OftenWrong Posted October 25, 2018 Report Posted October 25, 2018 30 minutes ago, Bonam said: The only tool of science is truth. There is no "science" or "religion" as things in themselves, apart from the mind of man. And it's man's nature to corrupt everything he touches. Quote
eyeball Posted October 25, 2018 Report Posted October 25, 2018 11 hours ago, OftenWrong said: There is no "science" or "religion" as things in themselves, apart from the mind of man. And it's man's nature to corrupt everything he touches. Every single thing? That's just silly not to mention defeatist. How do you manage to even get out of bed in the morning? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
OftenWrong Posted October 25, 2018 Report Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, eyeball said: How do you manage to even get out of bed in the morning? Because someone has to stand up and speak out against the bull-shit, coming from you people. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted October 26, 2018 Report Posted October 26, 2018 21 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Because someone has to stand up and speak out against the bull-shit, coming from you people. It'll take more than standing up and speaking out - go ask Cesar Sayoc. Apparently it was his Mom that got him up and running in the mornings. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
JamesHackerMP Posted October 27, 2018 Author Report Posted October 27, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 1:37 AM, OftenWrong said: There is no "science" or "religion" as things in themselves, apart from the mind of man. And it's man's nature to corrupt everything he touches. Have to disagree with the first sentence. The second is more accurate. Quote "We're not above nature, Mr Hacker, we're part of it. Men are animals, too!" "I know that, I've just come from the House of Commons!" [Yes, Minister]
Guest Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 1:03 AM, Bonam said: Force is the tool of religion. The only tool of science is truth. Well, evidence at least. Quote
OftenWrong Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 27 minutes ago, Slick said: Well, evidence at least. How dare you question in the slightest way the empirical rule of modern science! Quote
eyeball Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, OftenWrong said: How dare you question in the slightest way the empirical rule of modern science! You've got it completely backwards - science dares you to question it, all the time. That's the whole point. Blaming science if you don't like the answer won't make a difference. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) In either case what matters most are the processes they use to reach their conclusions, one is bat-shit crazy and the other isn't. Edited October 29, 2018 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/25/2018 at 1:37 AM, OftenWrong said: There is no "science" or "religion" as things in themselves, apart from the mind of man. And it's man's nature to corrupt everything he touches. Man can be corrupt however the science is science and if the specific experiment can be reproduced to get the same results every time, then you have FACT. Yes agendas and egos can taint science, but the science in of itself , the process is self checking and self correcting. Quote
eyeball Posted October 29, 2018 Report Posted October 29, 2018 7 minutes ago, GostHacked said: the process is self checking and self correcting. The very antithesis of religion. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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