Toronto Sun: Parents livid after girls’ soccer teams get annihilated by squad with five trans players

[Venandi]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I wouldn't waste an ounce of breath fighting it out with a trans activist in person. I vote for who shares my beliefs.

I get it... I tend toward the same because discussing it seems futile and the only axis of advance appears to be with the election of a new government. At the same time though, I also fear the effect of platform creep and question whether (and I hate to say this), the conservatives are actually conservative enough. 

Recently, I've come to the conclusion that biting our collective tongues isn't helpful in the face of entrenched narrative on one hand and voter apathy on the other. Maybe apathy is the wrong word here but at a minimum, it seems average people aren't paying attention.

Some have deliberately tuned the madness out in an effort to regulate their own blood pressure and that's not good.  It allows the strident screams of a vocal minority to appear more credible (and popular) than I think they actually deserve. By way of example, when I look at my entire circle of acquaintances I see no one in favour of surgically mutilating minor children because they identify as "human puppies."  A small victory for common sense eh?

In short, I now view the silence of moderates as grease which lubricates the wheels of madness.   

And at the risk of gross oversimplification, it seems to me that there's been a seismic political shift directly under my feet and the only thing that hasn't changed is me (meaning the opinions and values I've always defaulted to).

It's like the Conservatives now occupy the space previously inhabited by moderate liberals, and Liberals have become the NDP of old. As for the NDP themselves, well, they seem to be in some sort of slingshot maneuver around the planet Pluto. IMO, they've wrecked their brand and decided to defend that low ground which only exists somewhere between irrelevant and dangerous. Some might argue that it was liberals who developed the SRBs on "Starship NDP" and OK, you're probably right about that.

So, maybe absurdity needs to be met with counter absurdity in the form of ridicule, like the "human pup" thing. Maybe the surgical alteration of hands into paws and affixing furry tails to hindquarters needs to experience the ridicule it rightly deserves. Mindless ridicule was used to great effect by the pro-vax crowd and their version of it required little in the way of knowledge or compassion to be extremely effective.

Even I can do that...

Maybe fiscal conservatives with traditional values that are tempered with compassion and the respect for consensus need to be more vocal. It seems to me that in the absence of those voices, absurdity, and the media who profit from overt displays of that absurdity feel free to run amuck on the streets of a once great nation.  

 

 

Edited April 2, 2024 by Venandi

[Guest]

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

Some have deliberately tuned the madness out in an effort to regulate their own blood pressure and that's not good.  

I see it like this. 

You fight with someone like this, and they drag you down to their level and beat you with heavy experience. Its a waste of time.

Work smarter, not harder. Vote your way out of this, or accept these people are here to say, and focus on what you can control.

I used to work with an insanely arrogant woke co-worker.

She was insanely vocal. Tried to correct all wording used that she didn't like. 

Throw out a plastic bag, and get scolded for not recycling it.

Say merry Christmas, happy Canada day, and get reminded of how colonization and capitalism is truly what you are celebrating and how ashamed of yourself that you should be.

This person became a headache, so nobody wanted to talk when they were around. Wasn't worth the headache.

Most people including myself, don't enjoy needless drama.

People like this have crab mentality issues, or what I tell my wife about some of her relatives--village people mentalities.

They cannot see outside of the boxes that they have painted themselves in. They resist anything that calls for growth, reason or anything that isn't exactly what they were told to believe.

Anything else, threatens this. Must be fought heavy handed.

Again. Fighting against this, is like swimming towards a great white shark, vs jumping back into your boat. Logic being, that you belong in the water like they do, so flailing your arms and being prepared to fight it is the only option.

Sounds logical to such a person, but logic will have one consider the missing limbs or shortened life to follow.

[I am Groot]

On 3/30/2024 at 12:41 PM, CdnFox said:

For sure.  There was a lot of sympathy for them, more so than even the gays to an extent because more easily recognized it as a medical issue and not a 'choice' for some reason. 

It's only a 'medical issue' for a tiny subset of those who call themself 'trans'. That is, the ones who actually suffer from gender dysmorphia. 

The bulk of them, including, I suspect, all the activists, are playacting due to a variety of emotional and psychological issues.

Edited April 3, 2024 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

On 4/1/2024 at 6:23 PM, Perspektiv said:

You should be protecting women from this. You can't possibly call yourself a feminist, and feel okay with this, in it somehow empowering women.

I feel the same. And yet, as anyone who has watched this unfold knows, the people most determined to push this stuff on us are... women. It is the women, the feminists, and especially lesbians, who are pushing this stuff, even though it harms them in the end, as per this article.

Btw, Michael Hardner, here is that definition of 'woke' you were looking for.

“Wokeness” has been described as everything from a political epithet for a bogeyman of the extreme left to a catch-all for any cause whatsoever that concerns itself with the well-being of an identifiable group. A more reasonable definition, borrowed from political scientist Yascha Mounk, is that wokeness is a version of social justice based on what he terms “the identity synthesis.” It views human beings not as individuals, but as a collection of group identities that are either oppressed, or oppressive. And to be oppressed is to be virtuous; to be a victim is to hold precious social cachet. The more oppressed one is, the better a person they are.

Amy Hamm: Wokeness hurts women. Why do so many support it? (msn.com)

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

 

Btw, Michael Hardner, here is that definition of 'woke' you were looking for.

“Wokeness” has been described as everything from a political epithet for a bogeyman of the extreme left to a catch-all for any cause whatsoever that concerns itself with the well-being of an identifiable group. A more reasonable definition, borrowed from political scientist Yascha Mounk, is that wokeness is a version of social justice based on what he terms “the identity synthesis.” It views human beings not as individuals, but as a collection of group identities that are either oppressed, or oppressive. And to be oppressed is to be virtuous; to be a victim is to hold precious social cachet. The more oppressed one is, the better a person they are.

Amy Hamm: Wokeness hurts women. Why do so many support it? (msn.com)

That's interesting, but it ties a concept to another concept.

I don't think it clears much up when it comes to how we get through policy questions.