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[WestCanMan]

17 minutes ago, Infidel Dog said:

Russia’s Putin Praises ‘Ideological’ Links Between Democrats, Soviet Communism

Nuff said?

Oddly enough they mention Brennan in that article, but not his ties to communism: https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/john-brennan-cia-communist-vote/index.html (LOOK I CITED CNN!!!!!!!! lol. I guess it must be fake news).

Brennan confessed that while he was a student of Poli Sci at Fordham University in 1976 he voted communist. He doesn't admit to communist party leadership, but he wasn't asked whether or not he was part of a communist organization at Fordham afaik. 

They also mention Hillary, but they don't mention her use of Russian spies to create fake intel about Trump for her 2016 election fraud. 

They never mentioned the guy who almost won the nomination, B Sanders: https://www.baltimoresun.com/opinion/op-ed/bs-ed-op-0224-jonah-goldberg-sanders-communism-socialism-20200224-3thiotftzvbmnhjw6d2g7t3ho4-story.html

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Mr. Sanders supported a Marxist-Leninist party that backed the Iranian Revolution and the hostage-taking of Americans. In 1985, he supported the effort by Daniel Ortega, the Soviet-backed Sandinista leader of Nicaragua, to suppress opposition newspapers. Until recently, Mr. Sanders was supportive of the dictatorship in Venezuela.

Sanders also honeymooned in Russia, but he's not the only high-profile Dem to have a fling with communism - DeBlasio also made pilgrimages to Nicaragua, Cuba and Russia. 

 

Breitbart missed all of that somehow. It's really odd. Putin is well aware of the Dems' tilt towards communism though. He likey likey. 

[dialamah]

2 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

President Trump is no more authoritarian than many other previous American presidents (like FDR), and is constrained by the limits of his office and the U.S. Constitution.  

Not if he can manipulate it to his ends.  The Electoral College helps with that - people without a majority of American support can be presidents.

Why can't the constitution be changed through amendments.  Hasn't it happened in the past?  I don't know what it might take to do that, but I don't think it's enough to prevent politician's from trying to exceed the power the constitution currently allows them.  

Can you point to other American presidents who undermined the media, spread misinformation daily, fired anyone and everyone who disagreed with them, set Americans against each other, invited paramilitary groups to 'stand back and stand by', called into question the integrity of your election system in the way Trump has?  Did FDR declare the next election null and void if he lost?  Did any of those presidents hint that they might not go quietly if they lost?

Just exactly which president(s) in America's past have done all of that?

[WestCanMan]

42 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Dilute the Supreme court - to what, exactly?  Not being a completely partisan conservative court, as the Republicans have now made it?  Why do you disapprove of Democrats stacking of the court, but not Republicans?    Considering that the majority of Americans consider themselves socially liberal, the appointing of judges who do not represent that majority view is certainly not what the American people want, so why are the Republicans doing it?  Why was it ok for the Republicans to refuse to let Obama name a judge for months because "the New President" should name the judge, but now it's "rush her through in mere weeks"?   Why do you support in Republicans what you decry in Democrats?  

FYI Trump had control of the Senate when those vacancies came up. It was his job to appoint judges, and he appointed judges that follow the constitution. That's what they're supposed to do. 

If the Dems want judges to rule a certain way, the correct path to follow is to create new laws via the democratic processes currently in place.

The Dems just want to unilaterally turn the SC into their own new legal system. It's an open attack on democracy. 

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3.  Show some cites - not from right-wing rags- that Biden has said he wants to shut down the country.  Show cites - not from right-wing rags - that Biden wants to 'train the citizenry to obedience".  Both those things sound like tinfoil-hat theories.

He said it on video that he will shut it down (if the science dictates or whatever). He still said it. 

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5.  If the only way that Republicans can win is to limit voters and suppress votes as much possible, should they be allowed be govern?

They're not doing that at all. That's just idiocy/lies again. 

The Dems want people to be able to vote without ID (ironically no one can vote by mail without state issued ID though....), they want mail-in ballots sent to everyone, and they want illegals to vote. Which one of those plans is not more voter-fraud-friendly than showing up with ID to vote?

