cj8 Posted May 7, 2022 Report Posted May 7, 2022 (edited) Please people tell your government to start preparing with drugs and treatments. As Vanden Bossche says. Better safe than sorry. How can we look ourselves in the mirror if he is correct and we did nothing? And it looks like he is. The vaccinated are very vulnerable as the virus mutates according to studies. His new interview starts about 1 hour in. https://rumble.com/v13mwqv-episode-266-geert-vanden-bossche-my-final-call.html Edited May 7, 2022 by cj8 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 7, 2022 Report Posted May 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, cj8 said: 1. Please people tell your government to start preparing with drugs and treatments. As Vanden Bossche says. 2. His new interview starts about 1 hour in. 1. A stranger with a fake name comes onto my favourite web board and pushes somebody I have never heard of before. First thing I do is Google and lo and behold it's another "gadfly". A veterinarian. Good thing I have basic sense. A real Canadian knowledge source gives you the low down. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche 2. LOL. I would love to have the kind of time where I wait one hour for the crackpot to arrive and steal the show. . 3 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
cj8 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Posted May 8, 2022 14 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. A stranger with a fake name comes onto my favourite web board and pushes somebody I have never heard of before. First thing I do is Google and lo and behold it's another "gadfly". A veterinarian. Good thing I have basic sense. A real Canadian knowledge source gives you the low down. https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche 2. LOL. I would love to have the kind of time where I wait one hour for the crackpot to arrive and steal the show. . That article is debunked. ? By these 50 scientists and probably many others. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867422000769 Quote
cj8 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Posted May 8, 2022 The study says that if people get infected from a new variant after the shot people still only produce the old variant antibodies. And it looks like more shots makes "immune imprinting" worse. "We find that prior vaccination with Wuhan-Hu-1-like antigens followed by infection with Alpha or Delta variants gives rise to plasma antibody responses with apparent Wuhan-Hu-1-specific imprinting manifesting as relatively decreased responses to the variant virus epitopes, compared with unvaccinated patients infected with those variant viruses. " Quote
cj8 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) Vanden Bossche links to this blog for explanation and it´s not so difficult to understand what this and the other studies mean. https://igorchudov.substack.com/p/aids-like-chronic-covid-is-taking?s=r Edited May 8, 2022 by cj8 Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 6 minutes ago, cj8 said: That article is debunked. ? By these 50 scientists and probably many others. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867422000769 I think it is your Vanden Bossche that has been debunked LOL "The urgent need for countermeasures against the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has spurred the rapid development of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) vaccines of diverse formulations. mRNA vaccines BNT162b2 (BioNTech-Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna/NIAID) have demonstrated high efficacy and safety in clinical trials for COVID-19 prevention" Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
cj8 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) 32 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I think it is your Vanden Bossche that has been debunked LOL "The urgent need for countermeasures against the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has spurred the rapid development of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) vaccines of diverse formulations. mRNA vaccines BNT162b2 (BioNTech-Pfizer) and mRNA-1273 (Moderna/NIAID) have demonstrated high efficacy and safety in clinical trials for COVID-19 prevention" It may have worked well at first. But as the studies show the problem should become obvious over time as the virus mutates. Bossche says abs induced from vaxx outcompete the better protecting abs from infection. Seems like these studies confirm this. Each shot result in less and less antibodies that gives broader protection. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.04.18.22271936v1 Edited May 8, 2022 by cj8 Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, cj8 said: It may have worked well at first. But as the studies show the problem should become obvious over time as the virus mutates. Bossche says abs induced from vaxx outcompete the better protecting abs from infection. Seems like these studies confirm this. Yeah OK. A university paper vs a quack?? Yeah OK https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
