Will Duceppe Succeed Laundry

[bigdude]

Duceppe not necessarily Landry's successor

In a sovereignist repeat of the 1998 Jean Charest saga, everyone expects Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe to be swept out of the federal arena to replace the suddenly departed Bernard Landry as the head of the Parti Québécois.

That may well happen.

The timing of Laundry's resignation could not be worse for Duceppe - tough decision for him. Now will see a bit more what he is made of.

[Bakunin]

Duceppe not necessarily Landry's successor

In a sovereignist repeat of the 1998 Jean Charest saga, everyone expects Bloc Québécois leader Gilles Duceppe to be swept out of the federal arena to replace the suddenly departed Bernard Landry as the head of the Parti Québécois.

That may well happen.

The timing of Laundry's resignation could not be worse for Duceppe - tough decision for him. Now will see a bit more what he is made of.

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Im pretty much sure he will wait to see what are the candidate first to see if it worth it.

[Big Blue Machine]

Plus, Duceppe is inexperienced in provincial politics. And he says he wants to stay with the Bloc in the next federal election.

[shoe-in]

Bet the bank (but consider the source) on this: Mr. Duceppe is heading for Quebec City later this month.

shoe-in

[Guest eureka]

Duceppe's decision will show whether he is most interested in his "cause" or in Duceppe.

I suspect the latter. I don't think that any of this generation of "Sovereigntits is in it for more than ambition. The so-called idealism disappeared along with education.

[shoe-in]

Bet the bank (but consider the source) on this:  Mr. Duceppe is heading for Quebec City later this month.

shoe-in

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A very good friend of mine just called me and gave me an earful for using his words without proper credit.

My defence, blaming it on liquor, didn't impress him much, so here goes:

"Bet the bank (but consider the source) on this: Mr. Duceppe is heading for Quebec City later this month." - Don Martin

BTW - I DID bet a bundle on this latest tip of his.

[Bakunin]

Good. We need Duceppe in Ottawa for the time being to keep the pressure on.

Yes thats exactly why many ppl wants him to stay at the bloc, because he his doing a very good job and they find it risky to let the bloc with no strong leader. They learned from their mistake, remember Lucien bouchard jumping from bloc to the pq?

There is no doubt evry sovreignist like him and many federalist too but the PQ is like a wild horse, it is fast and effective but you must learn how to ride it and it can't be done without falling and working very hard.

Any chance of him moving to the PQ closer to the provincial election?

Not really, and by the way, the conference monday is in ottawa, so its a clue that he won't jump because if he would have quit the bloc to join the pq, he would prolly do the conference in quebec in front of all the local media.

So Duceppe who has never had to run any government so of course he is popular has chickened out - what a coward!

thats correct, he has never been a minister and its alot harder to be held responsible for a mistake when your the bloc leader

[I miss Reagan]

Good. We need Duceppe in Ottawa for the time being to keep the pressure on. Any chance of him moving to the PQ closer to the provincial election? I think he could solidify separation if he were heading the PQ. I can't wait for the day Quebec goes, paving the way for Alberta.

[bigdude]

Do you remember the Montreal Olympics?

Drapeau the Montreal mayor said that the Olympics could no sooner have a deficit than a man could have a baby.

Alberta separating is in the same category. Ottawa may have to put it under trustreeship for a bit, but separation. What a joke! Where do you think you would go to, BC?

So Duceppe who has never had to run any government so of course he is popular has chickened out - what a coward!

[shoe-in]

I humbly acknowledge that I've been predicting all along that there would not be an early election -- though I admit to some scary moments wondering whether I'd be eating crow before summer.

All's well that ends well.

In any case, with one success under my belt, I'm going to stick my neck out again and predict that Gilles Duceppe will not be leaving Ottawa to replace Bernard Landry as leader of the Parti Quebecois.

The conference monday is in ottawa, so its a clue that he won't jump because if he would have quit the bloc to join the pq, he would prolly do the conference in quebec in front of all the local media.

That makes sense, Bakunin, but I'll still stick with Don Martin.

Tomorow we'll find out who was right.