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6.  Comment on Brown Shirts with Nazi Germany - Trump just said to White Supremacist groups "Stand back and Stand by".  

Trump was asked if he would condemn white supremacists and he said "sure, which ones, name them" and then he was asked to "ask the proud boys to stand down" which he promptly did. FYI there are a lot of black men and mexicans in the Proud Boys. They're not white supremacists, but don't let that stop you from spreading idiocy. 

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7.  Speaking of Nazi Germany, how much of what Trump is doing now did Hitler do prior to his taking over as dictator?  You should check that out, but since I know you won't, I'm happy to lay it out for you:

• 1 Attack the media; Hitler used terms like "Lying Press" and "Fake News", and where else have we heard that but from Trump for the past 4 years.
• 2 Degrade those that disagree with them;
• 3 Eliminate those that disagree with them (how many non-sycophants has Trump fired?  All of them, right.);
• 4 Attack minorities (Trump - Muslims & Mexicans; Hitler -Jews and Slavs);
• 5 Tight border controls/closing were promised by Hitler and Trump;
• 6 Demonizing enemies; Hitler used terms like "parasites, criminals, leftist scum", terms which Trump also likes to throw around.
• 7 Neither Hitler nor Trump were elected by majority vote;  
• 8 Hitler called into question the integrity of the election process, and tried to reduce the number of people whose vote could be counted.  Trump is currently doing both those things.

Please, look into it and then ask yourself why you support someone who is following Hitler's path so closely.

1) CNN's lies are well documented, only a complete idiot is unaware of the fact that they almost exclusively lie about every major topic known to man. They were even successfully sued by a high school kid for defamation of character, and that's by far the lowest level that a MSM member has ever stooped to in the history of the planet. Your refusal to acknowledge CNN's ultra-low integrity says a lot about you.

2) Hillary called half of America deplorable. M Obama just called half of America racist. Trump calls out individuals correctly.

3) Trump is the boss. A good boss fires people who don't do a good job. Simple.

4) Thats another huge and stupid lie. 

5) Obama and B Clinton talked about that too. Were they Nazis?

6) Can you think of a worse example of demonizing people than the Obama's narrative that "Black people are justifiably terrified of pigs"?

7) Nor Justin Trudeau. That is proof that Justin is a Nazi. Duhhhhhhhhhh. He also drinks water from paper/plastic water box thingies - he's from the future. He's a future Nazi. Thanks for proving that dialamah. 

8) The Dems are the ones who actually called into question the integrity of the election process in this isntance if you hadn't noticed.

They were also the party that started the KKK, they opposed blacks' right to vote, then their KKK terrorized black voters at the polls, and even though the Civil Rights Act was a Dem-proposed bill (by racist LBJ), more Dems voted against the Civil Rights Act than members of the GOP, both in number and by % of voters. It might be the only time in the whole history of the USA when the opposition party voted more strongly in favour of a bill than the party that proposed the bill. 

They want people to be able to vote without ID, as if that's a good idea, and they want people who are just in the area to be able to vote too. How much sense does that make? Now they want to allow the mass-mailing of ballots (to everyone with super-evil ID, are they trying to disenfranchise everyone without ID? FYI that means take away their voting rights.)

 

Please, look into some of this crap before you post it, stop telling lies because it's morally repugnant, and then ask yourself why you support CNN when they don't tell the truth about anything.

Edited October 7, 2020 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

26 minutes ago, dialamah said:

spread misinformation daily,

So much wrong with your post, I'll just destroy this one part because it's really easy.

"Spread misinformation daily" is the call to action of the Dems and CNN. The whole Russian collusion 'investigation' was a misinformation campaign which not only included lying to the public, it included lying to the FISA courts and using the FBI as a political weapon. 

You need to look into this now because eventually history will be re-written, as it always is by Nazis/Dems and other lowlife scum of that ilk, and you'll never have access to the truth. 

[bush_cheney2004]

50 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Not if he can manipulate it to his ends.  The Electoral College helps with that - people without a majority of American support can be presidents.

