Harper... Hate or Love?

[Guest eureka]

But it is, shoop. For one instance, the GST proposals should make even the most dedicated CPC supporters pause. There is hardly a prominent economist in the country who has not said it is a bad idea. There is not one that I have heard quoted that has not said there are many better ways for all the reasons that have been gone into in the forums.

Yet Harper persists. Why does he? Is it simply because it appeals to ignorance and buys votes. Or is it because he does not, as I postulated, understand the consequences.

If it is the latter, then he is stupid. Worse, he is a megalomaniac convinced of the infallibility of his own beliefs.

You're darned right I will attack him. I consider him a greater danger to Canada than Duceppe. Greater in his proposals to dismantle the federation; and far greater in his proposals to decivilize the nation's values.

[shoop]

Here is what I can't understand. Are you just perpetuating the Liberal line or do you honestly believe this crap? When it comes to *what you have heard*, where do you get your news from? CBC? Toronto Star? G&M? Do you read any sources that aren't anti-CPC?

The Martinites are so focused on winning power for the sake of it they have NOTHING positive to say about anybody they see as an *enemy*, including many in their own power. This incestuous behaviour has lead to the groupthink that creates the arrogance of Scott *beer and popcorn* Reid.

This arrogance is what is losing the election for you guys. Keep it up.

There is hardly a prominent economist in the country who has not said it is a bad idea. There is not one that I have heard quoted that has not said there are many better ways for all the reasons that have been gone into in the forums.

You're darned right I will attack him. I consider him a greater danger to Canada than Duceppe. Greater in his proposals to dismantle the federation; and far greater in his proposals to decivilize the nation's values.

[tml12]

I am not crazy about cutting the GST.

But the CPC is still the best party when you add all the issues up. Elections should never be decided on ONE issue.

[Argus]

Argus, you took my quote out of context. I may be an idiot, but I can thin,k for myself, and not spout baseless drivel as fact.

You have thus far failed to demonstrate this.

[Guest eureka]

If "elections should not be decided on one issue," then why do you favour the CPC? There is hardly a splinter in their platform that is not tax related.

Harper must have been taught in his cradle to hate the word tax. He has devoted his life to trying to grt it removed from the dictionary.

[tml12]

If "elections should not be decided on one issue," then why do you favour the CPC? There is hardly a splinter in their platform that is not tax related.

Harper must have been taught in his cradle to hate the word tax. He has devoted his life to trying to grt it removed from the dictionary.

http://www.conservative.ca/EN/1141/

Eureka,

What does equality, government transparency, family values, federalism, etc. have to do with taxes?

The left is just getting silly...

[scribblet]

Conservative fiscal plan fully costed, fully budgeted, fully balanced

08 January 2006

Spending and tax plan independently verified by the Conference Board of Canada

OTTAWA – The Conservative Party of Canada today released a letter from the Conference Board of Canada ( attached) showing that the Conservative platform is fully affordable in each year from 2005 through 2011.

“In summary,” wrote Paul Darby, Deputy Chief Economist of the CBoC, “we found that the Conservative Party’s economic platform is affordable in each fiscal year from 2005-2006 through 2010-2011. In each year there is enough fiscal room to pay down at least $3 billion a year in debt, as in the [government’s] fiscal plan.”

The Conference Board also found that there is substantial surplus in the Conservative fiscal plan: “Over the five-year forecast horizon to 2010-2011, the CBoC economic and fiscal outlook suggests that there remains $15.7 billion in unallocated fiscal room, over and above the annual debt payment, which provides further cushion to ensure that deficits do not occur due to adverse economic effects.”

The Conference Board was given access to the entire Conservative platform in order to conduct its analysis. The Conservative party will release its whole platform and supporting fiscal framework later this week.

“The Conservative plan includes balanced budgets, annual debt repayment, and a package of tax reductions far more generous than that offered by any other party,” said Monte Solberg, the Conservative Party’s Finance Critic.

http://www.conservative.ca/EN/1091/38243

[The Honest Politician]

Monte Solberg, says lots of things.

For a moment I considered subduing them all with some (illegal) martial arts moves, and then having them shipped to Guantanamo Bay, but there were too many witnesses

There are a couple of things I would like to see in the Conservatives budget:

All the associated costs with creating the privatized home-based daycare

The cost of increased prison spaces and workers to house the enevitable build up of mandatory sentences

The actual projected GST savings for someone who has $25,000 after tax income compared to $200,000 after tax income. I want to see housing/food costs, savings, everything. This "tax cut for the poor" is a crock.

