Governor DeSantis: Woke is an existential threat to our society.

[reason10]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/desantis-super-pac-rails-against-woke-ideology-new-ad-existential-threat-society

Pro-DeSantis super PAC rails against 'woke' ideology in new ad: 'Existential threat to our society'

EXCLUSIVE: The super PAC supporting Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis' 2024 presidential bid is airing its sixth television ad Monday highlighting the GOP hopeful’s "War on Woke." 

The thirty-second spot, which will air in Iowa and South Carolina as part of a seven-figure ad buy, shows DeSantis deriding "woke" ideology as "an attack on truth" and a form of "cultural Marxism." 

The ad praises the governor for "protecting children from mutilation and indoctrination" and "standing up to woke corporations." 

Former collegiate swimmer Riley Gaines, who has gained national attention for speaking out against trans women competing against women in sports, makes a cameo in the ad.

"He’s drawn a line and he’s said, ‘enough is enough,’" Gaines says in the video, referring to the governor’s banning of men from competing in women’s sports. 

The ad from "Never Back Down" follows the group’s five previous spots: Once Upon a Time, Punching Back, Anthem, Steel, and Winner.

DeSantis has proclaimed Florida as the place where "woke goes to die" and has said as president, he would continue to take a firm stance in the culture war. 

If the Republican Party can uncircle the firing squad and unify as a party, Woke will be the instant downfall of the DemoNazis. Governor DeSantis is the most brilliant governor in the history of Florida and the most brilliant governor in the United States. He's right on this.

 

Edited June 26, 2023 by reason10

[Michael Hardner]

 

[Guest]

Woke is a threat, but reverting to a time where others lost rights, isn't any less of a threat.

But woke has to die. People are fed up.

[reason10]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

 

Left wing goose steppers have no sense of decency. And perhaps you should maybe research the history of that clip that you just blindly decided to include.

 

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

Woke is a threat, but reverting to a time where others lost rights, isn't any less of a threat.

But woke has to die. People are fed up.

Just out of curiosity, when was there a time where others lost rights?

What periods in American history has the concept of RIGHTS taken a step backward?

Probably the ULTIMATE loss of rights was SLAVERY. That existed before this country was formed. It was overturned by Republicans and took a bloody civil war to do that. Democrat created Jim Crow laws cost blacks a LOT of rights. before they were overturned by Republicans. Women were given the right to vote by Republicans.

The famous Hillsdale College (a conservative bastion of higher education that refuses to give government any statistics as to the race of its student body) was the FIRST college to graduate a black female.

Not too long ago, what some people might call the Trump Supreme Court gave the RIGHT TO LIFE to the most vulnerable demographic in America: THE UNBORN.

Over the years, it appears that we seem to be getting MORE AND MORE right as we go. And I'm pretty sure there's NOTHING in the constitution that gives QUEERS the right to molest children.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

 But woke has to die. People are fed up.

Won't in die in the theatre of ideas where other bad ideas die ?  What other ideas do governments get together to act on ?

Usually it's about including groups into 'protected' groups, which is done slowly and with much controversy.  But not much else other than commercial communication (to my mind) has warranted govt. attention in the past.

[reason10]

Won't in die in the theatre of ideas where other bad ideas die ?  What other ideas do governments get together to act on ?

Actually the term is  "marketplace of ideas." Some brilliant thinker came up with that back in the late 80s early 90s, when Rush Limbaugh had radically upended the communist left's monopoly on public opinion. (ask your parents about that. Probably happened LONG before you were born.)  Ideas are subject to a marketplace in a free society.

Usually it's about including groups into 'protected' groups, which is done slowly and with much controversy.  But not much else other than commercial communication (to my mind) has warranted govt. attention in the past.

Oh, really? Where did PRIDE month come from? Where did Affirmative Action (the JIm Crow of the late 20th Century come from? Where did that disastrous "fairness doctrine" ooze from, but government. 

It would seem that government has no problem exercising its  power over things it doesn't like. The brilliant Governor DeSantis passed a law in  Florida to give PARENTS a greater say in what their TAXPAYER FINANCED public schools are spewing. When Disney threatened to take legal action, Governor DeSantis then took away Disney's special  privileges. But Disney is STILL permitted to make child porn movies, push queer culture on the public and make the Orlando area even a worse traffic hell hole than it already is.

 

[TreeBeard]

5 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

But woke has to die. People are fed up.

What are people fed up with?  What is “woke”?

[Guest]

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

What are people fed up with?  What is “woke”?

Woke ideology.

The notion that victimhood, truth being subjective and the suppression of speech take a driver's seat ahead of merit, freedom of speech and the truth in the name of "equality". In reality, its those who have no merit, using these suppression to get what they haven't earned, based on victimhood status.

