Prayer & God

[TreeBeard]

Just now, Nationalist said:

It does not make it "right". The situation can make it neccessary.

That you insist on conflating the 2 only exhibits your lack of understanding.

There is no discernible difference between “it’s not right, but you should do it anyway and you will be forgiven and not punished” and “it’s the right thing to do based on the circumstances”.  

Clearly, you are arguing over semantics, unless you can provide the actual difference.

Saying I lack understanding, or need to find wisdom, or other nonsense you state trying to distract from the point, or get you out of actually having to justify your reasoning  isn’t good enough.  

 

[French Patriot]

On 1/31/2024 at 8:24 AM, mukinurmorad said:

I get what you mean about prayer—it's like a personal chat with yourself. But for me, it's also a way to tap into something bigger, you know? We all see God differently. It's cool how diverse our beliefs are.

Yes, but never forget inquisitions and jihads and how we should put man above our human created Gods.

[French Patriot]

8 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

It does make it necessary though, correct?  What would God do about it?  Is there punishment awaiting?

If it’s not right, then I should let the child starve?

Isnt this a case of situational ethics?  The situation determines whether something is right or wrong.  Not the biblical commandment “thou shalt not steal”.  

Where is your biblical objective morality now?   You admit to breaking commandments in certain situations.  You’re now a secular humanist!

I am surprised that you got that much coherency out of our moral question dodging friend.

I must go for the throat too quickly. He just runs from any moral question I ask, even with biblical quotes.

[TreeBeard]

13 hours ago, French Patriot said:

I am surprised that you got that much coherency out of our moral question dodging friend.

They were very willing to discuss and stayed on topic.  No name calling or ….  Well, there was a little name calling on their part….  But it is an interesting topic!
 

They would defy the word of their God and do something “wrong” for the greater good.   Situational ethics in a nutshell.  Objective morality was set aside. 

[French Patriot]

4 hours ago, TreeBeard said:

Objective morality was set aside.

I do not see such a thing as existing.

Wait.

Would, --- set notions of objective morals aside, in favor of subjective morals, --- an objective moral tenet?

Did I just refute my first sentence ?