CdnFox Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 https://archive.ph/PU2EA I see that the star is already ratcheting up the fear mongering. Honestly i think the liberals are desperately hoping that donald will win. They're already setting the stage with articles like this - "only the liberals have the experience to hold Th' DONALD back!! IF Th' DONALD is in power then if you have PP in power you'll have a right wing perfect storm which will destroy the entire planet!" etc etc. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Zeitgeist Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 I think Donald Trump would be a disaster —.for the Liberal Party of Canada. The Conservatives have the opportunity to forge a great partnership with the US under Trump. Keep an open mind. 2 Quote
Legato Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 The Liberal Party has been a disaster to itself. No help needed from Trump. 2 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Posted October 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I think Donald Trump would be a disaster —.for the Liberal Party of Canada. The Conservatives have the opportunity to forge a great partnership with the US under Trump. Keep an open mind. Well i think that the liberals hope to use trump as a boogie man to scare liberal voters out to the polls on voting day. And that might actually work a bit. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Zeitgeist Posted October 9, 2023 Report Posted October 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Well i think that the liberals hope to use trump as a boogie man to scare liberal voters out to the polls on voting day. And that might actually work a bit. Not if they think Trump has a good chance of winning and they remember how much Trump detests Trudeau. I’d go as far as to say that having Trudeau in office if Trump is the next president puts Canada at real risk, because we won’t be invited to the discussion table on many issues. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 9, 2023 Author Report Posted October 9, 2023 4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Not if they think Trump has a good chance of winning and they remember how much Trump detests Trudeau. I’d go as far as to say that having Trudeau in office if Trump is the next president puts Canada at real risk, because we won’t be invited to the discussion table on many issues. That's not an unfair statement at all - trump hates trudeau and trudeau soils his panties when trump gets in his face. But - the reality is that many voters would feel (and in fact felt back in the day) that a "Far Right Radical Deplorable" like trump would demand a more left leaning prime minister to counter I mean can you imagine? PP and Trump together would ban gays, make catholic church manditory for all people, compel teachers to carry firearms at all times to defend their classes, stop all abortions everywhere and even lock up women who miscarry (or 'heavenly abortion' as they would call it) and everyone would have to eat at least one course of brussel sprouts every day. ONLY a left wing gov't would DAAARREE stand against this evil agenda. And Canadian voters tend to buy into that stuff. We saw that when trump was in before. And there is a long standing tradition in many provinces like ontario whereby GENERALLY speaking if there's a right wing gov't in ottawa they want a left wing gov't in provincially, and vice versa. Canadians like that 'offset' concept in their politics, moreso than Americans do Even with the abortion issue - when the states struck roe vs wade there was an upswing of support for the liberals in canada - as if it had squat to do with us. It would have an impact for sure and i think Trudeau is hoping he can turn it into a divisive issue. God knows he's running out of issues other than that. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Legato said: The Liberal Party has been a disaster to itself. No help needed from Trump. I do not think that if we had a conservative government, our relationship with Trump would be any different. Does anyone really think PP could go toe to toe with Trump??? PP would only be a straight man in that tragic comedy duo Trump is for Trump, period!. Edited October 10, 2023 by ExFlyer 1 Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
CdnFox Posted October 10, 2023 Author Report Posted October 10, 2023 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: I do not think that if we had a conservative government, our relationship with Trump would be any different. I don't think the 'conservative liberal' part would make any difference, that's true. But - i think that a different leader would have handled trump entirely better and truduea has poisoned that relationship at this point. Harper for example would have handled trump differently and very likely gotten more of what he wanted. Truth be told I think chretien would have as well. 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Does anyone really think PP could go toe to toe with Trump??? Absolutely. there is no doubt. He understands how to work a political game far better than trudeau and you need to understand that at the end of the day trump is a big baby with big fisher-price sized easy to push buttons. This is all about diplomatic tactics and PP plays that game well. I think Chretien, mulroney, harper AND PP would all have done better with trump than Trudeau did. Trudeau doesn't get how any of this works - and he picks the people around him for their loyalty and their intersectional points, NOT their skill. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
ExFlyer Posted October 10, 2023 Report Posted October 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I don't think the 'conservative liberal' part would make any difference, that's true. But - i think that a different leader would have handled trump entirely better and truduea has poisoned that relationship at this point. Harper for example would have handled trump differently and very likely gotten more of what he wanted. Truth be told I think chretien would have as well. Absolutely. there is no doubt. He understands how to work a political game far better than trudeau and you need to understand that at the end of the day trump is a big baby with big fisher-price sized easy to push buttons. This is all about diplomatic tactics and PP plays that game well. I think Chretien, mulroney, harper AND PP would all have done better with trump than Trudeau did. Trudeau doesn't get how any of this works - and he picks the people around him for their loyalty and their intersectional points, NOT their skill. I agree, a different person could have done better with Trumpian America but, woulda, coulda shoulda is all moot. I am not convinced Obama was a good president but man, he could sure talk. A great orator. We;ll, trump, in my opinion was a lousy president but man, could he v]ever talk...another great orator but in a different direction with different objectives. Cannot say PP will do well toe to tow with Trump and if it is only words PP has, he is already lost. America the big will win. Quote Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But you are not entitled to your own facts.
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