 

The Electoral College has been in place for over 200 years.  It is not suddenly obsolete just because Trump got elected.   In Canada, Scheer and the Conservatives got more votes than Trudeau and the Liberals.   Why the double standard ?

 

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Why can't the constitution be changed through amendments.  Hasn't it happened in the past?  I don't know what it might take to do that, but I don't think it's enough to prevent politician's from trying to exceed the power the constitution currently allows them. 

 

The U.S. has three branches of government, and several states have already passed laws that apportion electors by popular vote.   Amendments require passage by many states, and small states do not want to be "bullied" by large states.

 

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Can you point to other American presidents who undermined the media, spread misinformation daily, fired anyone and everyone who disagreed with them, set Americans against each other, invited paramilitary groups to 'stand back and stand by', called into question the integrity of your election system in the way Trump has?  Did FDR declare the next election null and void if he lost?  Did any of those presidents hint that they might not go quietly if they lost?

Just exactly which president(s) in America's past have done all of that?

 

Yes he did, and far worse because he had a "mandate" for the Great Depression and WW2.   The Congress passed an Amendment to limit presidents to a maximum of two terms because of FDR's excesses.   Andrew Jackson and Abraham Lincoln are two other examples of "authoritarian" presidents.

Donald Trump is just another U.S. president, with limited power and impact, except when it comes to driving leftists crazy.

 

 

Edited October 7, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[dialamah]

55 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

In Canada, Scheer and the Conservatives got more votes than Trudeau and the Liberals.   Why the double standard ?

I complain about that too; it's why I thought PR would be a better system - I do not defend it, and his failing that promise lost Trudeau my vote in - so no double standard here.    That's the difference between partisan people and non-partisan people.  My guy, always right, is a stupid political philosophy.  

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Yes he did, and far worse because he had a "mandate" for the Great Depression and WW2

I see.  So refusing Jews refuge and throwing Japanese-Americans in camps, while stealing their property was ok?  America can't learn to be a better and more humanitarian country through her past mistakes?   Any kind of corruption, excess, cruelty and stupidity among your leaders is acceptable, in America?   How is America different from third world countries, then?   Because they are (not yet) actually slaughtering their citizens?  How far down that road are you, personally, willing to go with Trump/GOP - or any party, if the Democrats gained power and continued down that path.

Edited October 7, 2020 by dialamah

[bush_cheney2004]

26 minutes ago, dialamah said:

I complain about that too; it's why I thought PR would be a better system - I do not defend it, and his failing that promise lost Trudeau my vote in - so no double standard here.    That's the difference between partisan people and non-partisan people.  My guy, always right, is a stupid political philosophy. 

 

It's not about you (or me)...these are the political systems that have evolved over many years.   They do not change just because we do not like one outcome.   Trump is certainly not always right, but he is the duly elected POTUS, despite what his haters may say.

 

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I see.  So refusing Jews refuge and throwing Japanese-Americans in camps, while stealing their property was ok?  America can't learn to be a better and more humanitarian country through her past mistakes?   Any kind of corruption, excess, cruelty and stupidity among your leaders is acceptable, in America?   How is America different from third world countries, then?   Because they are (not yet) actually slaughtering their citizens?  How far down that road are you, personally, willing to go with Trump/GOP - or any party, if the Democrats gained power and continued down that path.

 

Again, Canada has many examples of the same, and far more recent despicable and ongoing treatment of "aboriginals".   I am not and never have been a member of any political party, and I did not vote for Trump in 2016.  I am willing to go as far as the U.S. Constitution permits, and that means free speech (including "hate speech")....and gun rights.   All illegals should be deported...no exceptions.   Trump sings the same tunes.

America is just another country, just like Canada, warts and all.   Don't hold America or Americans to a higher standard because you will always be disappointed.   Seek true love and redemption elsewhere...America owes you nothing.

Edited October 7, 2020 by bush_cheney2004

[WestCanMan]

I think that some people here are far too polite to liars. 

By this point in time, everyone who pays enough attention to politics to be bothered posting here knows what the same old lies are, and there's no more excuse for regurgitating them here.

Calling someone out directly for being a liar might seem a bit brash for some, but honestly it's far better than enabling a culture of lying and it's still more polite.