McTeague wants Fitty Cent banned!

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When I first heard this news I thought, "Oh my God, who is the dumb rednecked CPC MP saying this crap?!"

Then I heard it was a Liberal. BA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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[Canuck E Stan]

It's part of the new Liberal gun control program

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Gun control or mind control?

It's part of the new Liberal gun control program

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[Montgomery Burns]

The Liberal Party-controlled CRTC banned the Fox News Channel for 5 years -despite a high demand for this news channel - (and it would still likely be banned if not for the outrage directed at the CRTC for approving Jihad-TV, aka Al Jazeera, 5 months before they, reluctantly, lifted their 5 year ban off the FNC).

Now they want to ban Fifty Cent. Just another sad attempt by the Liberals to pretend they are tough on crime.

*Psst* Fifty Cent is American. America. Guns. You get the (liberal) picture...

The Liberal Party didn't want the Fox News Channel in Canada, but they had no problems purposedly inviting exotic dancers and prostitutes from Eastern Europe into Canada.

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Has anyone heard his name pronounced as "Fitty Cent" by a journalist? Wouldn't that be correct as it is his preferred pronunciation?

[Yaro]

The Liberal Party-controlled CRTC banned the Fox News Channel for 5 years -despite a high demand for this news channel - (and it would still likely be banned if not for the outrage directed at the CRTC for approving Jihad-TV, aka Al Jazeera, 5 months before they, reluctantly, lifted their 5 year ban off the FNC).

The same Fox news that has been censured 3 times by the British government, and whose carrier has been warned that if the show continues to be broadcast as news it will be shut down? While I don't approve of most of what Al Jazeera has to say, I don't think many people take every story represented on it as being believable, I don't even think it’s presented technically as a news source. Fox news however has and continues to lie often and consistently.

Neither Fox news nor Al Jazeera if held strictly to Canadian broadcast standards could broadcast in Canada as news shows.

[RB]

my 2 cents worth since I have to reluctantly listen to this music

even though 50 Cents is a pitiful icon for the youngsters - he cannot be blamed for Toronto's shooting and gang problem

I understand at his last performance there was a shooting

[theloniusfleabag]

Dear shoop,

Has anyone heard his name pronounced as "Fitty Cent" by a journalist? Wouldn't that be correct as it is his preferred pronunciation?

Just because he can't pronounce his own name doesn't mean that journalists should start using 'pidgin english' also. What if he had a harelip or mild retardation? Pronouncing his name the same way he does would then be seen as mockery.

Journalists need to stick to the English language (though I realize it can and does change) and not start taking 'the lazy way'...(fitty cent indeed...more of a drunken/drugged mumble than a pronounciation)

[PocketRocket]

No more than 10 minutes ago I posted this in another thread wherein the proposed 50-Cent ban came into discussion, but it seems more suitable here.....

With the internet being what it is, even talking about banning any form of music is ludicrous.

Kids will listen to whatever they want to hear, and if they can't get it in the stores, they will find it online.

Likewise the artists; if the stores are not allowed to carry their music, the "artists" will simply put it online.

Any sort of "ban" would simply play into their hands; "Look at this, they've banned my tunes, hear 'em here, at www.mygarbagetunes.whatever."

Kids simply FLOCK to banned stuff.

One way to virtually guarantee a new album release going platinum is to put one of those sticky "parental advisory" labels on the cover.

A ban would work even better to guarantee sales.

Best thing to do is ignore them and hope they'll go away.

Better yet, if parents start listening to the same tunes in front of their kids, whilst dancing badly and saying stuff like "50 Cents is SO cool", most kids will immediately be turned off from listening to him.

After all, what ostensibly rebellious kid wants to listen to the same stuff as his parents???

So, IOW, while I strongly dislike 50-Cent and, for that matter, ALL rap, I can see no point in a ban either on concerts or published music as either route will simply attract more kids to his *ahem* "music".

[Leafless]

Joe Volpe should really be the last person in Canada NOT to understand the gun culture in Toronto as IMMIGRATION Minister.

This is all part of the Liberals CARE FREE plan to make certain that all cultures except White Anglo Christians feel at home to spread violence, un-Christian and un-Canadian-U.S. ideologies lifestyles.

Now they don't UNDERSTAND what went wrong and are trying to find an excuse and point fingers like at 50 cent.

The Liberals make me puke.

[PocketRocket]

Now they don't UNDERSTAND what went wrong and are trying to find an excuse and point fingers like at 50 cent.

The Liberals make me puke.

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Oh, give me a break.

This is no different that when a few years ago the Conservative-types were trying to have Marilyn Manson brought down because some kid left a note about how Manson "inspired" him to commit suicide, and another had been listening to an Ozzy Osbourne album which had the song "Suicide Solution", and then blew himself away.

I distinctly remember listening to the Lowell Green show and hearing people rant and rave about it all, and about how all such music should be banned. In fact, I called in on that show.

Lowell hung up on me when I suggested that perhaps too much Tommy Dorsey was responsible for Hitler's rampage through Europe.

[crazymf]

Dear shoop,

Has anyone heard his name pronounced as "Fitty Cent" by a journalist? Wouldn't that be correct as it is his preferred pronunciation?