cj8 Posted May 8, 2022 Author Report Posted May 8, 2022 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: Yeah OK. A university paper vs a quack?? Yeah OK https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking-pseudoscience/doomsday-prophecy-dr-geert-vanden-bossche Look at the studies to. ? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 1 hour ago, cj8 said: That article is debunked. ? By these 50 scientists and probably many others. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867422000769 This was just published. What are the conclusions and peer comments? The original claim isn't cited. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Great American Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 16 hours ago, cj8 said: Please people tell your government to start preparing with drugs and treatments. As Vanden Bossche says. Better safe than sorry. How can we look ourselves in the mirror if he is correct and we did nothing? And it looks like he is. The vaccinated are very vulnerable as the virus mutates according to studies. His new interview starts about 1 hour in. https://rumble.com/v13mwqv-episode-266-geert-vanden-bossche-my-final-call.html I never took a shot or wore a mask or obeyed a lockdown and I am healthy as a horse. I don't bite into the fear. These idiots are just prolonging what is really needed, herd immunity. Only then will the death rate settle down to an acceptable level as it is with the Flu and other viruses. The best thing government can do is shut up and get out of peoples lives. 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 41 minutes ago, Great American said: 1. I never took a shot or wore a mask or obeyed a lockdown and I am healthy as a horse. 2. I don't bite into the fear. 3. The best thing government can do is shut up and get out of peoples lives. 1. My understanding is that a large majority in our local hospital took your approach. 2. Agreed. People need to take rational calm approaches to health, including following the science and not listening to hysterical anti government types. 3. This is proven to be wrong. See Canada's results vs American states that went towards libertarian public health. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Great American Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 Quote Agreed. People need to take rational calm approaches to health, including following the science and not listening to hysterical anti government types. The phrase "The Science" is a non sequitur. There is no single science. Science is ever changing. Why did the Left silence and squash all the doctors and scientists who disagreed with the government? You have been duped by authoritarian propaganda and junk science. Quote This is proven to be wrong. See Canada's results vs American states that went towards libertarian public health. Florida is doing great. You are all wrong. I have already concluded from your other posts that you are a willing drinker of fake news KoolAid. Thats too bad for you. 1 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted May 8, 2022 Report Posted May 8, 2022 (edited) I think natural immunity is ideal for those who can fight the virus. The problem is that we don’t always know who these people are. I know that data from Israel seemed to indicate that multiple jabs can weaken immunity. The important thing is that people are well informed and encouraged to make well-informed decisions based on their own health profiles and values. One-sized fits all health program mandates from government are damaging to our Charter and democracy. Government should procure the best preventions and treatments, inform the public about what’s available in a non-partisan way, and let people make individual choices in accordance with our Constitution. Edited May 8, 2022 by Zeitgeist Quote
cj8 Posted May 10, 2022 Author Report Posted May 10, 2022 How the injections destroy your immune system. Vanden Bossche explain this in his new paper. https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/predictions-gvb-on-evolution-c-19-pandemic Why are C-19 vaccinated people no longer able to rely on relevant innate immune cells when circulating variants become resistant to the neutralizing capacity of the vaccinal Abs?"Neutralizing anti-S Abs have strong affinity for SC-2 as they are primarily directed at immunodominant epitopes within the S-RBD. Because of their high affinity, these Abs can easily outcompete innate polyreactive IgM Abs that recognize self-like glycans on the surface of CoV. In case there is sufficient match between the immunodominant RBD epitopes and the vaccine-induced Abs, this does not pose a problem to controlling viral infection and spread. In the absence, however, of sufficient virus-neutralizing capacity of vaccine-induced Abs (due to resistance of the virus to potentially neutralizing anti-S Abs), these innate polyreactive IgM Abs can still be outcompeted by non-neutralizing, infection-enhancing anti-NTD Abs that are equally elicited by all S-based C-19 vaccines (see fig. 3).As the enhancing NTD site is relatively conserved (i.e., shared among all different SC-2 variants), the enhancing Abs will be recalled upon re-exposure with new immune escape variants and bind with disproportionally high affinity to S if the neutralizing capacity of the vaccinal Abs towards the circulating variant is low.Unless the functional capacity of the relevant innate immune cells has been sufficiently trained beforevaccination such as to produce relevant polyreactive IgM of higher affinity, the infectious andpathogenic behavior of SC-2 in vaccinees will be largely determined by their vaccine-induced enhancing Abs, especially as those will continuously be boosted by virtue of the dominant circulation of the vaccine-resistant variant." Quote
Great American Posted May 10, 2022 Report Posted May 10, 2022 Meanwhile, south of your border Internal CDC docs on the agency's false Covid vaccine claims https://sharylattkisson.com/2022/05/internal-cdc-docs-on-the-agencys-false-covid-vaccine-claims/ 1 Quote
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