jacee Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Goddess said: Why do the women get a "pass"? Do you really believe that none of them had any inkling that ISIS was a barbaric death machine, raping and destroying everywhere they went? Come on..... Unfortunately, like other children whose parents make horrible decisions for them, the children will suffer. That is the fault of their mothers and fathers who made the worst possible choice for them - they CHOSE to gamble with their babies' lives and they lost. You can boo-hoo and make excuses for these women all you want - but they are just as culpable as the men. They were tweeting instructions to their fellow Muslims all over the world to drive vans into crowds and kill as many of us as possible. They were fully supportive of the ISIS agenda. If you want them coming back here and moving in next door to your grandchildren, you are welcome to that opinion. But then, You would be no different than these idiot women - If you want to gamble with YOUR children and grandchildren's lives and let these female barbarians back in and allow them to continue to raise little jihadis in Canada, that is your choice. I have beautiful grandchildren who are being raised with love and respect for others and I will NOT gamble with their lives. And I am angrier than hell that Trudeau is willing to gamble our lives . Stripping citizenship from these animals is not "hysterical nonsense, other countries are doing it and we should be too. I did not say women get a "pass". You did, but you are wrong. I said the laws and the courts will decide. And that includes making decisions about stripping citizenship, which will not happen. There will be lengthy investigative and legal processes. You are freaking out about your own imaginary catastrophies, which bear no resemblance to the legal realities. Such hysterical nonsense is not useful. Edited March 18, 2019 by jacee 1 Quote
Goddess Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, jacee said: I did not say women get a "pass". You did, but you are wrong. I said the laws and the courts will decide. And that includes making decisions about stripping citizenship, which will not happen. There will be lengthy investigative and legal processes. You are freaking out about your own imaginary catastrophies, which bear no resemblance to the legal realities. Such hysterical nonsense is not useful. No, YOU separated out the women with this comment: Quote But there are many more women and children. That's what the real conversation is about. I pointed out to you that the women are just as culpable as the men. You can disagree, wring your hands and boo-hoo for those women, but I certainly do not. And saying that is not me being "hysterical" or "freaking out". I stand by my statement - the women who joined ISIS are just as culpable as the men. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Army Guy Posted March 18, 2019 Report Posted March 18, 2019 On 3/14/2019 at 10:23 PM, marcus said: Do ISIS fighters kill innocent people? Yes. Do some gang members kill innocent people? Yes. F16 pilots and those controlling drones from HQ kill innocent people? Yes. They all should receive punishment for killing innocent people. What does the law say about that Marcus....perhaps you and jacee could lay it all out for us....Canadian law and inter national law have separate laws for terrorist, separate laws for Murders, and separate laws for Military personal who are defending their countries, plus military personal are subjected to Geneva Convention , Canadian civil and military law as well ... According to the law they don't receive the same punishment, a gang member will get 25 years no parole, a convicted terrorist gets 8 around years and a 10 million dollar payout, and an F-16 pilot who drops bombs on targets designated by our government gets Nothing, but has to fight his government for pensions or medical payouts ....Your rendition of events is nothing more than your opinion, because some army girl stole your boy friend. Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
jacee Posted March 19, 2019 Report Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Goddess said: No, YOU separated out the women with this comment: I pointed out to you that the women are just as culpable as the men. You can disagree, wring your hands and boo-hoo for those women, but I certainly do not. And saying that is not me being "hysterical" or "freaking out". I stand by my statement - the women who joined ISIS are just as culpable as the men. You don't believe our laws, national security, border security, police, courts etc will do their jobs? Nobody gets a pass on that. But children must be considered first, and not separated from parents unless incarceration is warranted. Edited March 19, 2019 by jacee Quote
jacee Posted March 19, 2019 Report Posted March 19, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, Army Guy said: What does the law say about that Marcus....perhaps you and jacee could lay it all out for us....Canadian law and inter national law have separate laws for terrorist, separate laws for Murders, and separate laws for Military personal who are defending their countries, plus military personal are subjected to Geneva Convention , Canadian civil and military law as well .. Are you saying that Canada's laws and justice system can't do their job, soldier? Edited March 19, 2019 by jacee Quote
Army Guy Posted March 19, 2019 Report Posted March 19, 2019 17 hours ago, jacee said: Are you saying that Canada's laws and justice system can't do their job, soldier? Let me spell it out slowly, within our justice system terrorist, murders, and soldiers are treated differently, with different laws, with varying punishments..if gang members are convicted of murder they get 25 years or life, a Terrorist charged with murder gets 8 years and 10 mil dollar settlement, a soldier who is obeying orders gets no charges at all no settlements, sweet FA...That is according to history and our laws....meaning each is treated differently according to our justice system....which would translate into they are not considered the same crime and do no carry the same sentence...regardless of what you and Marcus think... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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