reason10 Posted November 25, 2022 Report Posted November 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: And yours comes from dubious mythology. Have you read Allen's book? It is well researched, using primary documents. When the Whigs could not get their way by legal means, they used violence. That impulse to use a gun to settle disagreements became part of American culture. It is ironic that a nation which is the most generous and enlightened nation in the world still has a small segment of people who feel so frightened that they have to pack a gun. As I said earlier, IIRC, something like 50% of the firearms in the US are owned by 3% of the population. Now, I am happy to admit, I am glad to live in Canada with a neighbour like the USA. We have very different cultures and beliefs, but since 1930, relations have been an example to the world. Actually, the concept of using a gun to settle disagreements was OUTLAWED in the United States. It was called DUELING, and was outlawed in 1859. Dueling is legal in Texas but with fists only. Whoever says that half the firearms in the US are owned by 3% of the population is high on meth. Pretty much EVERY violent criminal has a gun. In states that cherish the Constitution, (Texas, MIssissippi, West Virginia, Florida, etc) a lot more than 3% own a firearm. Legal gun owners are not a threat, except to the animals who try to mug them, car jack them or commit a home invasion. Yes America and Canada have different cultures. Some are good; some are not. But Canada still brews the best beer. 1 Quote
Hodad Posted November 25, 2022 Report Posted November 25, 2022 2 hours ago, reason10 said: Actually, words like conservative and liberal have undergone radical definition change in America. At one time a conservative was a stubborn know nothing, who fought tooth and nail against any change at all. I do believe you've thoroughly undermined your premise. Quote
Queenmandy85 Posted November 25, 2022 Author Report Posted November 25, 2022 6 hours ago, reason10 said: Actually, the concept of using a gun to settle disagreements was OUTLAWED in the United States. It was called DUELING, and was outlawed in 1859. Another name for it is road rage. I defer to your better knowledge on who owns the most guns. I don't remember where I heard that. Your comment about animals overlooks the fact we are all animals. On the topic of beer, again, I defer to your expertise. I haven't had a beer in over 20 years. I loved it with too much passion. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
Kornak Posted December 26, 2022 Report Posted December 26, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 7:08 PM, Queenmandy85 said: And yours comes from dubious mythology. Have you read Allen's book? It is well researched, using primary documents. When the Whigs could not get their way by legal means, they used violence. That impulse to use a gun to settle disagreements became part of American culture. It is ironic that a nation which is the most generous and enlightened nation in the world still has a small segment of people who feel so frightened that they have to pack a gun. As I said earlier, IIRC, something like 50% of the firearms in the US are owned by 3% of the population. Now, I am happy to admit, I am glad to live in Canada with a neighbour like the USA. We have very different cultures and beliefs, but since 1930, relations have been an example to the world. Ain't no way those stats are right, most households out here(Tx) have 1-2 firearms per. 50% of all firearms being in hands of 3% would inquire that some people own like 50+ firearms per person. Quote
reason10 Posted December 28, 2022 Report Posted December 28, 2022 On 11/23/2022 at 3:03 PM, Queenmandy85 said: Of all the rights available to our American neighbours, why is the right to bare arms the one that seems to be so sacred. Perhaps it is just the forums I lurk in but it seems to me that gun rights seem to outweigh the right to free speech, freedom of religion or a free press. In the eighteenth century, firearms were a necessity for getting food and making up for an eastablished constabulary. Now, the US has lots of supermarkets and more police agencies than you can shake a stick at. The Second Amendment saved a Miami woman from being robbed, raped and maybe murdered by this animal. http://conservativematrix.com/woman-shoots-person-robbing-home-now-robbers-family-irate-woman/?fbclid=IwAR1fL5PosJFXietMzEwgLkVskDWLNIPp8xSzr8tF7nnBvQ1OBn_EYMyDQgw Crime, General News, Opinion, U.S. Woman Shoots Person Robbing Her Home… Now The Robbers Family Is Irate At The Woman by Phoenix Brooks Views: 270532 Quote In what should have been an open-and-shut case, a Miami home owner shot and killed a burglar that intended to rob her property and possibly hurt or kill her. 17-year old Trevon Johnson’s final action as a human being was to invade the private residence of a Florida woman who, unfortunately for Mr. Johnson, believed in her 2nd Amendment right to protect herself with a firearm. Tell us why you think this woman deserved to DIE. Quote
reason10 Posted December 28, 2022 Report Posted December 28, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 12:41 PM, Hodad said: I do believe you've thoroughly undermined your premise. That's because you have no education. You do not know what you are talking about. Quote
reason10 Posted December 28, 2022 Report Posted December 28, 2022 On 11/25/2022 at 6:34 PM, Queenmandy85 said: Another name for it is road rage. I defer to your better knowledge on who owns the most guns. I don't remember where I heard that. Your comment about animals overlooks the fact we are all animals. On the topic of beer, again, I defer to your expertise. I haven't had a beer in over 20 years. I loved it with too much passion. Here's an original idea: If you do not want to own a gun, (and I do not want to own a gun) do not buy one. If someone else wants to own a gun, it's none of your business. Quote
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