[Bakunin]

That makes sense, Bakunin, but I'll still stick with Don Martin.

Tomorow we'll find out who was right.

He wasn't entirely wrong, when landry left, we were all thinking that duceppe would come and many wanted him to come but after thinking twice, alot of people thought it was better for him to stay at the bloc where he his doing a very good job.

In other word, people prefer rebuild the pq from scratch with a young leader rather than patch it temporary. Many think its too much risky to leave the bloc with no strong leader if ever things turn out wrong for the pq, i guess thats what duceppe think, he his willing to sacrifice his personal ambition for the sovreignist movement.

[shoe-in]

That makes sense, Bakunin, but I'll still stick with Don Martin.

Tomorow we'll find out who was right.

He wasn't entirely wrong, when landry left, we were all thinking that duceppe would come and many wanted him to come but after thinking twice, alot of people thought it was better for him to stay at the bloc where he his doing a very good job.

In other word, people prefer rebuild the pq from scratch with a young leader rather than patch it temporary. Many think its too much risky to leave the bloc with no strong leader if ever things turn out wrong for the pq, i guess thats what duceppe think, he his willing to sacrifice his personal ambition for the sovreignist movement.

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You are most likely right.

Who am I fooling .... it is more likely a sure thing.

I just wish I had been given the opportunity to make some money off of that.

Oh well, maybe next time.

[August1991]

You are most likely right.

Who am I fooling .... it is more likely a sure thing.

I just wish I had been given the opportunity to make some money off of that.

Oh well, maybe next time.

Wow, an honest poster! FTR, I too thought Duceppe would go to Quebec City.

The latest I have heard is that many want him to stay in Ottawa and keep an eye on the federal Liberals so that what happened in 1995 is not repeated. He has also made a good reputation in ROC. As Duceppe says, he doesn't want to destroy Canada.

[Bakunin]

if you have money then bet on andre boisclair to become the next pq leader

http://boisclair.blogspot.com

[shoe-in]

Wow, an honest poster!  FTR, I too thought Duceppe would go to Quebec City.

Leo,

The difference between you and me is that I'm probably wrong as many times as you are right. Once in a blue moon.

[Fortunata]

The word is that Duceppe says he will stay where he is. Pundits are speculating that Landry will have a change of heart and rerun.

[shoe-in]

if you have money then bet on andre boisclair to become the next pq leader

http://boisclair.blogspot.com

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Thanks for the hot tip, Bakunin, but isn't it kind of rude not to translate into English what he said? For the monoglots, you know.

Took me a long while, but here it is, to the best of my ability:

Monday, June 06, 2005

What a return!

Hello with you!

I regret having neglected my blogist during my time of examinations. I succeeded however well. Next Thursday I will be in Boston to receive my diploma of control! I am particularly proud. These last weeks one be intense, examinations, work....

I return just of the Congress of the Québécois Party. Never I would have thought of living such emotions!

My first thoughts go to my friend Bernard Landry like to all those and those which testified their support to him.

I read each comment left on my blogist. Thank you for your generosity.

While waiting for the continuation of things, if you want to contribute concretely to my réfelxion, buy your chart of member of the PQ!

www.pq.org

I return to you quickly...

Andre

[Bakunin]

if you have money then bet on andre boisclair to become the next pq leader

http://boisclair.blogspot.com

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Thanks for the hot tip, Bakunin, but isn't it kind of rude not to translate into English what he said? For the monoglots, you know.

Took me a long while, but here it is, to the best of my ability:

Monday, June 06, 2005

What a return!

Hello with you!

I regret having neglected my blogist during my time of examinations. I succeeded however well. Next Thursday I will be in Boston to receive my diploma of control! I am particularly proud. These last weeks one be intense, examinations, work....

I return just of the Congress of the Québécois Party. Never I would have thought of living such emotions!

My first thoughts go to my friend Bernard Landry like to all those and those which testified their support to him.

I read each comment left on my blogist. Thank you for your generosity.

While waiting for the continuation of things, if you want to contribute concretely to my réfelxion, buy your chart of member of the PQ!

www.pq.org

I return to you quickly...