Just because he can't pronounce his own name doesn't mean that journalists should start using 'pidgin english' also. What if he had a harelip or mild retardation? Pronouncing his name the same way he does would then be seen as mockery.

Journalists need to stick to the English language (though I realize it can and does change) and not start taking 'the lazy way'...(fitty cent indeed...more of a drunken/drugged mumble than a pronounciation)

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fi fo fa fif fi fo for

Mike Tysons phone number......

[Black Dog]

Two things:

It's "Fiddy" not "Fitty".

Also, someone should tell McTeague that young black men have been shooting each other long before 50 Cent and indeed, long before rap music.

Rocket's right: hip-hop is the new metal.

[PocketRocket]

Rocket's right: hip-hop is the new metal.

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I wouldn't go that far.

At least metal had the pretense of being music.

Rap is nothing more than bad, borderline-illiterate, urban poetry set to a beat.

To top it off, the beat isn't even created by a drummer, but by a computer.

Which poses the question, if there are no musicians, is it music???

[kimmy]

Rocket's right: hip-hop is the new metal.

At least metal had the pretense of being music.

And it's also educational! After borrowing my special guy's collection of Iron Maiden cassettes from the 1980s, I found that I'd inexplicably learned about Nathaniel Hawthorne, Frank Herbert, Aldus Huxley, Alexander the Great, the Charge of the Light Brigade, the Rime of the Ancient Mariner, the Battle of Britain, and more. Imagine how surprised the bible-thumpers would be if they knew that the secret subliminal messages in the music were Fancy Book Larnin'.

But indeed, Rocket, making a big deal about "50 Cent" is just going to make him that much more popular with his target audience.

-k

[theloniusfleabag]

I'll have to echo PocketRocket's sentiments about 'censored' stuff being a draw to kids. First, I heard an interview with Paul McCartney years ago, talking about the PMRC putting warning labels on albums. Paul said

"When I was a kid, they used to put a red star beside certain movie titles in the TV guide to indicate that they might be a bit 'racy'. Those are the ones we went out of our way to watch!".

Also, Ice-T in his song "Freedom of Speech" (from the album Bodycount) had the line "Hey PMRC, you stupid f#@king a@#holes, the sticker on the record is what makes it sell gold.."

However, I do believe that this whole imbroglio is about banning the person from Canada, not the music. I would think that if this 'Fifty Cent Negro' (if you'll pardon the pun) has a criminal record, including gun-related ones, it should be quite easy for the Canadian gov't to say, "Thanks, but no thanks, your kind isn't welcome here". (and I mean jerks, not Negroes, or 'coloured people', or 'people of colour', which I find an odd classification because technically Black means the absence of colour, so 'african-americans', even if they aren't from Africa any more recently than the rest of us, should be called 'people without colour')

I think that most here would have to agree that advocating robbery and murder is somewhat different than Elvis' evil 'hip gyrations'.

[Black Dog]

I wouldn't go that far.

At least metal had the pretense of being music.

Rap is nothing more than bad, borderline-illiterate, urban poetry set to a beat.

To top it off, the beat isn't even created by a drummer, but by a computer.

Which poses the question, if there are no musicians, is it music???

I think you really need to learn the distinction between mainstream corporate "guns'n'hos" hip-hop acts like Fiddy and actual artists like The Roots, Talib Kweli, Kanye West, Mos Def, Toronto's K-Os and a host of other underground performers who constantly buck the trends and defy the sterotypes imposed by commercial rap culture (and many of whom-notably the Roots and K-Os use *gasp* real insturments). Or check out some old-school hip hop from the late '70s early '80s when the genre was just starting out and was as vital and important as punk was before it.

I think that most here would have to agree that advocating robbery and murder is somewhat different than Elvis' evil 'hip gyrations'.

Only because we are so enured to sexuality. Back then, such flagrant displays were sure to cause the downfall of civilization.

I wonder though: why all the fuss over 50 and not the record company which is pushing his image?

[Freshinit]

Rocket's right: hip-hop is the new metal.

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I wouldn't go that far.

At least metal had the pretense of being music.

Rap is nothing more than bad, borderline-illiterate, urban poetry set to a beat.

To top it off, the beat isn't even created by a drummer, but by a computer.

Which poses the question, if there are no musicians, is it music???

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How incredibly ignorant of you. Borderline illiterate? Since when did politcally minded people judge things by their cover? Maybe if you searched deeper down than MTV, you'd realise it's much more than 50 cent. There are massive underground communities. Ambitious MCs, spitting possitive freestyles, talking about life and everything in it. If anything, hip hop is the most literate of all styles. It is a genre that focuses on a message through wording, not high pitched singing that covers maybe 20 or 30 words throughout the whole song. Compare me "yellow submarine" with ANY one of "Atmosphere's" hip hop songs and come back to me and tell me what song is more thought provoking.

[tml12]

Two things:

It's "Fiddy" not "Fitty".

Also, someone should tell McTeague that young black men have been shooting each other long before 50 Cent and  indeed, long before rap music.

Rocket's right: hip-hop is the new metal.

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Completely agreed.

People can go to their local HMV equivalent and buy his CDs.

There is an underlying problem here the Liberal government is denying.