 "Take Care of the People, and God Almighty Will Take Care of Himself." Kurt Vonnegut, The Sirens of Titan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasan Ali Tokuqin Posted January 28, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ra is the sun god.Typhon is the winter god.Anubis is underworld god. Zeus is top most greek god.Eros is love god.Mars is war god. odin, freya etc etc.So there is hiearchy. About Hinduism god is, fire, earth, air, water ;a combination. semitic god reveals himself by revelation with words.he is invisible and can not be portrayed.And defies all deites in other faiths.semitic god claims himself superior from others. I think god is a political invention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 I am a non practicing agnostic. Yeah god is just a myth created to bring people together. Also it could be just a tool to scare people and to have some kind of control over them. Religion is (imho) for the weak. Find truth, justice and morality from within. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martial Shadow Posted January 28, 2006 Report Share Posted January 28, 2006 Ra is the sun god in mainstream ancient Egypt. However an entire cult existed that declared him the ONLY god. "The only important god who was worshiped with consistency was Ra, chief of cosmic deities, from whom early Egyptian kings claimed descent. Beginning with the Middle Kingdom (2134-1668 BC), Ra worship acquired the status of a state religion, and the god was gradually fused with Amon during the Theban dynasties, becoming the supreme god Amon-Ra. During the 18th Dynasty the pharaoh Amenhotep III renamed the sun god Aton, an ancient term for the physical solar force. Amenhotep's son and successor, Amenhotep IV, instituted a revolution in Egyptian religion by proclaiming Aton the true and only god. He changed his own name to Akhenaton, meaning "Aton is satisfied." This first great monotheist was so iconoclastic that he had the plural word gods deleted from monuments, and he relentlessly persecuted the priests of Amon. Akhenaton's sun religion failed to survive, although it exerted a great influence on the art and thinking of his time, and Egypt returned to the ancient, labyrinthine religion of polytheism after Akhenaton's death." On Hinduism, you have never read the Vedas if that is your understanding. From the Gita society, commentary on the Ken Upanishand: In Sanskrit the meaning of a word is based on the verbal root from which the word is derived. The word “Brahman” (also spelled as “Brahma”) is a noun derived from the verbal root “Briha” which means to become big. Thus the noun Brahman derived from the verbal root “Briha” means “bigness”. In English, however, the word Brahman is not translated as bigness, but as Absolute Reality. Let us first examine the meaning of Absolute Reality. Absolute means ultimate, independent, existing all by itself or complete by itself, and reality means nature, quality, or substance of objects. Thus Absolute Reality means ultimate nature of objects, called Brahman in Sanskrit. This word also means the substance that exists independent of all other substances and from which all other substances are derived. That from which the origin, sustenance, and dissolution of this universe are derived is called the Absolute (BS 1.01.02, TaU 3.01.01). Thus the Absolute Reality, the substance from which everything is derived, must be “Big” or limitless, because everything else is either derived from it or is included in it. Because it is absolute, there is nothing else other than the Absolute Reality, the substratum of everything. Thus Brahman is all encompassing substance --- the root cause of everything, known or unknown, seen or perceived, feelings or emotions, thoughts or things. Everything is included in the “Bigness” of Brahman. Nothing is left out --- including God. Brahman is indestructible, dimensionless, beginningless, and limitless. It cannot be measured, seen, or described by a human being that is limited in everyway. Brahman is ever present and beyond time and space. Actually time and space are included in Brahman. It is the ever present reality of all objects and is also called “Sat” or permanent in Sanskrit. It is also present in the form of consciousness (Chit) or awareness in all living beings that cannot be seen or felt. Brahman in the form of awareness is not present in non-living objects, but Sat is present in both living and non-living objects. Brahman is also limitless (Ananta). Thus Brahman is referred as Sat-Chit-Ananta, or Sacchidananta from point of view of all objects, living or non-living. You are entitled to your opinon, but you are anthropologically and theologically uninformed- and therefore incorrect. MS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Leafless Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 Hasan Ali Tokuqin You wrote- " Is God an invention" No one has definite proof in this world any God exist. But on the other hand the most primitive tribes on this planet or whatever you want to call it worship something. It could be the sun or could be an animal but the point is they believe in a God that provides them life and other amenities. What is the common denominator that binds all God's---that is FAITH and that is all that is really important. Agnostics make me chuckle mouthing off there all so strong and brave and they need no God. This is easy to say when all the luxuries of life are at your finger tips and you don't have to worry about basic needs to stay alive. But the day will probably come as you begin to age and you become vulnerable as your senses dim and your muscles weaken and your thoughts become confused that you will turn to a religion you thought you would never have any use for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 as you begin to age and you become vulnerable as your senses dim and your muscles weaken and your thoughts become confused that you will turn to a religion you thought you would never have any use for. I always thought it takes your thoughts to become confused in order to turn to religion. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafless Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 BubberMiley You wrote- " I always it takes your thoughts to become confused in order to turn to religon." Those are my thoughts but not my experiences. My experiences come from older confused agnostics who thought they had it down pat, like you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 I may be old and stoned, but I'm not terribly confused. I'm quite certain that I (like everybody else on this rock) don't know much of anything. So I don't rail against god. I don't even rail against those who think they know him personally. I just rail against those who think of themselves as his representatives here on earth, and it's their job to tell the rest of us that whatever they think is his word. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leafless Posted January 30, 2006 Report Share Posted January 30, 2006 BubberMiley You wrote- " I just rail against those who think of themselves as his representatives here on earth, and it's there job to tell the rest of that whatever they think is his word." Well, at least you acknowledge this is earth and this is a good sign and means that you recognize this is the present abode of mankind as distinct from heaven or hell; the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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