Andre

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He was a minister under the last pq government, he left in 2004 to go back to school in harvard so he made a blog while he left, he was talking about what he was doing. And stuff about environnment ( he was minister of environment and its one of his passion). in the message you translated (nice translation btw) you can see the "comments" of the vistior i think there are about 350 comments of people that want him to jump in the leadership race.

Now that the big player François legault and Gille duceppe said they wont come, he his the favorite candidate.

I heard that he could be announcing that he will jump in the leadership race thursday.

[Guest eureka]

Is the air pollution caused by the emissions of the English language around Montreal his environmental concern?

[Bakunin]

Is the air pollution caused by the emissions of the English language around Montreal his environmental concern?

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...

Arent you tired of making racist comment ?

[shoe-in]

Is the air pollution caused by the emissions of the English language around Montreal his environmental concern?

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Among other things.

[Cartman]

Arent you tired of making racist comment ?

That is a pretty dirty label to throw around so easily.

[Bakunin]

Arent you tired of making racist comment ?

That is a pretty dirty label to throw around so easily.

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With eureka, evrything always end as the sovreignist are all nazi style racist .. judging his multiple comment on how french should have been exterminated in america with the conquest... He his the racist one.

Why isnt canada part of the united states since they are so alike ? is it that canadian nationalism = racism ? or its just a choice based on rational fact that both have different opinion, different life style and culture ? Because if canada don't want to be part of the united states why do you think quebecker would want to be part of canada, specially with moron that want it as much centralized as possible ?

[Cartman]

If I recall correctly, during his "victory" speech, Mr. Parizeau claimed that around 60% of Quebec voted in favour of separation. I found this odd considering the actual vote was more like 50/50. Then, after saying that they lost due to "money and the ethnic vote", I realized that he was only counting francophones.

I suggest you take a careful look at the PQ. How can a party allow such an intolerant person to become leader? Why were people cheering when he made such hateful comments? Should Quebec ever separate, I question whether the "ethnic vote" will count.

[Bakunin]

If I recall correctly, during his "victory" speech, Mr. Parizeau claimed that around 60% of Quebec voted in favour of separation.  I found this odd considering the actual vote was more like 50/50.  Then, after saying that they lost due to "money and the ethnic vote", I realized that he was only counting francophones.

I suggest you take a careful look at the PQ.  How can a party allow such an intolerant person to become leader?  Why were people cheering when he made such hateful comments?  Should Quebec ever separate, I question whether the "ethnic vote" will count.

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Parizeau was crucified after that speech, since that he is not well seen in quebec, he was right about the money spent by the "no" camp wich was violating the laws . About ethnic vote, well people really didnt like that comment, It is true that their where major irregularity about immigrant getting their citizenship just before the referendum. it is also true that in some immirant or anglophone county the vote was very strong for the no like 98% but its their choice, you just have to blame the sovreignist from doing a bad job to convince them.

A vast majority of people didn't agree with the part of the speech like you say where he said "we" got 60% of the vote, and the way he blamed the ethnic vote when they have has much right to vote as us.

Many didn't like parizeau because he was a hard liner, thats why without bouchard jumping in the yes campain, the no would have won with a better score.

You can't blame the people to vote for him, just like people voted for jean chrétiens without knowing what he made with the sponsorship scandal.

Consider this:

Its not because your against the war in iraq that your intolerant torward american.

Its not because your against a merge between usa and canada that your intolerant torward american.

now a fact.

If your intolerant torward american their are good chance you disagree on the war on iraq and you don't want to merge with them.

On the other hand intolerant american react exaclty the same way torward intolerant canadian.

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Its the same thing going on with quebec and canada, from both side their are intolerant people, sometime they actually make it up to a good political seats like (chretien and his friend ) and (parizeau and his friend). A good thing is that quebec and canada both cleaned the table and got rid of those hard liner. (in fact the confidence vote that landry lost was partially because of the hard liner vote and the pauline marois friend wich arent hard liner but oportunists.)

But behind a movement such as federalism and sovreignism there are rational argumentation just like an argumentation behind canada not being part of america.