Black Dog Posted April 19, 2005 Report Posted April 19, 2005 The new pontiff is Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, an arch-conservative the man whose job for the past 23 years has been to protect the doctrine of the Church. The German cardinal has been widely accused of stifling dissent within the Church and has been referred to unkindly as "The Pope's Enforcer" and "God's Rottweiler". During World War 2, Ratzinger held (then mandatory)membership in the Hitler Youth movement and saw wartime service with a German army anti-aircraft unit. In his early years in office, Ratzinger moved to stamp out vestiges of liberation theology, a current of Catholic thought born in the 1960s that emphasized grass-roots organization to free people from poverty. Its association with Marxist groups and revolutionary movements appalled both John Paul II and Ratzinger. Having seen fascism in action, Ratzinger today believes that the best antidote to political totalitarianism is ecclesial totalitarianism. In other words, he believes the Catholic Church serves the cause of human freedom by restricting freedom in its internal life, thereby remaining clear about what it teaches and believes,” wrote John Allen, a journalist and biographer of Ratzinger. Quote
moderateamericain Posted April 19, 2005 Report Posted April 19, 2005 so basically this possible pop wishes for a return to the middle ages where churchs had much control over the territories(if thats what you call them back then) great that turned out real well. Quote
Big Blue Machine Posted April 20, 2005 Report Posted April 20, 2005 Finally a Nazi Pope! LOL. But seriously they made a mistake, they should have pciked a Latin American one. Ratzinger is very conservative. A more moderate would be better. Quote And as I take man's last step from the surface, for now but we believe not too far into the future. I just like to say what I believe history will record that America's challenge on today has forged man's destiny of tomorrow. And as we leave the surface of Taurus-Littrow, we leave as we came and god willing we shall return with peace and hope for all mankind. Godspeed the crew of Apollo 17. Gene Cernan, the last man on the moon, December 1972.
Slavik44 Posted April 20, 2005 Report Posted April 20, 2005 This is the catholic church who did you expect to be pope mother theresa? Not that I care to much, but I really would have prefered someone who had more then five or six years to live and had some maybe Liberal tendancies not someone who says Liberalism is an evil sect to beware of. But yeah going along with what BBM said from the little I have read Rodriguez Maradiaga would have been an interesting choice. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
theloniusfleabag Posted April 20, 2005 Report Posted April 20, 2005 Dear Slavik44, This is the catholic church who did you expect to be pope mother theresa?Unfortunately, Mother Theresa is much too dead to be Pope (besides the fact that she was a *woman*).I believe the qualifications include 'nearly dead', not 'already dead'. While I can understand the Church wanting to 'reaffirm their stand' against the changing moral values of society, such a stand is unlikely to win them many converts. I think appointing Chris Rock would have done wonders for recruitment, but he might not have been trusted to 'toe the party line' when it came to moral judgement. Quote Would the Special Olympics Committee disqualify kids born with flippers from the swimming events?
Newfie Canadian Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 As a semi interested observer, it seems as though this pope may not be around for too long. He just turned 78, and I think I remember hearing on one of the newscasts that he has some health issues. I find it interesting that the cardinals would choose a pope that may not be able to physically do the kinds of things that people now expect of a pope, like extensive travel. Quote "If you don't believe your country should come before yourself, you can better serve your country by livin' someplace else." Stompin' Tom Connors
Conservative1 Posted April 23, 2005 Report Posted April 23, 2005 I have to admit i am only marginally interesting in this issue. However it is odd that they chose a pope who is 78, and who has cited health concerns. Also there is virtually no hope of reforms in the church under this pope, as he was John Pauls right hand man. I'm sure he'll do a good job, but what is the point of appointing a pope who cannot be around for more than 5 years or so, are the cardianals afraid of change, or youth and vitality. Quote
paranoid joe Posted May 15, 2005 Report Posted May 15, 2005 yeah it seems that they should have chosen a healthier cardinal (personally i was hopeing for a latin american pope), as it is often traumatic to lots of people to see the pope die. Quote
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