It means well, but essentially creates the very issues it is fighting (division, segregation, hate, etc).

[TreeBeard]

59 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Woke ideology.

The notion that victimhood, truth being subjective and the suppression of speech take a driver's seat ahead of merit, freedom of speech and the truth in the name of "equality". In reality, its those who have no merit, using these suppression to get what they haven't earned, based on victimhood status.

It means well, but essentially creates the very issues it is fighting (division, segregation, hate, etc).

The ideology of “woke” is defined by its opposition in such vague terms, like you just did, that it is entirely vapid and impossible for me to come down for or against.  I can see being for and against all of the things you mentioned.  It’s much better to take specific examples of actions and argue the merits for or against.  
 

But when that happens, you often lose the bogeyman that is “woke ideology”.  And those with power need their bogeymen.  

[reason10]

On 6/26/2023 at 6:50 PM, TreeBeard said:

The ideology of “woke” is defined by its opposition in such vague terms, like you just did, that it is entirely vapid and impossible for me to come down for or against.  I can see being for and against all of the things you mentioned.  It’s much better to take specific examples of actions and argue the merits for or against.  
 

But when that happens, you often lose the bogeyman that is “woke ideology”.  And those with power need their bogeymen.  

Woke ideology is pretty simple: Institutionalized racism, cancel culture, proCRIME, anti Free Speech, pro illegal immigration.

In other words, Woke today is what the Limbaugh faction used to call Liberals back in the 90s. Except we had no idea the liberals today would be so extravagant and stupid.

[SpankyMcFarland]

It’s not an existential problem. Let’s get a grip here. 

[reason10]

21 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

It’s not an existential problem. Let’s get a grip here. 

It is a group of highly toxic philosophies that has been given a name: WOKE.

This title didn't even exist five years ago.

Come to think of it, in the early Seventies, the term "liberalism" wasn't linked with goose stepping National Socialism like it is today. You should worry about a new set of toxic societal symptoms ten years from now, and what they might be called.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Do you really believe such ideas threaten our very existence? I find that hard to understand. 

Like many countries, America has a history with tragic aspects. To prevent students fully understanding their common heritage is a poor sign in any aspiring leader. Teenagers want to know the truth and they deserve to hear it. Lord knows how long such precious liberties will endure in a world so threatened by authoritarianism.

Edited July 3, 2023 by SpankyMcFarland

[reason10]

Do you really believe such ideas threaten our very existence? I find that hard to understand.

Most intelligent people believe that. National Socialism is responsible for the LARGEST acts of genocide in the history of Mankind. THIS is Woke.

Like many countries, America has a history with tragic aspects. To prevent students fully understanding their common heritage is a poor sign in any aspiring leader. Teenagers want to know the truth and they deserve to hear it. Lord knows how long such precious liberties will endure in a world so threatened by authoritarianism.

Apparently you have never actually ENTERED a United States  public school, if you're that stupid. Teenagers (and this is from a substitute who has worked in the system since 1999) are interested in the latest video games on their  computers and cell phones. I have NEVER entered a  Social Studies class where ANY student has EVER asked any question about America's tragic aspect history. And this is in Florida where we have the smartest students and the best public schools in the country. (Probably in blue state schools, the students are waiting for the teachers to bring them fresh crack pipes.)

Nobody in the public school system is denying the kids ANY knowledge about common heritage. In our job it is an EFFORT to get the kids to fcking PAY ATTENTION to the studies about American heritage.

It's Nazis like you who want to tear down statues of people like Robert E. Lee, just because the NAZIS in your camp are suddenly offended by even his NAME.

 

[Michael Hardner]

13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

 To prevent students fully understanding their common heritage is a poor sign in any aspiring leader.  

Except that they're a market for such ideas: shoot the messenger.

Self-criticism is not something that most in the west want to hear about, which is why we're intellectually soft.

[SpankyMcFarland]

10 hours ago, reason10 said:

Do you really believe such ideas threaten our very existence? I find that hard to understand.

Most intelligent people believe that. National Socialism is responsible for the LARGEST acts of genocide in the history of Mankind. THIS is Woke.

Like many countries, America has a history with tragic aspects. To prevent students fully understanding their common heritage is a poor sign in any aspiring leader. Teenagers want to know the truth and they deserve to hear it. Lord knows how long such precious liberties will endure in a world so threatened by authoritarianism.

Apparently you have never actually ENTERED a United States  public school, if you're that stupid. Teenagers (and this is from a substitute who has worked in the system since 1999) are interested in the latest video games on their  computers and cell phones. I have NEVER entered a  Social Studies class where ANY student has EVER asked any question about America's tragic aspect history. And this is in Florida where we have the smartest students and the best public schools in the country. (Probably in blue state schools, the students are waiting for the teachers to bring them fresh crack pipes.)