[Canuck E Stan]

There are a couple of things I would like to see in the Conservatives budget:

All the associated costs with creating the privatized home-based daycare

The cost of increased prison spaces and workers to house the enevitable build up of mandatory sentences

The actual projected GST savings for someone who has $25,000 after tax income compared to $200,000 after tax income. I want to see housing/food costs, savings, everything. This "tax cut for the poor" is a crock.

And the Liberal program costs will be free? Get real.

It will cost to set up Liberal warehouse daycare and cost plenty, and it will be years before one space is even available.

Your dreaming..... it will be a Liberal boondoggle like the $200 million gun registry that turned into $2 billion...

....if it even happens.

[tml12]

There are a couple of things I would like to see in the Conservatives budget:

All the associated costs with creating the privatized home-based daycare

The cost of increased prison spaces and workers to house the enevitable build up of mandatory sentences

The actual projected GST savings for someone who has $25,000 after tax income compared to $200,000 after tax income. I want to see housing/food costs, savings, everything. This "tax cut for the poor" is a crock.

And the Liberal program costs will be free? Get real.

It will cost to set up Liberal warehouse daycare and cost plenty, and it will be years before one space is even available.

Your dreaming..... it will be a Liberal boondoggle like the $200 million gun registry that turned into $2 billion...

....if it even happens.

I hope not Canuck E Stan,

I could have made 500 voyages around the world with all the money the Liberal Party stole from me to fix various elections... :angry:

[stignasty]

I could have made 500 voyages around the world with all the money the Liberal Party stole from me to fix various elections... : angry :

The Liberal party stole $2,000,000 from you to fix various elections. You must have had to work a ton of hours at Wal-mart to make that much in the first place. No wonder you're angry.

[Wilber]

I could have made 500 voyages around the world with all the money the Liberal Party stole from me to fix various elections... : angry :

The Liberal party stole $2,000,000 from you to fix various elections. You must have had to work a ton of hours at Wal-mart to make that much in the first place. No wonder you're angry.

You have something against people who work at Walmart? Which one are you, Reid, Duffy or Klanger?

[Guest eureka]

What does equality, government transparency, family values, federalism, etc. have to do with taxes?

What do any of those things have to do with this Conservative Party? They propose to increase the inequalities in Canada - already one of the most unequal societies in the world.

What do they propose for transparency that is not already there or under consideration?

What family values do they propose to strenghten other than the social conservative values of bigotry and exclusion?

What do they propose to do about federalism other than to destroy it?

And all on the back of the tax system.

The Conference Board of Canada is a Conservative body and its conclusions are sheer nonsense: politically motivated nonsense.

I suggested somewhere that the Conservative proposals should be costed out for yourselves. They come to far more than any budget surplus foreseeable.

It also ignores the probability of recession in the not very distant future.

And, that does not take into consideration the corporate tax cuts they have promised but have, as discretion dictates, not announced and will not.

[BubberMiley]

The Liberal party stole $2,000,000 from you to fix various elections.

Don't you worry that you totally lose credibility when you imply that stealing money to fund an election campaign is "fixing" an election?

[Canuck E Stan]

It also ignores the probability of recession in the not very distant future.

Golly gee Eureka,

Can't be happening, Paul and the boys have only happy,happy joy,joy news to tell us about the economy.

Are you saying they aren't telling us everything?

[scribblet]

The Liberal party stole $2,000,000 from you to fix various elections.

Don't you worry that you totally lose credibility when you imply that stealing money to fund an election campaign is "fixing" an election?

He's not too far off actually. There were some candidates who funded their campaign e.g. purchase of signs, under the table through the sponsorship funds. We'll never know, but maybe these guys would not have won if they hadn't received that money.

Paul Martin has been lying to Canadian (yeah, I know, big surprise)and is saying that he has seen the numbers and Tory spending and tax promises mean future deficits for Canada.

Here is a posted copy of the letter:

http://www.conservativelife.com/blog/index...a_conservative_

Beautiful!

Essentially, the report stated that is at least 3 billion is available each year for debt servicing. In addition there is likely an additional 15.7 billion of cushion room should any unforeseen eventualities emerge. Very

prudent.

Talk about deflating Paul Martin's balloon. Looks great!