Nobody in the public school system is denying the kids ANY knowledge about common heritage. In our job it is an EFFORT to get the kids to fcking PAY ATTENTION to the studies about American heritage.

It's Nazis like you who want to tear down statues of people like Robert E. Lee, just because the NAZIS in your camp are suddenly offended by even his NAME.

 

That is so completely deranged. The thought of you in a school is frightening. 

[reason10]

2 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

That is so completely deranged. The thought of you in a school is frightening. 

The thought of you ever graduating from kindergarten is unimaginable.

National Socialism gave us the HOLOCAUST.

Stalin's socialism murdered A HUNDRED MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Grow a brain, you ignoramus.

8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Except that they're a market for such ideas: shoot the messenger.

Self-criticism is not something that most in the west want to hear about, which is why we're intellectually soft.

So far, all you goose steppers have done since I arrived here is shoot the messenger, even as I bring truth and fact, backed up by reliable sources.

Seig Heil.

Edited July 4, 2023 by reason10

[SpankyMcFarland]

12 hours ago, reason10 said:

The thought of you ever graduating from kindergarten is unimaginable.

National Socialism gave us the HOLOCAUST.

Stalin's socialism murdered A HUNDRED MILLION INNOCENT PEOPLE.

Grow a brain, you ignoramus.

So far, all you goose steppers have done since I arrived here is shoot the messenger, even as I bring truth and fact, backed up by reliable sources.

Seig Heil.

B’y, we’ll say some gay Canadian prayers for you. 

[reason10]

1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

B’y, we’ll say some gay Canadian prayers for you. 

Which Canadian Prayers? From Quebec? Toronto? Saskatchewan? Nova Scotia? And what is so special about queer prayers? How are they different and even superior to regular Christian or Jew prayers?

As I recall the Christians and Jews didn't have a lot positive to say about queers. This was pretty much their view.

Bible Verses about Homosexuality

Leviticus 18:22 ~ You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 ~ If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.

Jude 1:7 ~ Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Romans 1:26-28 ~ For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.

 

It gets worse with the Muslims.

Be careful who you throw that queer label around in front of. Queers aren't exactly liked by religions in general, so a queer prayer is a oxymoron.

Personally, I don't care one way or another about the queers. They live their lives and I'll live mine. I won't shove my lifestyle in their face and I expect them to show me the same courtesy.

 

[reason10]

On 6/26/2023 at 2:36 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Won't in die in the theatre of ideas where other bad ideas die ?  What other ideas do governments get together to act on ?

Usually it's about including groups into 'protected' groups, which is done slowly and with much controversy.  But not much else other than commercial communication (to my mind) has warranted govt. attention in the past.

In the United States, we call it the Marketplace Of Ideas. That means an idea has to be SOLD to the public, not just crammed down their throats with orders to shut the fck up and agree.

in the marketplace of ideas, a cheesy trans sexual freak has cost the Bud Light product MILLIONS in market share. That's the FREE MARKET and the marketplace of ideas rendering a verdict.

[SpankyMcFarland]

DeSantis is trying to prove he’s more bigoted than Trump, but if he wins the nomination he will have lost many traditional Republican voters in the process, especially better educated women, and Independents too. The base alone just isn’t big enough to compete with Democrats these days. 

[reason10]

12 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

DeSantis is trying to prove he’s more bigoted than Trump, but if he wins the nomination he will have lost many traditional Republican voters in the process, especially better educated women, and Independents too. The base alone just isn’t big enough to compete with Democrats these days. 

The only bigots are CRITICS of DeSantis and Trump. Then again, Democrats and ALL LIBERALS are the worst racists on the planet. Just look at the shit fit they threw when the Supreme Court outlawed Affirmative Discrimination for colleges.

The best educated people voted for DeSantis and Trump. Only RACIST IDI0TS and illegal aliens voted for Democrats.

[SpankyMcFarland]

3 hours ago, reason10 said:

The best educated people voted for DeSantis and Trump.

So the PhDs flocked to Trump? I did not know that. Can you provide a link to confirm this surprising association between high levels of education and a burning love for the MAGA brand? 

[Michael Hardner]

3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

So the PhDs flocked to Trump? I did not know that. Can you provide a link to confirm this surprising association between high levels of education and a burning love for the MAGA brand? 

Biden beat Trump 67% to 32% on the postgraduate vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/#:~:text=Some of the largest differences,voters but half of nonvoters.

[SpankyMcFarland]

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Biden beat Trump 67% to 32% on the postgraduate vote.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/#:~:text=Some of the largest differences,voters but half of nonvoters.

There you go with your MSM ‘facts’ again.